Scottish independence referendum

[ford_17]

I live in Edinburgh...and am a happy No voter!

Lots of proud Scots are also proud to be British!

[marty351]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rozu5hr4oc0

3 pieces of paper in the wrong spot maybe. Illegal voting maybe.
How many registered voters turned out to vote compared to actual votes counted was not mentioned. Looks a bit sus though. We shall see...

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by ford man xf

And Australia going "independant" would change what exactly? I have never understood the arguments for an Australian republic?

Independent. Look, I am English, and I think it's time for even England do away with the monarchy. No, it wouldn't change a whole lot, but the idea of a head of state being through some kind of "special" blood lineage is just outdated and rather silly. Also, it doesn't effect Australia as much as it would affect Scotland. Australia has its own identity regardless of whether or not it's still part of the commonwealth. Scotland is pretty much Far North England. I supported the separation. But the other side seems to think that's deliberately trying to insult. No, the point is not to insult or start a war, it's about doing what people think is best for the land on which they reside. I can't call it "their" land because we're all here on borrowed time.

[marty351]

I'd like to know of a good example of when a country has gained any benefit from becoming a republic. The U.S. and the decleration of independence is one, but was written over 200 years ago and would never be used in a modern constitution for the personal freedoms it contains. In Ausrtalia we have 2 rights- to a trial by jury and freedom of religion. (and powers that be want to get rid of trial by jury), so where does that leave a new republic constitution?
Better the devil you know.

[castellan]

Originally Posted by marty351

I'd like to know of a good example of when a country has gained any benefit from becoming a republic. The U.S. and the decleration of independence is one, but was written over 200 years ago and would never be used in a modern constitution for the personal freedoms it contains. In Ausrtalia we have 2 rights- to a trial by jury and freedom of religion. (and powers that be want to get rid of trial by jury), so where does that leave a new republic constitution?
Better the devil you know.

They also want to get rid of religion. that just shows how miss led they are, but there are many so called religions today and sadly the main ones are falling apart with the hopeless PC trash.

We are going down the path of what Russia was, and Putin says what blind moronic fools we in UK, USA and Australia are, Russia has just come out of the septic tank and we in the west are on the path of going into a septic tank.

Funny thing is that every failed thing Europe has did we have to experiment with the same stupidity.

Political Correctness is the work of Satan, it's evil and just down right just stupid nonsense.

I think the Scottish people have always looked down on the pommy as does the Welsh and the Irish for good reasons but nowadays I think it's better to be united just as us Aussie should remain united with the mother land. but then again the Queen is to old now and has given up and let her minders take control it all, so it's heading down the popularity path just like that foolish idiot moron Di, just pathetic and hopeless trash. where is Opria

[cheap]

I feel sorry for the English as they are once again disenfranchised!

The English should have been allowed to vote if they want to get rid of Scotland. It would have been an overwhelming yes vote.

Thankfully the Scottish people could see through the BS of independence, they were being steered towards being a big loyalist/socialist failure.

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by castellan

They also want to get rid of religion. that just shows how miss led they are, but there are many so called religions today and sadly the main ones are falling apart with the hopeless PC trash.

We are going down the path of what Russia was, and Putin says what blind moronic fools we in UK, USA and Australia are, Russia has just come out of the septic tank and we in the west are on the path of going into a septic tank.

Funny thing is that every failed thing Europe has did we have to experiment with the same stupidity.

Political Correctness is the work of Satan, it's evil and just down right just stupid nonsense.

I think the Scottish people have always looked down on the pommy as does the Welsh and the Irish for good reasons but nowadays I think it's better to be united just as us Aussie should remain united with the mother land. but then again the Queen is to old now and has given up and let her minders take control it all, so it's heading down the popularity path just like that foolish idiot moron Di, just pathetic and hopeless trash. where is Opria

Freedom from religion is a great thing, keep it out of politics.
Or else we can become like those nutty yanks..

Russia is America mark II now, a class of super rich in control and the rest plebs.

[BHDOGS]

Bit of Stockholm syndrome at work.

[Maka]

The current political / military machinations in Ukraine, Middle East, Asia (China, Japan etc) could've actually helped the Scottish Independence NO vote. If the timing of the referendum was in more peaceful times maybe the result might have been closer? Long bow?

cheers, Maka

[castellan]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Freedom from religion is a great thing, keep it out of politics.
Or else we can become like those nutty yanks..

Russia is America mark II now, a class of super rich in control and the rest plebs.

Politics is just what ? Without foundations ?

Our nations heritage was it only prospered due to it's Christian values as the foundations have to do with our political foundations. if you take that away then you just have a dictatorship, Communism or some other rag tag narrow minded short sighted foolishness.

Political Correctness might save us all ? as how many people nowadays object to it's lofty position now controlling our politics our schools and work place with total vengeance on all who oppose it's filth.

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by castellan

Politics is just what ? Without foundations ?

Our nations heritage was it only prospered due to it's Christian values as the foundations have to do with our political foundations. if you take that away then you just have a dictatorship, Communism or some other rag tag narrow minded short sighted foolishness.

Political Correctness might save us all ? as how many people nowadays object to it's lofty position now controlling our politics our schools and work place with total vengeance on all who oppose it's filth.

I suspect "values" have been around a lot longer than current religions, but you are certainly welcome to your opinion.

[BHDOGS]

Nopes hes right first came god then jesus then man then values early cave men didnt have any values at all ofcourse if your religious there is no cave man? so i guess ahhh this hurts my head.

[Syndrome]

Unionists in Scotland behaving like unionists in Ireland.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...george-4290949

[BHDOGS]

It is rather amusing 45percent of them voted against being part of the uk didnt they learn **** all from ireland all you need is 10 percent to take up arms to be independent and welcome to ireland 2. Its lunacy to suggest that a minority should live up the yolk of a ten percent majority rule. Especially with how much England has been ******* scotland.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by ford man xf

And Australia going "independant" would change what exactly? I have never understood the arguments for an Australian republic?

Ahm ....

Australia is Independant and has been since 1901.

[BHDOGS]

independent of what tho instead of one person telling us what to do we get to choose between two groups of people who arnt different ruled by a system which is heavy slanted towards them ever been unelected telling us what to do democracy especially two party democracy has to be one of the greatest cons of man.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by BHDOGS

independent of what tho instead of one person telling us what to do we get to choose between two groups of people who arnt different ruled by a system which is heavy slanted towards them ever been unelected telling us what to do democracy especially two party democracy has to be one of the greatest cons of man.

You're free to start another party.

Go on then ....

[BHDOGS]

Ah the catch cry of the democracy defenders it's all so easy start a party spend millions like Clive get elected and change the country why the system is so easy hahahha

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by BHDOGS

Ah the catch cry of the democracy defenders it's all so easy start a party spend millions like Clive get elected and change the country why the system is so easy hahahha

Yeah it's much easier in a democracy to get on a Forum and sook about not being Independent.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by BHDOGS

independent of what tho instead of one person telling us what to do we get to choose between two groups of people who arnt different ruled by a system which is heavy slanted towards them ever been unelected telling us what to do democracy especially two party democracy has to be one of the greatest cons of man.

Your answer or solution to a better system!!!

[castellan]

Originally Posted by BHDOGS

independent of what tho instead of one person telling us what to do we get to choose between two groups of people who arnt different ruled by a system which is heavy slanted towards them ever been unelected telling us what to do democracy especially two party democracy has to be one of the greatest cons of man.

I understand where you are coming from bro, but lets hope the Scots get something out of all this for the future, maybe a stronger state like powers.

I would vote for a free Queensland tomorrow as we can look after ourselves with out any halfwit from Canberra swallowing our money like it's no tomorrow and feeding all them fat cats, as all we need is a small central gov powers not the big bro dictating to us.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by trublu

Your answer or solution to a better system!!!

An evil dictatorship lead by me.

It will be better for me but I don't know about you guys

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

An evil dictatorship lead by me.

It will be better for me but I don't know about you guys

Dictatorships, fascism , feudalism, communism, capitalism etc. are all good for the ruling elite.

[bungarra]

[QUOTE=Big Damo;5218325]An evil dictatorship lead by me.

It will be better for me but I don't know about you guys :yelrotfl

What can I say but....

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

An evil dictatorship lead by me.

It will be better for me but I don't know about you guys

If you are any thing like that avatar of yours God help us.

[ford man xf]

Originally Posted by Barraxr8

Ahm ....

Australia is Independant and has been since 1901.

I'm assuming your referring to Federation?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by trublu

If you are any thing like that avatar of yours God help us.

Nah man, last time that guy sold any furniture was probably 1989 .

[castellan]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

An evil dictatorship lead by me.

It will be better for me but I don't know about you guys

I don't know if truly it would be that good to be a dictator once you become one. unless you were mental, well that would have to help to start with.

Does anyone know of a dictator you would of liked to be ?

One would have to be a nut to want to be even a PM for a start, in my books.

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by castellan

Does anyone know of a dictator you would of liked to be ?

Colonel Sanders

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Colonel Sanders