Bad press for Toyota and Lexus........something different

[MoreHPformyXR6]

As the article in post one is a US article & the toyota models they have over there often vary from the Toyota's here I see no relivance for Aussie motorists. Keep it real.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Ford_Boy

ferrari is italian and look at the quality of its cars...what asian manufacturer could boast as being better built and of better quality?

You would would want to hope so for the hundreds of thousands of dollars they cost!

[nitroman]

Italian machines have always been a blast to drive or ride. Great handling, horsepower and style far superior to the aisan manufacturers. But build quality? Nah I don't think so. They leak oil (through metal!) and are expensive and tricky to fix and obtain parts for. I was reading an old 'wheels' mag about the Fiats when they were first fitted with emission controls and ran like a bucket of krap. The journo asked the fiat rep "So how will you adress this problem?" He anwered" Our buyers will write to their government and tell them how stupid these laws are and the problem will be fixed for us!"
I think if you buy Italian you have to be an enthusiast! (still much better than being a bland jap car driving cardigan wearer!)

[killer_taxi]

Originally Posted by Ford_Boy

ferrari is italian and look at the quality of its cars...what asian manufacturer could boast as being better built and of better quality?

No Asian manufacturer could boast about building better quality cars then Ferrari, because there are no Asian manufacturers in the same league. Spending $600,000 on a Ferrari, you'd want it to be pretty special and have the quality to match its price tag. It's silly to compare Ferrari to companies such as Subaru and Honda who don't have cars that are more expensive then $80,000. Since you originally compared Europe to Japan, I don’t think your comment is fair at all.

[XR Martin]

Heres the list of rear impact protection of the US Toyota's models. Cars that a relevent to Australia are the Highlander (Kluger) Corolla, Camry, RAV4, Prius, Tacoma (Hilux) and all of the Lexus models

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_res...ts.aspx?toyota

And Lexus

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_res...nts.aspx?lexus


Ford in Comparison fair alot better.

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_res...ints.aspx?ford

[Slow Ute]

i bought a new hilux 4 x 2 and it has a 4 star rating in australia. which im pretty happy about. alot of other comercials dont have anywhere near the same crash rating.

i would hate to think what the old hiluxs rating were, probably b safer driving a go kart

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by Slow Ute

i bought a new hilux 4 x 2 and it has a 4 star rating in australia. which im pretty happy about. alot of other comercials dont have anywhere near the same crash rating.

i would hate to think what the old hiluxs rating were, probably b safer driving a go kart

SlowUte see if you can find the Hilux's rollover rating via the US NHTSA. I'm not sure if its sold in the US but its bound to be worse than the 4runner: http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...02/139171.html. Not known as the Rollux for nothing. You'd probably be on your roof before you had a chance to have a crash!

Or to put it a kinder way (for you, not the other driver), make use of the good crash rating in preference to taking evasive action.

[Ford_Boy]

so there isnt 1 asian manufacturer that is in the same price range as ferrari? im pretty sure i read an article about a new asian super car. it was hell fast but they said doesnt compete with ferrari, lambo, or maserati for quality. maybe i read wrong but can anyone think of the car i was talking about?

[Slow Ute]

Originally Posted by new2ford

SlowUte see if you can find the Hilux's rollover rating via the US NHTSA. I'm not sure if its sold in the US but its bound to be worse than the 4runner: http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...02/139171.html. Not known as the Rollux for nothing. You'd probably be on your roof before you had a chance to have a crash!

Or to put it a kinder way (for you, not the other driver), make use of the good crash rating in preference to taking evasive action.

that dont surprise me. i have driven a 4x4 and they are pretty high. most 4x4 can b unstable if ur not carful, thats why im glad i got a 2wd one.
hilux in aus is asian bassed model the yanks get their own version.

[XR Martin]

The NSX was regarded as better all round car than Euro supercars of the time, and certainly more reliable. You could be confident in using it as daily driver doing 500kms+ a week without a worry in the World.

I dont know where this talk of Ferrari quality came from, certainly when they start getting kms and a few years on them they can start emptying the bank account of the unfortunate owner. Lamborghinis are pretty **** poor also.
The reason you dont hear of many problems with them is because there isnt the volume out there and they simply never rack up the kms. Very few would see near 100k kms even after 20years.

[monaroCountry]

Death to Toyota.....even Jeremy Clarkson thinks its garbage and unsafe.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MY3z...elated&search=

[monaroCountry]

The NSX was regarded as better all round car than Euro supercars of the time, and certainly more reliable. You could be confident in using it as daily driver doing 500kms+ a week without a worry in the World.

WSent past an NSX the other night, thought it was an accord with a wierd back..............its a wannabe supercar that probably has far less power than many family cars nowdays.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

WSent past an NSX the other night, thought it was an accord with a wierd back..............its a wannabe supercar that probably has far less power than many family cars nowdays.

Yet it would spank the shit out of most cars here.

[s2_hyundai_s2]

lolzor
fords -_=
jap cars will always be superior in effeciency,
how efficient is it for a single person to be running a huge fuel guzzling family car?
in my oppinion, fords are family cars. built for the average aussie family who need a big car to transport them and cater for their needs

100% support for Jap cars

doing up fords makes me rofl,

[MITCHAY]

LMFAO a Hyundai is Korean!

[s2_hyundai_s2]

I know that
but I am running a jap engine and running gear
besterest sleeper in the world

[MITCHAY]

Yeah and Michael Jackson changed the colour of his skin, yet he still aint white!

[s2_hyundai_s2]

rofl, is there something bad about being white ? :P
ha, in the end it is still excel, I think is your point
I am going for fastest excel/accent in australia,
but already that is hard right now, fastest one does 9.4 something I think

damn I luv my car

cheers

[MITCHAY]

No my point was just because your car has a Jap engine doesn't make it Japanese!

[s2_hyundai_s2]

rofl, my car is pretty much a jap car in the shel of a korean,
kind of like a japanese person wearing korean clothing?

still an asian car though

[GTjake]

Originally Posted by s2_hyundai_s2

lolzor
fords -_=
jap cars will always be superior in effeciency,
how efficient is it for a single person to be running a huge fuel guzzling family car?
in my oppinion, fords are family cars. built for the average aussie family who need a big car to transport them and cater for their needs

100% support for Jap cars

doing up fords makes me rofl,

Maybe so. Pob'ly not.
Have you tried towing a tandem trailer or caravan or boat with your rice mobile?
What about fitting in luggage? BTW your handbag doesnt count Mr Ive-got-jap-running-gear.

PS What Jap running gear? Since when did Japaneses automakers make drivetrains for Hyandais?

Silly silly little boy you are.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by monaroCountry

WSent past an NSX the other night, thought it was an accord with a wierd back..............its a wannabe supercar that probably has far less power than many family cars nowdays.

They only have 276hp, but its probably underrated, actually it must be underrated since they are as quick as a Ferrari 355, which has 380hp.
They have run as quick as 12.8 over the 1/4mile.

[XR Martin]

A Hyundai owner talking crap on Fords, theres a new one. What the hell has Hyundai ever made that was interesting or even good looking for that matter?
Only car worth a mention is the current model Tiburon, but its still wrong wheel drive.

[XFshep]

Originally Posted by s2_hyundai_s2

rofl, my car is pretty much a jap car in the shel of a korean,
kind of like a japanese person wearing korean clothing?

still an asian car though

around here people actually care what their cars look like.

[MITCHAY]

He's running a Mitsubishi 4g63t as I understand it.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

He's running a Mitsubishi 4g63t as I understand it.

Going by his other post, it isnt running yet :

[MITCHAY]

So that would be fried rice then :

[s2_hyundai_s2]

rofl,
my car is running, but I want to get rid of the afm assembly that i have
i dun intend to use my car for towing caravos or trailers or fitting in luggage
that is the job for family car

I take back about doing up fords making me rofl, well, I put it as ricing up fords makes me rofl

rice aint that great ayes XD can look nice though

well, I dun really like korean cars in particular, just that I got the car for free, and I had the spare bits already due to me already having a project mitsu starion.
i just combined things together and well. it is a good sleeper

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

They only have 276hp, but its probably underrated, actually it must be underrated since they are as quick as a Ferrari 355, which has 380hp.
They have run as quick as 12.8 over the 1/4mile.

No, the normal NSX would be overjoyed with a 13.5. If that.

The 12.8 was the NSX Type-S Zero. A low production numbers, special thing. Not that special.

The Type-S Zero is the only one that's as fast as a 355, the rest don't stand a hope in hell.

I find it a joke that people call the NSX "Japan's only supercar," which the GT-R Skyline absolutley destroyed them in every possible aspect of performance.

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

The NSX was regarded as better all round car than Euro supercars of the time, and certainly more reliable. You could be confident in using it as daily driver doing 500kms+ a week without a worry in the World.

That's a steep claim. Both on reliability and superiority.

NSX was released what, 1990?

1990 Porsche 911 Turbo > 1990 Honda NSX. Period.

The Ferrari F348tb and NSX were close at the time, but that was put behind when the F348 GTB came out in 1993 and stayed that way, the Ferrari product got faster and faster, while the NSX stayed slow.