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Old 19-05-2005, 02:44 PM   #31
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to be honest i think i actually change gears faster in a manual than what a factory falcon auto does.. they tend to be kind of slow/smooth changing stock. and with the manualised autos i still think you can change just as quick with a normal manual transmission.

(let go of accelerator, clutch in, move gear selector, clutch out, accelerate) ... its more like (start changing gear, clutch in while letting off acelerator a little, put into gear, clutch out, accelerate).. it all sort of happens at the same time basically, very quickly.
You can't shift as fast as a manulised auto with a H-pattern manual. All the auto driver does is push (or pull, if its reverse pattern) the shifter into the next slot.

The only faster shifting transmissions are sequential manual's or "manu-matics" such as BMW's SMG or VW's DSG.. Ferrari's F1 gearbox, Lamborghini's E-Gear etc etc.
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Old 19-05-2005, 02:58 PM   #32
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to be honest i think i actually change gears faster in a manual than what a factory falcon auto does.. they tend to be kind of slow/smooth changing stock. and with the manualised autos i still think you can change just as quick with a normal manual transmission.
You are probably right as the shifting (esp in older falcons) isn't that quick, also the shift points may not be where you want. There are upgrades in the way of replacing shifting solenoids that can combat this.
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Old 19-05-2005, 03:01 PM   #33
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When you want to overtake someone for example you just drop the gear and rape someone. In an auto you put the foot down and hope for the best.
My BA tiptronic says otherwise :the_finge

Also keep in mind those people with shift kits. How much will a shift kit set you back? Mine = $11.50

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Old 19-05-2005, 03:24 PM   #34
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IMO, you cant compare a stock auto box ie, in your Mums Commie to that used in drag racing. As has been said, stock auto boxes are set up to deal with normal driving conditions, everyday, getting good fuel economy, and nice soft shifts so that you dont notice it.

A racing auto box is a hell of a lot different, fuel economy doesnt factor into it, the harder (read: shorter) the shift the better, it will be geared shorter to get you off the line nice and quick, and the shift points are going to be tuned to where you engine makes it power.

I can throw my auto Cortina back into 2nd when cruising around, and like you said it goes no where. But do it in a box thats designed to race, and all you'll be doing is holding on.
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Old 19-05-2005, 03:57 PM   #35
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IMO, you cant compare a stock auto box ie, in your Mums Commie to that used in drag racing. As has been said, stock auto boxes are set up to deal with normal driving conditions, everyday, getting good fuel economy, and nice soft shifts so that you dont notice it.

A racing auto box is a hell of a lot different, fuel economy doesnt factor into it, the harder (read: shorter) the shift the better, it will be geared shorter to get you off the line nice and quick, and the shift points are going to be tuned to where you engine makes it power.

I can throw my auto Cortina back into 2nd when cruising around, and like you said it goes no where. But do it in a box thats designed to race, and all you'll be doing is holding on.
But dont a lot of people use their stock autos for drags as they are everday cars aswell. Im getting it now. Been a learning time for me lol
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Old 19-05-2005, 04:03 PM   #36
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Yes, and ill be one of them, simply because it decreases the chance of screwing your shifts up, and once stalled up i belive it will give me a lot more consitant starts. Rather than a clutch where your starts can be changed by the amount of time you choose to use when letting it out.

IMO, Auto's for drags, Manuals for circuits.
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Yes, and ill be one of them, simply because it decreases the chance of screwing your shifts up, and once stalled up i belive it will give me a lot more consitant starts. Rather than a clutch where your starts can be changed by the amount of time you choose to use when letting it out.

IMO, Auto's for drags, Manuals for circuits.
Yeah seems to me now thats the way it goes. I reckon when i get my next car that id be doin circuits rather than drags but dont know yet as i aint got the car.
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