Holden Culls 30 Dealers.

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by Sam1112

Perhaps like GM in Europe they will sell off the Holden name and brand to another car company once/if it goes down hill after the Commodore is gone, they will see it as a good way to boost their local sales, perhaps PSA would buy it too and just sell their new rebadged Vauxhall's as Holden here. Maybe a chinese car company would take on the badge, would people buy a great wall if it had a Holden Badge on it??? Not knowing that is was a chinese car.

Of course they would . Just look at Daewoo Kalos sales before and after the lame lion badge was attached to it. If Kia Australia had a brain, they'd put a bid to GM on the lame lion logo, and sell all their premium models like the Stinger under that badge. The one eyed holden brigade wouldn't know the difference and would still swear black and blue their Holdens are made in Australian.

[Tassie f100]

In a few years time some one will say the word Falcon and all the under 40,s will ask, what is that.Some one older will stand up and say that the Falcon used to be made in Aust but is now regarded as an outdated fuel guzzling,heavy, old third world type car

[Windsor220]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

In a few years time some one will say the word Falcon and all the under 40,s will ask, what is that.Some one older will stand up and say that the Falcon used to be made in Aust but is now regarded as an outdated fuel guzzling,heavy, old third world type car

Its almost like that now. Haven't heard anyone genuinely talk about Falcon for a good 5 years apart from a couple of country types.

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by ronwest

In my street of 30 houses I'm the only one with a Holden or Ford

my street has 4 falcons... three of them utes (including mine)

[Gothefalcon]

I've never bought a Holden.. so how many Holden Dealers there are doesn't directly concern me !

Sadly (for me), Ford stopped making the Fairlane in 2008 and the Falcon Wagon in 2010... so even how many Ford Dealers there are hasn't directly concerned me for many years either !

It is slightly sobering though... as it just brings back into focus the ramifications of the loss of our Aussie car industry ! This also includes Toyota with the Camry/Aurion twins... and yet, more Aussies buy Tojo's than anything else... and have done for a long while now... even though most of them are imported !

I believe, with the sale of Opel to PSA... the new Commodore has become completely irrelevant as a "Holden" ! If it was still a GM product, then it might have retained some relevance... but not now ! With the loss of that (& the other Opel based product) from the "GM" range... the "Holden" branding will probably die a slow death too !??

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[MethodX]

Originally Posted by Gothefalcon

I've never bought a Holden.. so how many Holden Dealers there are doesn't directly concern me !

Sadly (for me), Ford stopped making the Fairlane in 2008 and the Falcon Wagon in 2010... so even how many Ford Dealers there are hasn't directly concerned me for many years either !

It is slightly sobering though... as it just brings back into focus the ramifications of the loss of our Aussie car industry ! This also includes Toyota with the Camry/Aurion twins... and yet, more Aussies buy Tojo's than anything else... and have done for a long while now... even though most of them are imported !

I believe, with the sale of Opel to PSA... the new Commodore has become completely irrelevant as a "Holden" ! If it was still a GM product, then it might have retained some relevance... but not now ! With the loss of that (& the other Opel based product) from the "GM" range... the "Holden" branding will probably die a slow death too !??

D

As long as GM sells as one of their names in Aus, then ok.

[ronwest]

Originally Posted by aussie muscle

my street has 4 falcons... three of them utes (including mine)

I've been thinking about the "olden" days.

I was 17 when I got my first car (1967).

In those days there was a wide range of vehicles available but Holden and Ford ruled the roost. They were everywhere!

Not everyone in our street had a car but those I remember are:- Hillman Imp, FB x 2, FC, XL, HD x 2, Toyota Tiara?, EJ, Morris Minor, Humber, EK, plus a couple of others whose makes I can't recall.

The big event was 12 months later when the guy up the road bought a 186S Monaro. Very different shape + white interior!

The whole street was up there admiring it.

Sunday was car cleaning day. Just about everyone was out washing and polishing their pride and joy.

Simple times...

[roddy1960]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

In a few years time some one will say the word Falcon and all the under 40,s will ask, what is that.Some one older will stand up and say that the Falcon used to be made in Aust but is now regarded as an outdated fuel guzzling,heavy, old third world type car

..wash your mouth out with soap , even if it's true...perish the thought..

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by ronwest

I think that's right. However I think that Ford's stocks will also continue to diminish.

Of my 4 kids + spouses (9 cars) there is one Holden or Ford (VF SS).

In my street of 30 houses I'm the only one with a Holden or Ford (1 Holden, 2 Fords).

Twice a week I walk up to our local school to pick up my grandkids. Not a Holden or Ford to be seen in the parking area or pick up line.

Sadly, most peeps have moved on...

Not a Ford or Holden, or not a Falcon or Commodore? On the very odd occasion when I pick my kids up from school there's only a handful of Falcons and Commodores. There's plenty of Fords and Holdens, though.

[ronwest]

Originally Posted by Cobra

Not a Ford or Holden, or not a Falcon or Commodore? On the very odd occasion when I pick my kids up from school there's only a handful of Falcons and Commodores. There's plenty of Fords and Holdens, though.

It's a smallish primary school (<500 kids) and I have to walk past the cars parked on the road and then past the pick up bay and through the carpark.

There used to be a Territory and a Colorado parked on the road and a BF parked in the carpark.

Haven't seen any of them for a while.

I'll take special note next Monday as it's possible I've overlooked one of the Holden or Ford makes but I don't think so.

90% small cars and suvs.

[DanielXR8]

Originally Posted by Windsor220

Its almost like that now. Haven't heard anyone genuinely talk about Falcon for a good 5 years apart from a couple of country types.

With hindsight, maybe the Falcon Forums wasn't such a great idea, when they started up a few years ago.

[Syndrome]

Any more cuts added to this list?

[roddy1960]

I'm old enough to recall GM Jacksons as only selling Ford vehicles and Motors only selling Holdens . Reeman and Manning sold Chrysler then Mitsubishi , Von Bibra sold Nissan and Toyota and Mazda sold a decent range of their own products . This is in a city (Launceston ) that would have been less than 80,000 people in the mid to late 1970's . Saturday Examiner paper featured all the major car dealerships with full page ads while the numerous smaller car yards ran decent car listings.

Nowadays you'll see a bit on a Friday newspaper , a motoring section in the Saturday paper with a few ads and that's about all . The Online services are now the key way to look for your next steed . Fair enough I suppose but it was nice to go to the local newsagents on a Saturday morning for the local rag to mull over what was available in the various yards .

On the Ford perspective Jackson Motor Company as it's now called sell the following Ford , Audi , Isuzu , Kia, Mitsubishi , Subaru, Suzuki, VW and VW Commercial . No wonder that when I rang spare parts about Christmas time to get some prices on a FG alloy wheel the young bloke had a hard time even understanding it was a Ford Falcon . Half expected him to say "What's a Falcon "..

Times have certainly changed in the past 3-4 decades that's for sure .

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

In a few years time some one will say the word Falcon and all the under 40,s will ask, what is that.Some one older will stand up and say that the Falcon used to be made in Aust but is now regarded as an outdated fuel guzzling,heavy, old third world type car

It’s sad, as the Falcon was a stark reminder of a simpler time and a simpler place we all long for. The old Australia craps all over the new Australia, and I don’t even want to think of the future Australia. This globalist garbage has sold Australia out and made sure we are force fed junk from third world countries. Tell me now which cars are the third world type car...

[Ford17]

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

It’s sad, as the Falcon was a stark reminder of a simpler time and a simpler place we all long for. The old Australia craps all over the new Australia, and I don’t even want to think of the future Australia. This globalist garbage has sold Australia out and made sure we are force fed junk from third world countries. Tell me now which cars are the third world type car...

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

In a few years time some one will say the word Falcon and all the under 40,s will ask, what is that.Some one older will stand up and say that the Falcon used to be made in Aust but is now regarded as an outdated fuel guzzling,heavy, old third world type car

Yet there is no such backlash against the Mustang, despite it being less practical than the Falcon?

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

It’s sad, as the Falcon was a stark reminder of a simpler time and a simpler place we all long for. The old Australia craps all over the new Australia,

Don't talk on my behalf, thanks!

[marty351]

Spoken in Dukes of hazard style...

Well, I don't know what them Holden boys are gonna do now, but it looks like they just run out of turds to polish.

[JIm260]

In my town there are still lots of Holdens and Fords, the next town over lost its Holden dealer, I thought it would go as its the smallest dealership I have ever seen, they also sold tractors.......

Cheers
Jim

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

It’s sad, as the Falcon was a stark reminder of a simpler time and a simpler place we all long for. The old Australia craps all over the new Australia, and I don’t even want to think of the future Australia. This globalist garbage has sold Australia out and made sure we are force fed junk from third world countries. Tell me now which cars are the third world type car...

Go and compare metrics like income to house price, government debt per person, quality of living measured in resources or space per person, egalitarian structure of society - the old Australia wins hands down.

We all have more stuff (and personal debt) in the new Australia now. And opportunity to travel the world, and occupations exist now that are far more esoteric. So there's that.

No more Aussie designed and built cars. Only G20 nation that doesn't, so future looks more 3rd world and past looks more 1st world.

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

Go and compare metrics like income to house price, government debt per person, quality of living measured in resources or space per person, egalitarian structure of society - the old Australia wins hands down.

We all have more stuff (and personal debt) in the new Australia now. And opportunity to travel the world, and occupations exist now that are far more esoteric. So there's that.

No more Aussie designed and built cars. Only G20 nation that doesn't, so future looks more 3rd world and past looks more 1st world.

I yearn for the old Australia even if it means people start calling me a bloody wog again.

[robertjp]

"Not the Kingswood!"

[danzvtil]

Originally Posted by ronwest

I think that's right. However I think that Ford's stocks will also continue to diminish.

Of my 4 kids + spouses (9 cars) there is one Holden or Ford (VF SS).

In my street of 30 houses I'm the only one with a Holden or Ford (1 Holden, 2 Fords).

Twice a week I walk up to our local school to pick up my grandkids. Not a Holden or Ford to be seen in the parking area or pick up line.

Sadly, most peeps have moved on...

Shiet, how many spouses do you have?!

[roddy1960]

Originally Posted by robertjp

"Not the Kingswood!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVmzLCfN8LA

Those were the days ....Try being a bit non politically correct now and see who whines and whinges . I think we all knew a Ted Bullpitt ..

[bathurst77]

Originally Posted by robertjp

"Not the Kingswood!"

The Opel? You're not taking the Opel! Im just taking it to be recalled."

[lra]

I must live in a very backward part of Oz.
Plenty of late model Commodores, Falcons and Territories in the supermarket carparks, with a lot of well looked after 15 -20 year old versions.
And on the weekend, the 'old' chrome bumper cars come out.
I thought I saw a Opel Commodore in my rear view mirror yesterday, but when I let it pass me it was an Astra sedan. Moment of wonder gone.

[lra]

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

The one eyed holden brigade wouldn't know the difference and would still swear black and blue their Holdens are made in Australian.

The one eyed Holden brigade are not that stupid. They know the difference between Oz made and imported. That is why there are huge back orders and waiting lists for the new Opeldore ...... not.

The general car/appliance shopping brigade don't know, or care where their cars are made. You may also be very surprised how many sales persons / customer consultants don't know where their product is made.
Two Kia salespersons tried to convince me that a 2015 Kia Sportage was made in South Korea. Just like all BMWs and Mercs are made in Germany.

[roddy1960]

Originally Posted by lra

The one eyed Holden brigade are not that stupid. They know the difference between Oz made and imported. That is why there are huge back orders and waiting lists for the new Opeldore ...... not.

The general car/appliance shopping brigade don't know, or care where their cars are made. You may also be very surprised how many sales persons / customer consultants don't know where their product is made.
Two Kia salespersons tried to convince me that a 2015 Kia Sportage was made in South Korea. Just like all BMWs and Mercs are made in Germany.

Oh yeah ...spot on . Just about Christmas time I was investigating the possibility of buying a brand new alloy for my 2008 FG XR6 and I rang the local Ford dealership . I was dismayed to finally find out a price after a lot of effort but I was equally dismayed to see how much these people didn't know about my car . It wasn't until a much more experienced and older person in Spare Parts took over on my request that i got some answers . $1035 and a wait for an unspecified period dissuaded me going much further and after about 20 minutes of frustration .

[roddy1960]

WARNING : Viewer discretion advised .

Ensure you have eaten well beforehand if watching this video.

Otherwise it'll result in a technicolour yawn regurgitating your meal after watching this bloke dishing out this spin .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03o1W-Sln9c


They won't need to cull dealerships , they'll be jumping ship before then on the back of this crap.

Apologies to all especially real Commodore fans.

[jgmdat]

Originally Posted by roddy1960

WARNING : Viewer discretion advised .

Ensure you have eaten well beforehand if watching this video.

Otherwise it'll result in a technicolour yawn regurgitating your meal after watching this bloke dishing out this spin .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03o1W-Sln9c


They won't need to cull dealerships , they'll be jumping ship before then on the back of this crap.

Apologies to all especially real Commodore fans.

Ha ha if Nando thinks a performance model is 235kw maybe he should go back to selling Peri Peri Chicken.

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by danzvtil

Shiet, how many spouses do you have?!

Was about to ask the same thing