Maybe Gtho in pipe line

[Nugget_TX5]

i don't want to see a GTHO. Its just bolt on Horsepower and stick on plastic Muscle. Its just not the same IMO. Have you ever seen the KFC ad where they put Cardboard racing gear on a Volvo. Well thats what the GTHO would resemble

[GT-P BOSS]

sorry about the specs but thats what I have herd
I might smack my source around abit

[GT-P BOSS]

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

So it's gone from seeing a covered up car to knowing the power output?

And people wonder why we take the ИИИИ every time a GTHO thread pops up.

the power output was my opinion but I did see a covered up car and who knows what FPV would do they are slippery than a greased pig in a sausage factory. :voldar02:

[xbcoupe302]

Originally Posted by parawolf

Erm... twin superchargers? what is the point of all that engineering effort when the single supercharger on the 5.4L V8 Ford GT can deliver 410kW and about 680Nm.

Besides, why put GTHO on it... it doesn't make sense these days (many threads on this).

i agree why put gtho on it its bad enuff they have taken the gt name from the real GTs

[GT-P BOSS]

just a question what kw would twin supercharges give on a 290 boss motor
because my source just told me twin.

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by GTP 869

I was told there are 5 new FPV models in the pipeline to be realeased in the near future
territory Turbo
GTHO
I don't know about any others , i have the guys FPV buisness card who told me
So GT-BOSS could be on to something

Good contradiction - you say he's told you about 5 new FPV models then you can only think of 2 cos you dont know about any others. :.

[Psycho Chicken]

lol this keeps getting better and better. Yes, FPV are going to engineer a twin supercharged 290 for a limited run when they could pretty much drop a blown US engine straight into the engine bay and make more than enough power.

BTW, my sauce just told me it goes great with sausages in bread.

[Full Noise]

There will be a GTHO. FPV will also have customer service and quality paintwork on their bumpers.

Cheers,
Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf
Former Iraqi Information Minister

[Deadman]

Originally Posted by GTP 869

I was told there are 5 new FPV models in the pipeline to be realeased in the near future
territory Turbo
GTHO
I don't know about any others , i have the guys FPV buisness card who told me
So GT-BOSS could be on to something

If there are 5 new FPV models to be released - my guess would be:

FPV Territory Turbo
FPV Focus (obviously done up version of XR5 Turbo arriving soon)
FPV GT-HO
FPV GT-HO Ute? (stretching to make the 5 now ;) )
FPV Fiesta? (if the 'XR4' version does get approval for Aus - maybe a version of this)

Back on topic - thanks for the info GT-P BOSS, any news is appreciated here by most

[ltd]

Good spot GT-P Boss, sounds like you have seen something good.

Actually, I have heard from a reliable source that the GTHO will be released, and it will be done around the time of the new VE commodore. This is going to be done to put the spotlight back on ford when Holden have a new model. Also, there is speculation of a series 2 BF coming out around that same time, with power upgrades to the XR8 and FPV cars. Again, this is being done to combat Holden when they have their new model VE, as well as the fact that Ford are adament they won't be caught napping when the VE spec 6 litre V8 goes on sale.

Before you criticise this post, think about what would make good commercial sense to ford oz, bearing in mind that Holden offered a cut price deals on their VZ series when the BF was released. That the Territory is going to be turbo charged is a no brainer, and that Ford would need an event to release it is a no brainer again. The reason why they won't confirm now I hear you ask? Well, who would buy a new Ford when a more powerful version is just around the corner?

[walkinshaw001]

I'd say the possiblity would probably be pretty good.
A mate of mine had a call from HSV on Friday saying he was allocated 1 of 50 limited run HSV Coupes that will be priced in the vacinity of $125,000, the unconfirmed rumour is that its a 7 litre 375kw job. So hopefully there will be a HO.

[ltd]

Yeah there is a lot to say for boutique cars, they are special, highly regarded and limited production ensures higher resale values. Additionally, they are sold at a whopping great price and generally have higher margins than the other cars in the company's stable. Just nobody mention that to Eunos though OK.

[ltd]

Oh, and another rumour doing the rounds is that Ford is doing the numbers to import the luxury brand Lincoln, to combat loss of sales from Holden bringing out the cadillac. The reason for reluctance is it would probably eat into the sales of fairlane and ltd (especially LTD). They cost from US$39000 for the base model to US$46000 for the top of the range model. They would most likely be assembled here though, and are powered by the SOHC 4.6 V8 that was available in the Explorer, however are likely to be mated with the new 6 speed auto rather than the current american 4 speed.

[FPV]

Theres no real point in importing lincoln, the falcons/fairlanes are of probably much higher class then there cars except they have a ford badge. I do see a BF MkII in the wings for a VE arrival.

[Bluehoon]

As i have stated before,

Hang back on the tooing and throwing until March.

Here is a clue

330

[FPV]

Is there a possibility of the GT500 being tuned to FPV standards in the wings as well? Just trying to guess what one of the other 3 cars out of FPV would be. And possibly the FPV Galaxie. GT-P BOSS's sighting is rare, we hardly ever heard of someone actually sighting a car that could be a GTHO.

[FPV]

Originally Posted by Bluehoon

As i have stated before,

Hang back on the tooing and throwing until March.

Here is a clue

330

330kw? I gotta say that 330kw's would be low for a GTHO even if it was a political correctness figure, 350kw's would be appropriate. And im guessing the FPV's this year will have a power upgrade and theres not much room to move if the GTHO had 330kws. Of course you could be talking bout the cubic inch capacity, which i think is also 330.

[ltd]

Originally Posted by FPV

Theres no real point in importing lincoln, the falcons/fairlanes are of probably much higher class then there cars except they have a ford badge. I do see a BF MkII in the wings for a VE arrival.

Nahh, believe me, the fairlanes LTD's aren't as good as the Lincoln. Plus, the LTD's are not selling as well as planned, and Caprice is starting to eat into the Hire Car market. Lincoln is a crowd favourite in the USA, and surprisingly not too dissimilar with the LTD's now. Additionally, the 300C becoming a success is crucial to Ford Oz's final decision too.

[Bluehoon]

Originally Posted by FPV

330kw? I gotta say that 330kw's would be low for a GTHO even if it was a political correctness figure, 350kw's would be appropriate. And im guessing the FPV's this year will have a power upgrade and theres not much room to move if the GTHO had 330kws. Of course you could be talking bout the cubic inch capacity, which i think is also 330.

Keep in mind a thing called responsibility......

GT-HO phase 4 wasn't allowed to be registered for a reason.......... :

[FPV]

Originally Posted by ltd

Nahh, believe me, the fairlanes LTD's aren't as good as the Lincoln. Plus, the LTD's are not selling as well as planned, and Caprice is starting to eat into the Hire Car market. Lincoln is a crowd favourite in the USA, and surprisingly not too dissimilar with the LTD's now. Additionally, the 300C becoming a success is crucial to Ford Oz's final decision too.

Well if im right, the Town car is still selling and that still has a live axle, and is quite dated. However there was a concept at the detroit motor show that was actually quite good looking and had quite a bit of technology. However if Cadillac was to go against lincoln in Australia, i think the cadillac would win, maybe not in the limo service probably. Anyway the FPV Galaxie would give the Fairlane/LTD range a much needed image boost, just as the GTHO would have the halo effect on the falcon range.

[Sourbastard]

They can label any ford with GTHO they want, if it isnt homologated, its not a HO.

[Paxton]

From what I remember of the Town Car, it was column Shift Auto. If there is one thing about us Aussies, its our love of the standard T-Bar/SSS auto, on the floor, not on the steering column. That has to be the first thing they change about the Town Car.

Secondly, if its Australian assembled, why don't they put the 3v V8 in it. We have the capacity, and it is going infront of the ZF 6 Speed.

I agree about the Galaxie, however if FPV get their hands on a Town Car, and put in a 290 Engine, we have a sleeper that is like a Fairlane (not in Technology, but you get the picture). Will FPV do it? NO.

[ESP 81]

Originally Posted by b2tf

Good contradiction - you say he's told you about 5 new FPV models then you can only think of 2 cos you dont know about any others. :.

HE SAID THERE WERE 5 HE ONLY TOLD ME ABOUT THOSE 2 ,HE IS A CUSTOMER OF MINE I DON'T WANT TO BREAK HIS BALLS, SLOWLY I WILL TRY TO GET MORE INFO .
NO NEED FOR THE WEIRDO TAG

[parawolf]

Originally Posted by sourbastard

They can label any ford with GTHO they want, if it isnt homologated, its not a HO.

spot on... no other questions, no other doubts, elvis has left the building

[Dave_au]

Originally Posted by ltd

Oh, and another rumour doing the rounds is that Ford is doing the numbers to import the luxury brand Lincoln, to combat loss of sales from Holden bringing out the cadillac.

Ford got too burnt with the Taraus mustang, explorer and lightly toasted with f250, plus a Lincoln would cannibalise the Fairlane sales.

Talk of Holden importing Caddys has been going on for about the last 3 years, it's probably just the pet dream of Mooneys. Yet again, these would cannibalise the already partially acceptable stateman sales, and trying to go against the I250, 3 series or the c class in the mid sizers would be commiting Hara Kiri.

Here is a clue

330

Haha, a Mitsubishi 380 with FPV badges and a 3.3L Mivec.
[quote]

Originally Posted by FPV

330kw? I gotta say that 330kw's would be low for a GTHO even if it was a political correctness figure, 350kw's would be appropriate. And im guessing the FPV's this year will have a power upgrade and theres not much room to move if the GTHO had 330kws.

Although in reality, FPV can't get too stupid with power outputs - can you imagine what sort of warranty provision would be required - especially if they are five year - if they went beyond the drivetrains tollerances.

[Lukeyson]

Originally Posted by GT-P BOSS

just a question what kw would twin supercharges give on a 290 boss motor
because my source just told me twin.

depending on boost........ 500kw+??? easily achievabl, but it would produce some killer torque that no Ford trans or driveline would hold as a production car, but not feasable IMO ie: space under the bonnet for 2 S/C , your source may be thinking that the twin turbo kit available for the boss will be used which is alot more space efficient

[gtfpv]

anyone considered the car may be the next model .the bf is going to be one of the shortist lived models in fords history . the next model comes out next year.

[JPFS1]

the next model is not next year. They are still in clay, no working mules... yet... If there is a BF2, then yes, possibly that, but not the all new falc.

[Abacus]

Originally Posted by ltd

Oh, and another rumour doing the rounds is that Ford is doing the numbers to import the luxury brand Lincoln, to combat loss of sales from Holden bringing out the cadillac.

Yuck. What Lincoln. A Cown Vic? Decade old design and 4.6? All the rest are bum draggers.

[ltd]

Originally Posted by FPV

Well if im right, the Town car is still selling and that still has a live axle, and is quite dated. However there was a concept at the detroit motor show that was actually quite good looking and had quite a bit of technology. However if Cadillac was to go against lincoln in Australia, i think the cadillac would win, maybe not in the limo service probably. Anyway the FPV Galaxie would give the Fairlane/LTD range a much needed image boost, just as the GTHO would have the halo effect on the falcon range.

Nah, it's not live axle anymore. You're quite right though they did hang on to the live axle for quite a while, but not anymore. For the limo industry it has several huge bonuses, like its extra length, extraordinary fuel economy and particularly plush rear suspension. It also has various applications such as the ballistics version made out of kevlar (no I'm not sh1tting you), as well as the fact that a local version would probably come with the 3V 5.4 and ZF 6 speed (There is more than enough room).

Problem for Ford is, the LTD hasn't been able to keep on terms with the Caprice since the WH came out, and Ford has been continually outsold in this model ever since. (The AU2/3 LTD of which I have 3 sold only 36 cars)
As for the lincolns popularity, well, it has won a couple of the car of the year crowns, and is a well distinguished luxury brand. In the USA, the Cadillac equivalent costs alot more, and to be brutally honest does not have the same appeal as the Holden. Also, Holden has tipped them to be in the 90-100K area as well, pricing them out of the market. According to a feasibility study done by Ford, the Lincolns could be on sale for 70K plus, around the cost of the LTD.

Will it eat into Fairlane sales? I don't think so, a luxury car 15K less will always have a solid place in the market, and Fairlane has been fighting back against the statesman.

Why bother? Well, Ford have been receiving pressure from various sections of the community for the town car (They have over 45 requests and firm orders for over 100 if available for the vehicle from Hire car companies), and quite frankly Ford have lost sales to car companies like Mercedes Benz and BMW in the Hire Car industry. Analysis has shown that the town cars as limo's are extravagant enough to bring back sales from the germans in this area. Also, if LTD doesn't find a way to significantly differentiate itself from the donor fairlane (Our BA's are basically fairlanes with a V8 and GPS); like the DL did and the AU series did, it risks further plummeting sales, reducing any potential development cost for the newer model.

What historically has served Ford well for sales was when the LTD had its own unique shape like in 1976. The lincoln would slot into that space nicely.