Photo of Ferrari F620 GT leaked online

[XRDeeze]

Ferrari> GTR

I dont care how fast the GTR is, Its still a Nissan. FERRARI FTW , the name is just pure Awesomeness!

[gtxb67]

i have no need to try and impress those who don't matter, so i'll take the nissan

the only car that is pose worthy is a mclaren - simply because posing is only a small part of the experience

[Nikked]

Why buy a ferrari, it will just catch fire...

[Nic85]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

You'd choose a Datsun over a Ferarri, makes me wonder what you are even doing on an enthiusiasts site, shouldn't you be on the Toyota Corolla forums or something.

And by the way, Ferrari now have free servicing for the first 7 years.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2579340005B3E0

A Ferrari has passion and soul, a Nissan is just a machine.

Calling a Nissan a Datsun is like calling a Ferrari a Fiat.

I like both cars tremendously. But given the choice, I'll take speed and AWD grip every day.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Nic85

Calling a Nissan a Datsun is like calling a Ferrari a Fiat.

Not really, Fiat own Ferrari, Nissan was Datsun, or basically still is one and the same, just a different name.

Following that logic it would be like calling a Nissan a Renault.

[Nikked]

No, Datsun was started up away from Nissan (trading under a differnet name), who bought Datsun in the 30's...it was then that Nissan started manufacturing cars under both Nissan and Datsun brands.

[chris_cj53]

It should be illegal to put that much porn on the streets.

[1TUFFUTE]

NOT a big fan of this new ferrari...looks too much like a corvette with an SLR front.......rather the nissan

[Gman_86_xr6]

Yes the GTR is probably one of the fastest production cars going around, but at the end of the day it is still just a Nissan. You can get it serviced at any Nissan Dealer, it shares some components with lesser models like the Maxima and US market Skyline, and still has the same badge as a 13k Micra.

The Ferrari on the other hand, is and always will be a Ferrari, the mere fact that it's a Ferrari ensures that it will always be special. Every little bit of it from the indicator stalks, to the V12 engine is special, there is no comparison. The Ferrari is a Supercar, the GTR is a Racecar.

While the GTR is still faster than the Ferrari, they both sit equally well on the speed limit, most owners will never venture past the carpark of a racetrack and most of them will spend the majority of their days sitting in a garage gathering dust, and at the end of the day, the Ferrari will always command a greater interest.

Some people though will never underatand that some things are just finer than others, depite what the numbers on paper say.

In the end, one is a highly prestigious, much sought after supercar, the other is a Nissan.

[andyrob]

i have a friend with a jun engined 1000hp r35 gtr it lasted 2 weeks before it blew up sure it was fast but no soul another mate has a f430 scuderia both cars stand them about the same money after being in both cars there is no comparison the r35 is just a big fast car full of plastic and nasty cheap trim the ferrari is all carbon alcantera sounds amazing handles brakes and drives on a different level to the skyline and this is coming from an ex gtr owner

[Uwish]

I'll take a big bad bull.
Lambo Aventador is a much better looking car.
Can't wait!

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by Uwish

I'll take a big bad bull.
Lambo Aventador is a much better looking car.
Can't wait!

Lambo isnt Italian owned anymore, the soul has gone.
Plus they all look the same.

[gtfpv]

was never a Ferarri enthusiast till i seen them at Bathurst over the weekend .
NOW I HAVE LIVED . . if i am ever super wealthy one will be on my bucket list .

[SteveJH]

Originally Posted by andyrob

i have a friend with a jun engined 1000hp r35 gtr it lasted 2 weeks before it blew up sure it was fast but no soul another mate has a f430 scuderia both cars stand them about the same money after being in both cars there is no comparison the r35 is just a big fast car full of plastic and nasty cheap trim the ferrari is all carbon alcantera sounds amazing handles brakes and drives on a different level to the skyline and this is coming from an ex gtr owner

I'm not surprised it blew up if it was running twice the stock power levels.

If you want a *fast* car, I'd go the GT-R.

If you wanted attention, and refinement, go the Ferrari.

Remember, the GT-R is fast, but compared to the Ferrari it was done on a small budget, as a result savings have been made, and it isnt as refined as the Ferrari.

But for the money?!?

[Uwish]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Lambo isnt Italian owned anymore, the soul has gone.
Plus they all look the same.

Sill designed in Italy using German parts FTW.
Until you get to live with a LP640 ( Last true Italian ) then come and talk.
The new Aventador is a welcome change

[saam]

You cannot compare these two car brands as they are not targeted to the same market they are selling to, so its irrelevant

In saying that id own a ferrari but id never be able to afford one, so thats out of the question.

Id also own a GTR over any brand of ford has ever produced just because nissans are better built and better on the road. Yes i have owned both nissans and fords

This ferrari is made maily for the american market

In an ideal world id own a car for the family, a car for the road, a car for the race tracks , a car for cruising and a car for offroad

Can one car do this and still be the king of everything, NO

[Nikked]

Wow, two pages arguing over a Ferrari V's GTR...

Are people too dim-witted to accept the fact that both are great cars?

Nissan are a company that represents most sectors, from Micro cars to 4X4's, and have built a car that is a showcase of technology, innovation and representation of Nissans motorsport past.

The GT-R is a car that can be serviced through Nissans range of dealerships just like a Micra can be. That it nothing short of impressive, a car that can play with the exotic cars of the world, without the exotic maintenance.


Ferrari make exotic play toys, for the rich and wealthy, with years of motor sport heritage and a history of beautifully designed pininfarina bodies. Every kid has had a Ferrari poster on their wall growing up (until they hit teens, then the luscious curve belong to something else...)

[Nic85]

Originally Posted by Uwish

Sill designed in Italy using German parts FTW.
Until you get to live with a LP640 ( Last true Italian ) then come and talk.
The new Aventador is a welcome change

Not sure what you're saying there. The last Lambo to be fully Italian was the Diablo VTR back in 1996. Audi then aquired Lamborghini in 1998. Pretty sure there were a couple of special edition Diablo's under Audi ownership, then Audi brought out the Mercielago in 2001.

Just clarifying. Carry on.

[Wretched]

Motore
Tipo V12, 65°
Cilindrata totale 6262 cm3
Potenza massima 740 CV a 8250 giri/min
Coppia massima 690 Nm a 6000 giri/min

Dimensioni e peso
Lunghezza 4618 mm
Larghezza 1942 mm
Altezza 1273 mm
Peso a secco* 1525 kg
Distribuzione dei pesi 46% ant, 54% post
Rapporto peso/potenza 2,1 kg/CV

Prestazioni
Velocità massima oltre 340 km/h
0-100 km/h 3,1 secondi
0-200 km/h 8.5

Consumi ed Emissioni (ciclo combinato ECE + EUDC)
Consumo** 15l/100 km
Emissioni CO2** 350 gr/km

[nipper575]

Originally Posted by Wretched

image

Looks superb from that angle, but then not so much in the other shots.

[Nikked]

Looks like an Edsel ran up its arse.

[ivorya]

SEX on wheels

[dimka100]

There is a reason why Ferrari does not test their cars at the Nurburgring … and that has mostly to do with the fact that many much cheaper cars (e.g. GTR) will absolutely spank them on such a track …

A Ferrari is a true Italian spirit, and that means there is a lot more to the show and the drama than actual substance … when comparing that to the brutal precision engineering of the Germans or the Japanese you are simply comparing apples and oranges …

For most people who want to be ‘seen’ or ‘believe’ they are special there is Ferrari … for other people who want to crack records at the Nurburgring there is only one choice … the GTR, V-spec preferably

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by dimka100

There is a reason why Ferrari does not test their cars at the Nurburgring … and that has mostly to do with the fact that many much cheaper cars (e.g. GTR) will absolutely spank them on such a track …

A Ferrari is a true Italian spirit, and that means there is a lot more to the show and the drama than actual substance … when comparing that to the brutal precision engineering of the Germans or the Japanese you are simply comparing apples and oranges …

For most people who want to be ‘seen’ or ‘believe’ they are special there is Ferrari … for other people who want to crack records at the Nurburgring there is only one choice … the GTR, V-spec preferably

Being a bit harsh arent you?
Ferrari has proved itself in racing and by the amount of big dollar classics it has.

Japanese tech thats copied from everyone else, with ugly styling thats a pastiche of everyone elses...
Germans make nice cars, if not the most reliable.

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Being a bit harsh arent you?
Ferrari has proved itself in racing and by the amount of big dollar classics it has

a little patronising isn't it
i realise that f1 isn't the only racing, but without 2 germanic individuals, ferarri would still be waiting for their next post surtees/64 title. ferrari have been the most under achieving team at the pinnacle of racing. all of that money - all of that attention to detail . . . and all of those failures
if it wasn't for niki and michael, the team would have been the laughing stock for almost 50 years

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Japanese tech thats copied from everyone else, with ugly styling thats a pastiche of everyone elses...
Germans make nice cars, if not the most reliable.

And Porsche have won more Le Mans then ferrari, whats germany got to do with ferrari?


Lets just pile crap on Japan because they obviously don't know anything about car making and technology...


Or better yet, just stop trying to make a point.

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

a little patronising isn't it
i realise that f1 isn't the only racing, but without 2 germanic individuals, ferarri would still be waiting for their next post surtees/64 title. ferrari have been the most under achieving team at the pinnacle of racing. all of that money - all of that attention to detail . . . and all of those failures
if it wasn't for niki and michael, the team would have been the laughing stock for almost 50 years

Conveniently forgetting 79, 83 and 99?

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by Nikked

just pile crap on Japan because they obviously don't know anything about car making and technology...


Or better yet, just stop trying to make a point.

lucky i know this is tongue in cheek, so i don't have to mention my japanese appliances have all worked fine . . . yet the italian dishwasher had stopped after 7 months - it's is my fault though, I knew of it's origins before i bought it

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

lucky i know this tongue in cheek, so i don't have to mention my japanese appliances have all worked fine . . . yet the italian dishwasher had stopped after 7 months - it's is my fault though, I knew of it's origins before i bought it

Well you have an XB, should be used to lame ducks mate.
good luck on the next purchase.

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Conveniently forgetting 79, 83 and 99?

no - niki built a good team that even ferrari couldn't totally ruin within 2 years. they did a great job in 80 though. budget, turbo etc helped in 83
99 - michael was there remember and he had already built the team around him
07 was similar to 79. jody and kimi deserved their titles, but the cars were still enjoying their previous driver's success