Anyone tried putting an LS engine in AU? - Page 2

burnz · 15-10-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by redauxr8

Has anyone ever considered or tried putting an LS motor in an AU?

I know its blasphemy to most people, but it wouldn't be to bad an idea....

Any thoughts?

well their will be a lot of cost, wireing loom, bell housing (see Dellows)
cost of engine and displacement.
LS1 goes to 431 cid, all other go's to 511 cid.
or stay standard.

the only real benefit i can see in this is "lighter" over the front axle.
is it worth it ??

**Peuty** · 15-10-2009, 06:38 PM

Holy hell. frd906, what is your problem? I'd love to see an LSx motor in an AU. It would go well, sound GREAT and be something very different.

And your uncles BA, the engine in that is a little different to the one in an AU, so comparing them is irrelevant.

au11futura · 15-10-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by burnz

well their will be a lot of cost, wireing loom, bell housing (see Dellows)
cost of engine and displacement.
LS1 goes to 431 cid, all other go's to 511 cid.
or stay standard.

the only real benefit i can see in this is "lighter" over the front axle.
is it worth it ??

agreed!!!!

redauxr8 · 15-10-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by frd906

not really mate at least it aint holden S@#t

I bet u must get real mad when the VN commies smoke u at the lights... Don't worry, id be acting like u too if that happened to me evry day....

frd906 · 15-10-2009, 06:40 PM

lol vn commy pfft i them off same with the sv6s

au11futura · 15-10-2009, 06:41 PM

Ok Guys Settle Down Dont Make Mods Mad!!

Dauphin · 15-10-2009, 06:43 PM

Please calm down and go back on topic.

frd906, you are not saying much to back up your opinion. Please spend some time to elaborate in your posts instead of writing useless comments every few minutes.

You're just attracting unwelcome attention otherwise.

frd906 · 15-10-2009, 06:43 PM

but the cost of doing a ls1 conversion would go through the roof then just rebuilding the engine

question, where would you use this power, i guessing on the track, quartermile or dynos

then you would have to get it mod plated, suit ford emssion laws or wateva etc

and the time and money wasted you can get you a simple rebuild with a blower

POELWYK · 15-10-2009, 06:44 PM

i to be honnest would not do it i dont see the point you prob have a better chance to replaceing it and slaping a BA XR8 motor into it or spend the cash on some Work or s/c it

Frd906 you have to settle down a bit the mods will Ban you and you dont what that and close this thread

redauxr8 · 15-10-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Peuty

Holy hell. frd906, what is your problem? I'd love to see an LSx motor in an AU. It would go well, sound GREAT and be something very different.

And your uncles BA, the engine in that is a little different to the one in an AU, so comparing them is irrelevant.

Agreed, but unfortunately I dont think we will ever see it happen when we have support like frd906... Thanks everyone else for your positive and genuine thoughts...

**Peuty** · 15-10-2009, 06:46 PM

I don't get people who say "oh but it would just be cheaper if...", if the OP wanted to build a stroker, then that's what the thread would be about.

Sometimes it's not about doing things cheaply.

By your logic, if CAT600 wanted a blown modular motor, then he should have bought a GT500 Mustang.

BIGJB · 15-10-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by POELWYK

i to be honnest would not do it i dont see the point you prob have a better chance to replaceing it and slaping a BA XR8 motor into it

I have been thinking of doing this myself lately.
I love the I6 motors and like many others have been playing with the idea
of a Raptor but then I think 5.4 with a super charger....

: :evil3: :evil3:
To many choices.

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POELWYK · 15-10-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 99GHIA

I have been thinking of doing this myself lately.
I love the I6 motors and like many others have been playing with the idea
of a Raptor but then I think 5.4 with a super charger....

: :evil3: :evil3:
To many choices.

:

5.4 with a super charger :sm_drool: sounds so good to me :sm_drool:

redauxr8 · 15-10-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by POELWYK

i to be honnest would not do it i dont see the point you prob have a better chance to replaceing it and slaping a BA XR8 motor into it or spend the cash on some Work or s/c it

Frd906 you have to settle down a bit the mods will Ban you and you dont what that and close this thread

Have considered a Boss conversion, but a motor like that in my AU and id be replacing my front tyres more than my rears...

and Frd906, a "simple" stroker rebuild can easily cost up to 20k with new heads,cam manifold,etc and for what 350kws at the fly? plus 12k for a kenne belle setup... This is why i have been toying with different ideas....

frd906 · 15-10-2009, 06:50 PM

redauxr8, have fun

blownv8au · 15-10-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Peuty

Holy hell. frd906, what is your problem? I'd love to see an LSx motor in an AU. It would go well, sound GREAT and be something very different.

And your uncles BA, the engine in that is a little different to the one in an AU, so comparing them is irrelevant.

I think he ment you could throw in the boss instead cause its a different motor like the ls and is a good option. I an very surprised at peoples reactions this is a ford forum why can't we be unhappy about the idea of a gmh product in a ford.

au11futura · 15-10-2009, 06:52 PM

at the end of the day when you start mods for great power you spend more money and at the end off it you'll be over budget and deff run into unwelcome problems, which always means more money.

but like i said if you have the money it's different and would be interesting if someone did do it.

POELWYK · 15-10-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by redauxr8

Have considered a Boss conversion, but a motor like that in my AU and id be replacing my front tyres more than my rears...

and Frd906, a "simple" stroker rebuild can easily cost up to 20k with new heads,cam manifold,etc and for what 350kws at the fly? plus 12k for a kenne belle setup... This is why i have been toying with different ideas....

yeah but its another op u can work with and to your tyers there sould be a fix for that camber caster kits new arms all sorts of stuff

**DJM83** · 15-10-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by frd906

but the cost of doing a ls1 conversion would go through the roof then just rebuilding the engine

question, where would you use this power, i guessing on the track, quartermile or dynos
then you would have to get it mod plated, suit ford emssion laws or wateva etc

and the time and money wasted you can get you a simple rebuild with a blower

So what about all the FORD powered cars that have 4/5 or even 600HP. Would you complain about them as to where they would use their power?
That might be your choice to just build a stroker and probably mine to but an LS engine in an AU is something id like to see aswell but not something me personally would do. But if everyone had the same taste the world would be a boring place.
I disagree with T series kits on non T series cars aswell, but i dont go into everyones AU build thread that has a T series kitted car and say its a waste of time.

redauxr8 · 15-10-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by POELWYK

yeah but its another op u can work with and to your tyers there sould be a fix for that camber caster kits new arms all sorts of stuff

Yeh but i mean, BA XR8s have poor handling as it is and the car was made for that engine... I dont think and au would be able to take a corner properly with a boss 260 haha... But.. where theres a will theres a way...

POELWYK · 15-10-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

I disagree with T series kits on non T series cars aswell, but i dont go into everyones AU build thread that has a T series kitted car and say its a waste of time.

funny enuf i was going to do the Ts kit but changed my mind now rather spend the cash go FARST parts

POELWYK · 15-10-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by redauxr8

Yeh but i mean, BA XR8s have poor handling as it is and the car was made for that engine... I dont think and au would be able to take a corner properly with a boss 260 haha... But.. where theres a will theres a way...

true but thay handle better then the Trusty old au maybee FG stuff might be a better way to go

au11futura · 15-10-2009, 07:02 PM

mate you have realy opened a huge can of worms here this thread exploded so fast with replie's normaly were hanging to see replies in threads we write. lol

at the end of the day i bet garry myers mates laghed when he said hes putting a hemmi in his mussie.

burnz · 15-10-2009, 07:03 PM

woud a boss fit under the bonnet of an AU??

i can serously see the benafit of fitting a lighter motor.
but if you just want more grunt then i'd be looking at a low blow raptor.
for around 5 grand i think.

au11futura · 15-10-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by burnz

woud a boss fit under the bonnet of an AU??

i can serously see the benafit of fitting a lighter motor.
but if you just want more grunt then i'd be looking at a low blow raptor.
for around 5 grand i think.

with money anything fits everywere.

SVD · 15-10-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by frd906

wouldnt stir that up but a holden engine, make me wanna chuck,

my uncle ran a 12.84 down quarter mile in his 05 ba xr8 ute , with exhuast setup and flash tuner, 5 spd manual, lowerd with 18 inch mags, the paint which changes in different angles,

not that hard to get a decent time

i know its off topic, but WTF does paint that changes have to do with power/speed/ quarter mile time???

on topic.... alot of you guys have some serious problems about a small thing, if you want an LS powered AU do it! i personally think it'd be kinda cool, me personally i want an RB30DETT powered EFII i dont give a flip what others would think if it was my money...
why not research a bit more engine sizing and what not and see if would actually fit and not foul anything before contemplating anything else.

POELWYK · 15-10-2009, 07:05 PM

yeah it sould fit the bonnet itself my need to be changed but the Bay is the same size as the ba i think.....

T3man · 15-10-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by redauxr8

yeh i know haha.... i mean i love my Windsors, but its frustating having a block that can only handle 450-500hp stock when u have big plans and a smaller budget..... also, it gets to me that a head and cam package will bring a VX SS to 300+kws (with exhaust,cai,tune) and the same on mine will barely hit the 300kw mark.....

My mates VX SS has all the bolt ons and a bigger cam, and it absolutely flies.... My AU XR8 has all the bolt ons and a bigger cam and goes good, but no way near as good as the VX..... Still the reason i bought my AU XR is cos i couldnt bring myself to buy a holden

so no way am i gonna sell my beast to get one, but then the subject of strokering and crate motors came up.... I saw an LS2 and thought

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what if!

"Only 500HP stock"? So what have you done to get that?

"Big plans and a smaller budget"? Sorry, but you have to get real. You don't get anything for nothing.

"Strokering and crate motors"? Funny word "strokering" ... you actually sound a bit like a Holden bogan and maybe you are one person who could actually get away with a crate LS engine in your XR8. At least your Holden mates will still talk to you.

Now seriously ... the crate motors are not that good. They have nowhere near the longevity or reliability of the little Windsor. Your 5.0 litre, built up properly, will put out a reliable 300kW all day every day and will continue to do it for at least 500,000 km years if you look after it properly. The LS engine WILL NOT. And if you want more you can get easy reliable 350kW with a stroker kit - all it takes is about 20 big ones.

Yes, the LX might seem to "fly" compared to your XR8 but you must realise that it only does it in a straight line and only because it is about 250kg lighter. Start throwing some corners and braking into the mix and the XR8 will drive away from the LX regardless of the weight issue. Point to point on aussie roads I know which I'd rather be driving.

And don't let me start on the "crash test" - an LX will be turned to sardine can standard recyclable material with even a fairly minor shunt. I have been unfortunate enough to have been in two quite serious collisions in AUs and I know where I'd rather be sitting in a worse case event.

**DJM83** · 15-10-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by POELWYK

true but thay handle better then the Trusty old au maybee FG stuff might be a better way to go

Its been well documented that the AU IRS is a better setup then the BA so that arguement is null and void. And also being lighter over the front wheels in the AU too.

falzoony · 15-10-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by redauxr8

Has anyone ever considered or tried putting an LS motor in an AU?

I know its blasphemy to most people, but it wouldn't be to bad an idea....

Any thoughts?