28th June 2014 - 100 years since the gunshot which led to the death of hundreds of millions of people

[mik]

Originally Posted by Dash_XR

As long as we can maintain our borders and stay friends with everyone in our region without picking sides we should be ok mate. I believe religion is far more dangerous in poorer developing countries where the people don't really have anything else to believe in/get them through the day.

We also have to just face up to the fact that some places will never stop the fighting no matter what the rest of the world does.

I am a bit skeptical that the dills that control our collective destiny's(religious, political, or others) will grow brains , and i agree totally some dudes will never stop fighting, but we live in hope.

[ford man xf]

The way the Allies handled the aftermath of WWI had a big influence on the beginnings of WWII

[Dash_XR]

Originally Posted by mik

I am a bit skeptical that the dills that control our collective destiny's(religious, political, or others) will grow brains , and i agree totally some dudes will never stop fighting, but we live in hope.

Could be worse imagine being somewhere like the Gaza strip and having fighter jets bombing your house and family every day.

[ford man xf]

Originally Posted by Dash_XR

Could be worse imagine being somewhere like the Gaza strip and having fighter jets bombing your house and family every day.

Or Palestinian militia firing rockets indiscriminately at Israeli homes, businesses and streets.....

[Dash_XR]

Difference is they are terrorists so you don't expect them to value human life.

That's a prime example of one of those conflicts that will never end.

[zdcol71]

Originally Posted by mik

Im not so sure about the religious influence on the decline Dash, when one country of another origin sends over 93 billion dollars(yes i said billion) in one hit to set up they're own "special schools", one has to be thinking...... hmmm, perhaps they are not really planning on integrating into our way of life so much?
as for being surrounded by country's with populations full of happiness,
i dunno mate, perhaps im just a paranoid suspicious silly old fart (please dun call me old)?
but there seems to be an awful lot of soldiers in some of these country's not all that far from us,
perhaps i got it wrong, and they really just like being in uniform (plays village people ,soldiers all jiving), of course i could be wrong.

Just asking, 1) what is a "country of another origin", and 2) source, please, for "93 billion dollars to set up they're(sic) own "special schools"??

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by ford man xf

Or Palestinian militia firing rockets indiscriminately at Israeli homes, businesses and streets.....

"Palestinian militia".
IMHO as someone who has visited the Middle East and has Jewish lineage, Israel has one of the most sophisticated military in the world. The Palestinians have civilians firing home made rockets. To compare them as equals is laughable, but as has been said for a long time;" in war truth is the first casualty"(Aeschylus525 BC - 456 BC)

Yes we are so lucky living in Australia, many living here have NFI about history.

[Dash_XR]

Funnily enough I'm pretty sure the British Empire was responsible for that for that whole mess too.

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by Dash_XR

Funnily enough I'm pretty sure the British Empire was responsible for that for that whole mess too.

Funnily enough the British Empire was responsible for Australia’s early history. To lay what Australia has become at the feet of the British Empire seems to dismiss what the rest of us have been up to.

Similarly in the Middle East, the British Empire tried to make the best of a bad situation. To suggest what the Middle East has become is directly a response to the actions of the British Empire sixty years ago, is drawing a long bow IMHO.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

"Palestinian militia".
IMHO as someone who has visited the Middle East and has Jewish lineage, Israel has one of the most sophisticated military in the world. The Palestinians have civilians firing home made rockets. To compare them as equals is laughable, but as has been said for a long time;" in war truth is the first casualty"(Aeschylus525 BC - 456 BC)

Yes we are so lucky living in Australia, many living here have NFI about history.

"Don't believe everything you read on the internet" (Abraham Lincoln - 1996)

[Dash_XR]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

Funnily enough the British Empire was responsible for Australia’s early history. To lay what Australia has become at the feet of the British Empire seems to dismiss what the rest of us have been up to.

Similarly in the Middle East, the British Empire tried to make the best of a bad situation. To suggest what the Middle East has become is directly a response to the actions of the British Empire sixty years ago, is drawing a long bow IMHO.

Two different things.

[ford man xf]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

"Palestinian militia".
and has Jewish lineage

What's that got anything to do with the ongoing conflict in the Middle East?

Originally Posted by Work Horse

"Palestinian militia".
Palestinians have civilians firing home made rockets.

Hence the term "Militia"

Originally Posted by Work Horse

To compare them as equals is laughable

What an interesting concept, allow rockets to be fired indiscriminately onto your citizens and just sit on your hands.

[GasoLane]

Can we get back on topic and keep this war zone away from the Middle East please

[ford man xf]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Can we get back on topic and keep this war zone away from the Middle East please

In reality it is on topic because what happened in the lead up to WWI can easily happen in the Middle East dragging the world into another major war.

[Auslandau]

...... a car forum isn't the place really, even if it is in the bar.

Not going to end well ........