Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers - Page 2

*Sloxr6* · 25-02-2013, 05:51 PM

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Shockworks · 26-02-2013, 04:43 PM

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Price*

Hi Sloxr6,

As we have just finished the tuning of the ute we will confirm pricing in the next week. The dampers kit for the ute/wagon will be cheaper than the sedan due to the rear only using the damper. We are also sourcing a revised leaf spring for the rear of the ute which will be an option.
Made a great improvement to the handling on the ute with improved wheel control. Pity we can't get all the shake out of the ute which has always been a problem from day one..

Cheers

05_ENFORCER · 17-03-2013, 03:44 PM

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Korea will have the yoke for the 4WD in the next couple of days with the original tuning dampers from the F6X to make all the measurments.
Can't wait to will we get back into a Territory.
Will keep you posted.
Cheers

Waiting with anticipation Brett.

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Cobramad · 09-04-2013, 11:13 AM

Another keen Territory owner here as well so keep it happening!
Cheers.

Shockworks · 10-04-2013, 09:57 AM

I will be In SOUTH KOREA haha, on Friday and will finalise the drawings for Territory when I am together with the team. The rear is now set so just the front now and then to make tuning samples. A little more of a challenge to get all the features we want when mounting the damper to the yoke but should turn out quite good with all the original travels as much as we can.
Cheers
Brett

Cobramad · 10-04-2013, 10:57 AM

Yes, its hard to strive for both ride control and comfort, some sacrifices need to be made.
Have sampled King springs and Boge dampers and they were a considerable improvement but would like more body control without undue harshness (would drive the wife nuts, and make life miserable for me as well!! Ha ha ha..
Perhaps a softer than aftermarket spring and a better damper?

Shockworks · 10-04-2013, 03:15 PM

We will be going up in spring rate without the harshness, as we have done with the Falcon, even with new top mounts. One of the keys to the roll in my experience is from the rear in the Territory. Our tuning allows us to also keep our wife happy haha.
Cheers

Trump · 10-04-2013, 08:59 PM

That looks like a winning setup you've created for our cars. I've been overseas for work these past few months, but am back now and was hunting around for a good price for Bilsteins with H&R springs to fit to my FG XR6T. I'm looking at $1500 supply only for the German stuff, but if your kit is only $500 more with full adjustability... you'll have my business.

Shockworks · 11-04-2013, 09:37 AM

Hi loud Noises,

I will be in Korea testing for two and a half weeks. Chris will ba able to look after you if you want the kit soon and we can also do the install and heights for you.
Cheers

05_ENFORCER · 11-04-2013, 09:48 AM

Send us a picture of a rocket whilst you are there Brett, LMFAO

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Shockworks · 11-04-2013, 09:51 AM

The jelly belly boss from the North can't catch me in what I am driving haha. I should be safe at the southern tip at the F1 circuit, I hope!!

Fighter jets always fly over in other trips and really low so, will get a shot and post it.
Cheers mate

Whitey-AMG · 02-06-2013, 09:07 PM

Brett - thanks for all your help and advice. Was great to meet you last week. Boy can you chat about shock absorbers and seals and shafts.....

Mate, just a quick check in to tell you that the Coilovers are working great on the GT. so far so good. I'm very fussy with these things so I don't give thanks out lightly.

The car feels so much lighter on its feet and actually now handles like it's little 6 cylinder brother. The front end feels so much more planted and the on centre feel is so much more accurate. It's a shame they didn't manage to refine the suspension from factory further with the BF as they had planned.....it would have surprised so many doubters and shut the hell out of the critics big time.....

The ride now is a little more bouncy but the compliance is still great and is "comfy" enough not to unsettle the wife..... I imagine this will get even better with a new set of tyres that are coming soon.....the fact that the ride still feels good on a completely shagged set of tyres is pretty good testament to the quality of these things.

The ability to change direction sharply without under steer anymore is amazing....lost for words how much better it is. Our drive together in the rain was also amazing....how it managed to grip on sharp direction change with my shagged tyres in those wet conditions still has me gobsmacked!

I'm thinking of throwing out the whiteline bar and whacking the factory unit back in per our chat.....I think you are right....it will allow for even better balance without the added stiffness.

All in all - with the driving I've done so far and considering mostly in the wet, I'm impressed. So far so good. My favourite stretches of road that I frequent just got that much better.

I'll post some pics of the ride height up soon. Just need a nice day to wash BLUEY and get some nice snaps. No scrapes and the front and rear end sits just beautifully.....slightly lower than before but still gets access up the driveway with 4 on board. Great stuff.

Shockworks · 03-06-2013, 09:27 AM

Thanks for the feedback ESP!! Great to hear your happy with the new feel of the car and dont forget to start playing the the damper adjustments. The cars response will get sharper again and without the delay, turning in that the factory dampers can give.
It was so good to drive you BF and show you the grip that the car can now achieve in the wet.
If you want anything changed with the heights or would like a spanner check, just give us a call and we will arrange a time to get the beauty on the hoist again. I will need to give another test drive though haha

Cheers
Brett

Dylby77 · 07-06-2013, 08:56 PM

Hi Brett, I just got an F6x with about 90,000ks making a few knocks, think some bushes are stuffed, would love your advice on getting them all done at he same time as a set of your shocks (when they're ready for the territory) and can you recommend anyone in SE Qld (Ipswich) with fitting?
Also have a FG F6, so will have to save some coin to get them both done

twr7cx · 11-06-2013, 02:34 PM

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In regards to the threaded adjustment underneath the spring for adjusting the height. Is the whole shock body threaded?

Shockworks · 11-06-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylby77

Hi Brett, I just got an F6x with about 90,000ks making a few knocks, think some bushes are stuffed, would love your advice on getting them all done at he same time as a set of your shocks (when they're ready for the territory) and can you recommend anyone in SE Qld (Ipswich) with fitting?
Also have a FG F6, so will have to save some coin to get them both done

Hi Dylby77,

The Territory suffers badly from the bushes going which is a shame as its a pain in the $%# to fix some of them.
To date we don't have any dealers up North yet but have plans to get up there soon to find some good guys in the field that will sell and install our dampers. We have had a couple of delays in the new version of the Territory lower front mount but will be much stronger than the first designs.
I do know Pedders have a new bush fix for the front that seems to be OK and a new tool that installs it on-car so much cheaper to fit.
We only went up 10% in the spring rate over the standard Territory with the F6X but ended up a great improvement on the std rig. Now we have a better damper with more options so can't wait to get started.
I will be in China testing for the next 2 weeks and will start the Territory development on my return.
Cheers
Brett

Shockworks · 11-06-2013, 02:49 PM

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In regards to the threaded adjustment underneath the spring for adjusting the height. Is the whole shock body threaded?

Hi twr7cx,
We decided to have to whole body threaded as it increases the surface area by quite a bit so good for the cooling of the damper on the rough stuff. Easy for us to manufacture either way but thought this would be better for our bad roads.
Cheers
Brett

twr7cx · 12-06-2013, 06:44 PM

What springs are used? Are they just a universal 9kg 2.5" spring? I'm wondering how hard it would be if I wanted to change the spring to say a softer 8kg unit.

What is the height adjustability like on them? Contrary to most, I'm more interested in how high can I go (rather than how low)? I'd particularly like to be able to maintain the vehicle height at at least the Tickford XR/low height rather than going any lower and having clearance and scraping issues.

40RDT · 22-06-2013, 08:50 PM

How much for the just the front coilovers only to suit my BF ute?

Pepscobra · 22-06-2013, 09:03 PM

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How much for the just the front coilovers only to suit my BF ute?

Still no complete packages for the ute yet?

40RDT · 22-06-2013, 09:44 PM

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Still no complete packages for the ute yet?

Arent the front of utes and sedans the same? Im after the front coilovers only.

Pepscobra · 22-06-2013, 09:53 PM

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Arent the front of utes and sedans the same? Im after the front coilovers only.

Yep, they are mate. I was just querying if they'd put together a complete package for the ute yet, on the back of your question.

Shockworks · 22-06-2013, 10:33 PM

Hi guy's,

The Ute dampers for the rear are on there way so will post up soon when they arrive. We have currently tuned the dampers for the standard XR rear leafs and will be also retuning for the Herrod leafs that work well but require a bit more damping. Should only be a couple of weeks away. I am currently out of the country tuning dampers for a couple of car manufacturers and will be back on the 30th. Sorry for the delays and a little frustrated we couldn't get them finished earlier.
Cheers
Brett

Pepscobra · 22-06-2013, 10:41 PM

Hi Brett,
I've got Kings FOR-303SL leaf springs on my FPV ute... How would your dampers go with these springs?

Shockworks · 22-06-2013, 10:47 PM

Hey Pepscobra,

Should be fine with our damper tune but if you are not entirely happy, we would be happy to do a custom tune on your spring but from what we have done with the ute rear and the adjustment system should be very good mate. Just can't wait to get the bloody things to Shockworks!!

Cheers

twr7cx · 23-06-2013, 03:25 PM

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The Ute dampers for the rear are on there way so will post up soon when they arrive. We have currently tuned the dampers for the standard XR rear leafs and will be also retuning for the Herrod leafs that work well but require a bit more damping.

So are the rear ute shocks adjustable or are they set to match a particular spring?

Shockworks · 23-06-2013, 03:32 PM

The dampers have been tuned for the XR ute leaf springs. We have set the full soft for no weight in the back and a comfortable ride, with much improved handling. When you are carrying weight, you can adjust the damper at the top mount to have much better control of the load. We have tested with 550Kg with great results over the standard damper. We will also do a tune for the Herrod leafs so we will have two versions of the damper available. The dampers that are on there way and will be at the docks in a couple of weeks.

Cheers
Brett

Pepscobra · 23-06-2013, 04:02 PM

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The dampers have been tuned for the XR ute leaf springs. We have set the full soft for no weight in the back and a comfortable ride, with much improved handling. When you are carrying weight, you can adjust the damper at the top mount to have much better control of the load. We have tested with 550Kg with great results over the standard damper. We will also do a tune for the Herrod leafs so we will have two versions of the damper available. The dampers that are on there way and will be at the docks in a couple of weeks.

Cheers
Brett

So the rear dampers do have an adjusting knob on them like the front dampers do?
I assume you increase the 'hardness' as weight in the back increases?

I wish I had a better understanding of this stuff and how it all works

Cheers,
Joe.

Benno73 · 23-06-2013, 04:07 PM

Hi Brett,

How is these shocks dampening adjusted, do we have to crawl under the car each time?

Is the ute set-up like that in the wagon?

Cheers Ben

Shockworks · 23-06-2013, 04:11 PM

Its mainly in the rebound stroke and in the low speed damping of both compression and rebound. We wanted better initial control of the weight with the adjustment system and buy increasing the rebound damping the ute does not have such a floaty feel when its heavy. The standard damper unladen suffered from some impact harshness as it had to be tuned to carry loads but did nothing for the handling and diagonal pitch, which I found was quite average. The new damper helps the front response and stops the rear rotating around the front when its got some weight as well. If we increased the compression damping too much when adjusting the damper to firmer settings, it makes it kick off and generally a bit nervous so absorbs bumps well even when set to hard.
Funny messaging you guys on the 18 floor looking out at the pollution in Chongqing. Cant wait to get back to fresh air!!
Cheers