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05-03-2020, 07:34 PM | #31 | ||
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Needed to get some gyprocking work done. At the same time I asked the guy to patch 2 holes in the ceiling on the rear balcony. The roofer needed to inspect where water was leaking through.
No worries - walk through the house, point out exactly what needed doing and the 2 holes that needed repairing. How hard could it be? I'm at work, boss calls me to confirm that the workers have started. Confirmed the work we agreed to as well as the 2 holes out the back. Come home to find that they had patched up the 2 holes in the rumpus that were cut out by the AC guy for manhole installation. Boss is Middle Eastern, workers Chinese.. What could go wrong? If I ever build again I will never leave the site and watch every worker like a hawk. Everything is a 'misunderstanding' when they screw up. Boss tried to blame me for not being there as well... I can just see him now. 'Yeah boys, the bulkheads above the robes and the 2 ceiling holes at the back of the house'...
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05-03-2020, 07:46 PM | #32 | ||
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Sadly, the experience doesn’t surprise me. Courtesy, commonsense and an idea of building being a team exercise - they’re all gone.
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05-03-2020, 08:27 PM | #33 | |||
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05-03-2020, 08:49 PM | #34 | |||
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Tell me, what is wrong with this picture? What? They are different colours you say? The top lighter colour is the original tile. Tilers had already laid several rooms. They forgot to send the last 15 boxes with the original delivery. No worries, when the ute is doing a delivery in my area in the next few days they can drop by. So they did, tilers start helping to unload... I bet had I not turned up they would have started laying them right along the lighter ones.
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05-03-2020, 09:24 PM | #36 | ||
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Absolutely.
This has been screwing my crook mate’s workplace, they are a good sized developer but a minnow compared to someone like (say) Mirvac. Stock to hand, set aside, evaporated as wholesalers’ incoming supplies dried up - it will have gone to finish projects for the heavy hitters, guaranteed. |
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05-03-2020, 09:26 PM | #37 | |||
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The 2 shades you see are different colours. When they sent the ute back they returned with the wrapped pallet I saw the previous week. Just ridiculous.... But yes, the same mob tried to charge me for stuff they knew they couldn't deliver in the timeframe I asked for. You learn a lot when you do this stuff mostly on your own... Sent from my LG-M700 using Tapatalk
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08-03-2020, 10:58 AM | #39 | ||
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A different job, someone else’s screw-ups:
Comments: 1. You attach the cistern to the pan before setting it down, there’s no excuse for not shimming it to finish with a 5mm wall gap (max) to white silicone fill, and building up the base with white cement, white sand mortar. You could even rake this out slightly and come back to glaze the mortar with a layer of white silicone. 2. The inlet has been set so low in the cutout that the float (inlet) valve can’t be adjusted any further up, or removed for service without unscrewing the cistern stop. Both these issues as presented, are unprofessional, the second is - to my perspective - dishonest, as it is not really in a practically serviceable state. I feel for people who get told “that’s how it is” and pay up. |
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08-03-2020, 11:51 AM | #40 | |||
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No.2 what normally happens here is a change in spec to the floor coverings - the worst ones are a change fron vinyl to tile as the tiles set the pan higher some 15-20mm higher in relation - even a change from ceramic to porcelain can upset the applecart - not that this actually matters in this instance as the flush valve can be set to the other side giving the required clearance anyway Dear to my heart - as a plumber for over 20yrs this was one of the reasons i left the trade
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08-03-2020, 12:06 PM | #41 | ||
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There was ample time available, it wasn’t a “just get it done” job for an office crapper, and the place isn’t yet occupied - bedding the pan would have given the best possible fit (and I agree with you totally about the quality, it’s a good bit “hmm”). It’s like having a special purpose tool in the kit; you break it out when needed but if you don’t have it the results are never going to be ideal.
Changing the inlet valve to the other side would have been commonsense, didn’t happen though. Last edited by Citroënbender; 08-03-2020 at 12:18 PM. |
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08-03-2020, 12:50 PM | #42 | ||
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The pans have their own fixing kits - you do not use mortar
A way around getting the cistern more plumb was to use silicone in conjunction with the gasket and put a packer/shim wherever it was needed It does not matter if there was ample time available, it matters how it was priced which unless the job was done as a charge up (doubt it) then most likely priced to do bare minimum once - that is what leads to the 'thats how it is' mentality because if it was priced allowing for the extra work every man and his dog would easily undercut him and he would never have any work Was this work undertaken direct to client or to main contractor or group housing outfit?
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08-03-2020, 12:51 PM | #43 | ||
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It was effectively “do and charge”.
This was the last job for the same client, to give a idea of where expectations lie. Lots of finicky details you will notice from your time in the trade. Last edited by Citroënbender; 08-03-2020 at 12:56 PM. |
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08-03-2020, 01:12 PM | #44 | ||
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Yeah well, no excuse if done as charge up - let the client know, do it, charge it, everyones happy
All looks fairly standard - not much room to read the paper on that one!
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08-03-2020, 01:14 PM | #45 | ||
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Exactly. The client is happy when things are right, any modest extra cost is forgotten.
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08-03-2020, 10:13 PM | #46 | ||
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10-03-2020, 04:42 PM | #47 | ||
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Yeah looks like the plumber is on a hiding to nothing on that one!
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11-03-2020, 06:28 PM | #48 | ||
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22-04-2020, 04:48 PM | #51 | ||
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That brings you to Problem 2... By the time you add enough mud bedding over the top to stop the pipe flexing, outside floor level will risk exceeding the inside.
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22-04-2020, 04:49 PM | #52 | ||
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Lol - was there to be a verandah or such there?
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22-04-2020, 04:55 PM | #53 | ||
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Can't tell from the photo but is there enough fall in that pipe and if they glue down porcelain pavers are they going to have 100mm to floor height?
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22-04-2020, 04:55 PM | #54 | ||
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CJR: Yep, there was. But they had to delete it at excavation stage - there was plenty of time/opportunity to rough in after that.
Ross - 1/100 if you’re lucky, and nope. We’ve got a problem with “paper builders” in NSW, tertiary qualified and signed off by mates, no trades background or practical experience. These roosters didn’t even know about profile hurdles. |
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22-04-2020, 04:59 PM | #55 | ||
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Typical Sydney stuff, no doubt brilliantly designed by a flash architects office.
Contractor, Can I have the plans, please....? Architect......Here you go........ Contractor....Hum...... plan, road elevation, rear elevation, do you have any working detail drawing to go with that........? Architect..... .No we don't need any and we can visit you onsite and work that out as you build our wonderful cutting edge design. Now go away as I have a very important lunch meeting.
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Everything I do is by eye. As most walls are battered. Level is found siting other roof ridges in the distance if needed.
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22-04-2020, 05:25 PM | #58 | |||
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Lol - i was too tight to buy a laser level, i used a water level setting out a patio on a rental just a few month's ago, true story For work when i was plumbing/drainlaying it was always laser - easy to f that up though if you're a noob - where i work now as qs is more dumpy than laser Am i correct in thinking that the water is still the most accurate??
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Turns out dudes put it up with un-calibrated gear... 99% of people wouldn't know - some just have a real good eye
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