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As someone across Fords global models it feels like the Mach-E has been around for ages.
Meanwhile Europe have an Explorer EV hot off the press. |
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It could be worse, it could be a fish mouthed hunch back smoothed off turd like a Tossler. Why don’t they all just make EV’s look like real cars, and not trying so hard to look different that they just end up looking pig dog ugly? At least the mach e looks more like a traditional car. It looks pretty reasonable in the metal, but it’s nowhere near as good looking as a regular mustang. It does have an interesting spaceship sound when you reverse it though. It’s kinda funny. |
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In all practicality and seriousness ....
how quick do you need to get to the next set of lights in the city, what is the highest speed you can drive at (legally without getting a ticket) on regional roads, and I will race you at any time between Syd > Bris, or Syd > Melb, with you in your electric whatever and me in my 13 year old Territory. |
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To be fair, if I was driving a 13 year old Territory, I'd want the trip to be over as soon as possible too. ![]() It's fun driving fast cars. And last year, when a P plater ran a red light and my 39 weeks pregnant wife and I were in the car, having the power on tap allowed me to floor it to avoid getting T boned. That power saved maybe mine and my wife/unborn child that night. I've made this post public so you can see it. The Miami nor my Barra nor Coyote would've responded fast enough. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...ibextid=Nif5oz
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I'll be ****ed why they slap a Mustang badge on this. If it were a proper Mustang I'd get it but wow.
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Also given this thing is an EV this should be merged with the thread in the alternative power section. |
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Emissions standards in the US. Average fleet emissions. It allows for the V8 to exist longer. The same reason GM wants to do a Corvette EV SUV.
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Ford is doing it again with VW based BEV Explorer and companion Capri crossover. The big issue with Mach E is that they just can’t build enough at the Mexican plant to cover America and Europe while the plant production in China is just a joke. Chinese buyers have voted with their wallets and bought Tesla Y…….. |
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Not questioning the need for this car, and do believe that it's a fantastic car overall, I just wish they left the Mustang name off it.
I know why they did it, but the Mustang has always had a very specific identity, a big, long bonnet coupe or convertible. Putting the name on something completely different does the real one a disservice. Think of it this way, Porche styled a 911 influenced four-door sedan, but they didn't dare name it one! In the process, they didn't dilute the 911 heritage. Right from the beginning, I always thought "Galaxy" or Galaxy Mach E would have been more appropriate.
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The 911 uses a lot less fuel and are going hybrid. If Mustang went hybrid, they probably wouldn't need the Mach E. But that idea is dead. The Challenger had to go EV because they didn't have a nameplate EV.
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the money Ford spent rescuing the thing turned it into more of a Tesla Y competitor. So yeah, Ford is now selling out its storied nameplates to ensure the new BEVs succeed using a name like Galaxy would not have worked 1) because it’s Galaxie in USA and 2) Galaxy in Europe is a large 3-row mini van. They needed a family name that was recognisable and jumping on Mustang was all too easy. The approval to use Mustang came down to Bill Ford (his name on the company) and continued with Explorer and Capri. |
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This looks like some home baked half assed effort. |
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My opinion is that it is ugly and distracting, but it is the 'fashion' and common to a lot of current cars. Unfortunately. |
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Easy answer. If you plonk a big screen on a post sticking out from the dash it's much cheaper than redesigning the dash for every model....even if it does look like an afterthought.
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Then perhaps they can ponder why their product which is pretty much a mirror to the cheaper competitor doesn't sell.
Guess some of the hassle is whatever someone creates that is new or exciting, China just rip it off. Then if you challenge China over it they get offended. Last edited by myrpo; 25-04-2023 at 10:05 AM. |
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Who wants to go back to small screens and carrying a SydWay or MelWay or UBD. I want a big screen with maps clearly visible. Bugger those small screen. They are obsolete. Even my GTF has a big screen for the time. My BA screen looks tiny compared to it and useless as you need to move your eyes off the road to see it. Bigger screens are in your line of sight and are safer.
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Ah yes, this was a bug bear for a bit. Depends on the brand, many can be turned off. Others can be dimmed.
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https://www.drive.com.au/news/2024-f...ice-and-specs/ The 2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E is due in Australian showrooms between October and December 2023, pending any delays. 2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E Australian pricing Mustang Mach-E Select – $79,990 Mustang Mach-E Premium – $92,990 Mustang Mach-E GT – $108,990 Note: All prices above exclude on-road costs. 2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E Select standard features: 198kW/430Nm rear electric motor and 71kWh lithium iron phosphate battery 19-inch alloy wheels Reflector LED headlights (expected) Panoramic glass sunroof 15.5-inch Sync 4A infotainment touchscreen Satellite navigation 10.2-inch digital instrument cluster Black 'Sensico' synthetic leather-look upholstery Eight-way power-adjustable front seats 10-speaker B&O sound system Wireless smartphone charging pad 360-degree camera E-Latch electronic door handles Active, Whisper or Untame drive modes One-pedal driving function FordPass Connect app functionality 2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E Premium adds (over Select): 216kW/430Nm rear electric motor and 91kWh lithium-ion battery Projector LED headlights Red contrast stitching Black headlining Multi-colour ambient interior lighting "Premium-finish" sill plates and pedals 2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E GT adds (over Premium): Dual electric motors (358kW/860Nm combined) and 91kWh lithium-ion battery MagneRide adaptive suspension 'Untamed Plus' performance drive mode Brembo Flexira high-performance front brakes 20-inch alloy wheels with Pirelli tyres Ford Performance front sports seats with "soft-touch leather-like" trim Prestige paint costs $700 extra. The list of colours available is yet to be published. |
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It is not a pretty car but good to see Ford in the fight, im not an early adopter so I look forward to the increased competition.
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Looks a lot better in person.
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Hope they succeed though. I would've loved to have one.
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Just with a better infotainment system. Better car then the Model 3 / Y.
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Only reason I'd buy one is because it is a Ford. An emotional reason than purely based on logic of features.
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What’s “one pedal driving function”?
No brake pedal? Similar to a Linde hydrostatic forklift?
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It will bring the car to a complete stop as well so you don't have to press the brake unless in an emergency or if you didn't judge the regen correctly.
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But at least it doesn't look like a polished dog turd like the Tesla's do. |
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