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https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...s-been-slashed and the ATO is cracking down on small business who has been abusing the system https://www.9news.com.au/national/at...d-a6a139d8216d Nothing new here to me - you'd be silly if you didn't look to reduce tax's being your paying so much in other parts of your business that eat into profits. Works both ways. If it not this was another hole another decade, what goes around comes around. Worry about corporates more than small business fellas.
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Wouldn't know, just keep seeing them everywhere around here.
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I see it there every day I go to catch a bus nearby. That car has or looks as if it’s never been off road and is just used as a commuter vehicle. There would no doubt be a raft of tax benefits associated with this vehicle. There’s no doubt a different more fuel efficient lower cost could be a one person commuter vehicle but the dual cab seemingly attracts more tax benefits Nuts |
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Thanks Fordman, had to google it. Yep that's it, isn't that a popular sedan that Aussies don't want ??
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heritagestonemason.com/Fordlouisvillerestoration In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come...... D. Diderot 1752
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Actually, the same thing has happened in China, North America and Europe It seems that a lot of sedan buyers have either exited the market or are now buying Utes or SUVs. Less and less car sales each year is more a sign that buyers are embracing the higher seat position and who can blame them. |
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Even the Y looks like a bloated sedan.
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heritagestonemason.com/Fordlouisvillerestoration In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come...... D. Diderot 1752
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Nah, let the ATO sort them out. Then we'll see how many are really business vehicles and how many legit ABNs. You do realise ATO can do two things at once ![]()
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I found somewhat of an automotive goodie this month. Instead of paying the rip for new Tojo hybrid SUVs that are in stock, you can have the hybrid with the wagon and pay less as a whole heap of near-new Jap imports are now approved: https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...22589752/?Cr=7 https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...16098264/?Cr=3 You can even get AWD versions with that dubious electric motor in the back that doesn't really engage when you launch on snow or ice (also on the SUVs lol), but it's the thought that counts...
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So, how many of those who have long pined for a Territory replacement are going to buy the Mazda now? https://www.mazda.com.au/cars/cx-60/ https://www.mazda.com.au/cars/cx-90/
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I'll admit the dual cabs might not be the top selling but its my opinion they would still sell in better numbers than what they've replaced.
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Its obviously so wide spread that the ATO has finally decided to cotton on to the scam. |
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Govt incentives is a different conversation.
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If they cop LCT and start paying taxes on them, and the price further increases, do you think they'll go the Thailand Special, or are they going to move to SUVs? Or even better still, fuel efficiency standards get introduced, or the government does what China does and increases registration costs on cars with internal combustion engines and makes it free for EVs - watch how quick people change their buying habits. |
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Where’s the appeal of a Recirculux that handles like a bar of soap, or a Hyundai/Kia with a ticking time bomb of an engine? A sleep inducing midsize SUV or an overpriced and impractical electric car? Yes there are decent cars with appeal still around (I really love my new Octavia RS) but none are on that list.
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Got to say myself personally on that list none grab me as a DD unless it’s an Everest V6 Sport or higher spec the rest are butt average for my liking.
If I had to chose my Sprint or one from the list know which key I’d grab each time quite simply. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Son has just purchased a hilux purely based on the tax man’s advise, although it’s 2nd hand 2018 model, the whole abn thing is not totally accurate, but does help the sales of them, but his tax advise was that as a tradie, abn or not, the whole purchase price, fuel, repairs, rego, insurance etc is tax deductible so financially he was better off taking the plunge…
After going in it I can see why some get them, mind you his “new” hilux has never been off road and he could not justify to himself the cost of em new
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I wonder if Ford or Toyota will chase the #1 vehicle sales. With Ford having their own dedicated ship does Toyota have the capacity available to ship more across? |
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So it’s not true, but it’s true? It’s not speculation. It’s common knowledge. Perhaps you could explain why you think an FBT advantage versus most of the rest of the market doesn’t result in higher sales. |
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Oh I'm not saying money is the issue but the big incentives are there to take advantage of, if the incentives go then so will a decent chunk of the sales.
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The dealers tell me the majority are leased There is also a lot of women getting round in 4 wd double cab utes assume owned by the husband/ wife business and with all the tax advantages/ course I m only guessing! |
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I was merely pointing out that a manufacturer might bring products to market but if they don't sell, they get culled. At the end of the day the power lies with the consumer and the vehicles that are selling are the vehicles people want.
There seems to always be this underlying notion by some that if it weren't for (insert excuse here, govt incentives etc) then falcons would still be in the mix. Australia is tipped to break the sales record this year, or come close. The dual cabs that are actually selling make up around 10% of sales. Are people actually suggesting the mix of cars in the top 25 is because people are buying cars they don't really want? That is my point. If you are one of the people that find the most popular cars of today don't appeal to you, then that is your problem, not the market buying cars they don't want.
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No, I'm suggesting the top 3 probably wouldn't be moving so many numbers if the incentives disappear.
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Mechanic also suggested Isuzu MUX for a long term travel car with an unbustable (diesel) drivetrain. Anyone own one? Is it as uncomfortable as some private reviewers say?
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