Someone got caught doing 250+ in northern Victoria!! someone else got caught doing180

[Keepleft]

The most serious offence on the face of it is the one detected at 180km/h in the 60km/h zone. This is obviously a built-up area, inherently far more dangerous than someone in a 110km/h dual-carriageway zone, full stop.

Rem, these are typically momentary speed 'top outs', not necessarily sustained, - owing the necessity to vary speed because of constantly varying road and traffic changes per length.

REM too - that on the rural Stuart Highway in NT, this is not an offence.

Each offender detected is guilty of 'exceeding the speed limit' and should plead so at court, but may or may not be found guilty of other 'speed related' charges.

What comes into this is 'manner', the length of road/duration, and factors relating to varying traffic density and so on.

Some at speed are quite tidy, yet others at the same speed can appear quite messy.

The 250km/h speed (70 metres per second) is normal, dry - daily autobahn speed, and I can tell you autobahn are not the ants pants of road building either.

IF we argue a '5 second reaction time' (hideously drunk/dead person performance) for an 'event requiring urgent action on part of the driver' to the 70 metres for 250km/h reality, thats 350 metres travelled before driver action to brake.

Add then to this 350 metre distance figure - the braking performance of say an FSM Niki from that speed (250km/h) to come to a full, safe stop, lets say 200 metres:-) a total of 550 metres SIGHT DISTANCE of a length of road would be required, and mathmatically is required to be considered safe.

The further you can see ahead so to speak, the better.

HOWEVER, other factors come into play that combat that mathmatical reality are for example, 'night driving and headlight' seeing performance, TYRE speed rating and pressure at point of operation, and indeed literally hundreds of other factors that I can think of can come into play that can prove various charges, but may not if they are not factual.

[lv619]

The guy who was caught in box hill was interviewed on ch7, saying how he regreted his actions and that it was a spur of the moment type of thing. They showed his car too, it was a fairly nice looking blueprint AUIII xr8 220

[BOSS 540]

A 60km/h street would be a stupid place to do 180, however there are some places where such speeds are completely appropriate, like an unrestricted straight / safe road in outback NT. Getting all hysterical about it only fuels more enforcement meaning joe blo gets busted doing '63 in a 60' by a speed camera (which is the situation right now). All Im saying is, the press, government and police love this stuff because it gives them all the ammo they need..

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by AU_bullet

goes to show you cant outsmart the cops.

You've got that right. :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:



Cheers, Danny

[Iphido]

Usually these cases of "clocked at 180!" are usually really dead guilty and bad behaviour cases.

Plenty of people get clocked above 160, and some over 200 kmph and none of it makes the papers.

Faber's son was doging in and out of traffic at ~230kmph (BMW) with police pursuing and he claimed he didn't notice and was just keeping up with traffic.. got off with a minimal sentence I belive.

I know personally while 250 kmph cruising is possible, it is best done at optimal conditions. Goto NT or Germany, and either enjoy sunny roads with no corners at speed. Or rural wet autobahns with traffic and road works with varying 130 and 250 limits.

[ARYAN]

On freeways , motorways whatever they are called people should be allowed to go faster than the 100 km limit..it just does not work..everybody speeds..in germany on autobahn you can go as fast as your car goes..so are germans idiots to allow this??
I have done 220 km in Germany and believe me it was safer than driving in crowded traffic..(by the way I come from Europe)

[buickman]

Lucky their both caught with no deaths or injuries. I just hope they learn their lessons at of this.As others have said there are race tracks were you are less likely to hit a tree, pole or another car with family's. At those speeds there is now way they would be able to control the car if somthing happened.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Look, the point is - as many people have said, time and place. Public roads = place for people to commute to and from their destination at the speed limit in relative safety, NOT an avenue for land speed records. If you want to go fast, do it on the track, where the only person you can really hurt is yourself, providing no one else is in your car or on the track near you.

I HATE these jumped up pricks that think they can outdrive anyone they come across simply because they can push a pedal in a straight line. It's amazing how many straight line speeders you can pass while you're still doing the limit, simply because they have no clue how to corner, and slow down like it's the most perplexing challenge they've ever had. Then, as soon as it's straight again, boom. Speeding on public roads, primarilly around others = selfish bullИИИИ that unfortunately, will never stop.

Why ? Because everyone thinks 'it won't happen to me'. Then when it does, they regret it for the rest of their lives. My, and most other people on this forum's car is capable of 200km/h, more if reprogrammed, but you have to use something called common sense, which sadly, isn't so common any more.

Hope they get their cars auctioned like that Sydney case mentioned here. Suck ИИИИ fellas, learn the ИИИИing lesson.

[XE351B]

i agree with you about the german autobahn, we were doing 180 in a fiat stilo, it's a 4 cylinder diesel and it was so smooth, if i didn't look at the speedo i would have thought we were doing 110 km/h max. i also think that 100 km/h is too slow for a freeway, but i only think this way after i stayed in germany for a month and saw for myself how the autobahn is, i didn't see any problems with it.

[INJECTED_250]

I love reading the posts from people saying that speeding is only for the race track.. So they have never done 140? on a public road .... Which is enuf to loose youre ticket .YEAH RIGHT. Id say 95% of the people on here have done 150+ on a public road... at one point in there life. More than likely country roads
The only thing is theres good spots and bad spots... ie 60 km zones. On a dead straight road with no side streets or drive ways (county) its a fairly harmless act, doing that ИИИИ in 60 k zone is crazy.
Edited (and before i get 200 pms from the do gooders on here my speedo in the avitar is like that cose ive got 3.7's gears witha 308 spedo gear :> )

[EDManual]

I've done heaps of driving at 200 ish about 15,000km, and another 30,000 at 160 to 200. Some on Autobahns in Germany, some In Oz.

The thing I consider and I dont care what anyone says :-) is that if I can see further than I need to safely brake for any situation, and there is nothing that could hide in this distance, then as long as the car is in perfect nick, no problems.

I also consider roads like 2 way country NT roads to be as safe as dual roads, because of this.... You are roaring along at big speeds when there is NO ONE around! When there is someone coming from the other direction, you slow to something apropriate like 100.

[EDManual]

They showed the BMW, it was an M3 of about 1992 or so.

Been watching the dukes of hazzard series lately, thats an awesome show!, the driver should have had an oil drop button to send the cops sliding off the road into a paddock! *just kidding*

[Keepleft]

Originally Posted by ARYAN

On freeways , motorways whatever they are called people should be allowed to go faster than the 100 km limit..it just does not work..everybody speeds..in germany on autobahn you can go as fast as your car goes..so are germans idiots to allow this??
I have done 220 km in Germany and believe me it was safer than driving in crowded traffic..(by the way I come from Europe)

The problem in Australia, and in particular my home state of NSW, are that our road design guidelines in relation to freeway category roads allow for dedicated median U-Turn access points - intended for emergency use only. We DON'T use these in EU.

The problem is people generally (and Caltex employees & customers, per F3) use these daily as intersections, often cutting-in front of closing traffic which then impacts OR has to reduce speed suddenly to avoid same. On that basis it would be negligent to raise the 110km/h speed limit UNTIL these bays are removed AND we have mandatory, continouous median barrier to prevent crossover crashes.

I am working at closing three such bays on the F3 here in NSW near the Caltext twin service stations, numbers 40, 41 and 42.

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by Keepleft

I am working at closing three such bays on the F3 here in NSW near the Caltex twin service stations, numbers 40, 41 and 42.

Be sure to let us know what eventuates with this. This is an area that requires more police enforcement.

Cheers, Danny

[jspec_sti]

Originally Posted by lv619

The guy who was caught in box hill was interviewed on ch7, saying how he regreted his actions and that it was a spur of the moment type of thing. They showed his car too, it was a fairly nice looking blueprint AUIII xr8 220

A very stupid thing to do... But you can only resist the roar of the Windsor for so long...

I'm so glad mine only comes out on weekends. And no, I don't condone speeding on public roads.

[Dauphin]

Was a typical AUIII XR8 220 speed limiter set to 180kph? If it had been disabled, I wonder if this guy had gone faster. They interviewed him on the news and he said he had mates in the car, it was a moment of being egg'd on to do it and that he's selling his car. I wonder if he's a member of the board.

[EDManual]

he had nice wheels on that xr8! 18 inch at least!

[Woz]

The bloke caught in Box Hill, who lives in Vermont South, lives only a couple of houses from a good mate of him. Apparently he's a bit of a knobend. My mate wasn't surprised at all about this. He messaged me last night and told me about it.

[Woz]

Originally Posted by Dauphin

They interviewed him on the news and he said he had mates in the car, it was a moment of being egg'd on to do it and that he's selling his car.

For Sale: AUIII XR8. Drives well, goes quick. One owner. Thrashed on sundays.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by Woz

For Sale: AUIII XR8. Drives well, goes quick. One owner. Thrashed on sundays.

...real head turner, attracts a lot of attention - car displayed on channel 2, 7, 9 & 10..

[merlin]

Originally Posted by Wokkas

We all say how dangerous it is, and it's pretty bloody stupid (but not nearly as stupid as running from the police), but we all know what it feels like when adrenaline kicks in when driving a powerfull car (or bike).

It's the same story with motorbikes.
None of us bike riders are angels (as far as laws are concerned), but there is a time and a place.

It's the idiots who choose to speed/thrash, in built up area's that may cause danger to other people who end up giving us all a bad name.

"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone" is the saying, isn't it?

I agree - 180 in a 60 is pretty stupid, but what 260 on a 3 lane freeway in the dead of night? meh i dunno, i'll stop there.

[nobbystang]

With Technology making cars alot safer with bigger brakes and alot better suspension they aren't death machines like they once were. If only the government could make cars more affordable so people could upgrade and we'd be able to raise speed limits on the open roads. I believe 150kmh on a beautiful open road in a new car is safer than 110kmh in something 15-20 years old.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by nobbystang

With Technology making cars alot safer with bigger brakes and alot better suspension they aren't death machines like they once were. If only the government could make cars more affordable so people could upgrade and we'd be able to raise speed limits on the open roads. I believe 150kmh on a beautiful open road in a new car is safer than 110kmh in something 15-20 years old.

Cars are still deathtraps, they pretty much always will be, and people are going on about how safe cars are and how much they've improved blah blah blah, forgetting that aspect is only one among many involved. The skill level of a lot of drivers is often far lower than the capability level of the car itself. As long as THIS factor remains, it doesn't matter how safe your car is, and how well it handles at speed, clueless people will cause accidents. I Believe 120-130 would be acceptable on long open stretches of freeways with no turnaround spots or turnoffs.. anything higher than that is asking for trouble. Just look at the way people drive when you're on your way home from work next. Some people car barely manage to avoid writing themselves off even doing 60km/h.

[UNR8D]

yes but 60km/h in peek hour is alot different to 170 on a straight open road, and after doing plenty of highway travel on interstate road's their are plenty that are safe to do so maybe not legaly thou lol.

ever driven an E36 m3 at speeds? if not then its hard to discribe how stable the car really is at that speed, im not condoneing what this guy did but if he was in a commodore (not that it would do 250) it would be a different ballgame

for all those that think he couldnt afford an M3 i could have brought an E36 for mid 20's a few months back I do have dealers licance thou, its affordable for me and im 21.

[buickman]

Originally Posted by INJECTED_250

I So they have never done 140? on a public road .... Which is enuf to loose youre ticket .YEAH RIGHT. Id say 95% of the people on here have done 150+ on a public road... at one point in there life. More than likely country roads
The only thing is theres good spots and bad spots... ie 60 km zones. On a dead straight road with no side streets or drive ways (county) its a fairly harmless act, doing that ИИИИ in 60 k zone is crazy.
Edited (and before i get 200 pms from the do gooders on here my speedo in the avitar is like that cose ive got 3.7's gears witha 308 spedo gear :> )

I don't now about 95% going over a 150km on public roads but most would have done it once in thier lifetime on H/ways. But the stretch in station st Boxhill sth was absolute maddness & he deserves to cop the full penalty as well as the peanut in the BMW with a passanger on board that failed to stop.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by FPVGT

Insane speeds on public roads are dangerous but i suppose a lot of us do it without really thinking about it when it's too late.

i sincerely doubt that's true. How on earth can you not think about it at the time ? From being on this forum i've discovered that i'm NOT the only one who respects other people's lives when on the road, which i found amazing, but very refreshing. It's good to see so many enthusiasts who have a little grey matter as well as a little passion. This in effect washes off on those in this forum who may NOT be quite so controlled, like a positive influence.

[HOON69]

i can name at least a dozen or so members of FFAU in both NSW and QLD whom i have personally seen doing these kinda speeds in built up areas and hwys etc and some whom are fairly "high" up in these parts too ;)

im guilty of the odd speeding incident and i aint proud of them and since the "biggy" havent even attempted it again

so dont preach ppl like this should be locked up cause im sure theres idiots you know in your lives whom risk everyone elses in a similar way


bmw does a few kmh more then me and my old car was older and 99% cheaper
talk about a POS!
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[XA-Coupe]

Some interesting attitudes around here.
I think people need to remember.. we don't live in Europe so why the hell do people kep on comparing our rules and attitudes to them ??

[alesia]

no one on this forum i doubt can say they have never exceeded the speed limit,
i am not justifying either of them.....

There is a time and a place for stuff like that , and personal judgement and common sense is something that everyone has and should excerise..

Well theres my 2 cents

[jspec_sti]

Originally Posted by Dauphin

Was a typical AUIII XR8 220 speed limiter set to 180kph?

Ummm... they don't have a 180kph speed limiter. I won't say any more.