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13-11-2017, 04:51 PM | #31 | ||
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I watched the Channel 10 News on Saturday and they said she was seriously injured. My daughter was watching the Channel 7 News later and I overheard she had died. My heart broke at that news, I have a daughter turning 8 soon.
Rest in Peace little girl, condolences to the family. Like others have said, I hope something positive will come out of this tragedy.
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13-11-2017, 05:17 PM | #32 | ||
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Terrible accident and i feel so much for her family, especially her parents.
However that's what it was - an accident. If you are going to knee jerk and restrict the age limit, are you going to do so for all motorsport, in fact all sport in general? MotoX can start at 2yrs old and proper racing at 6. Carting is similar. Obviously precautions are taken in all cases and training is vital. But you cant protect anyone from all accidents and consequences. This is not to say though that there couldn't be ways to improve safety at the track, and I'm sure that will be investigated. IMO we already have way too much nanny state as it is. Stuff I remember doing 80kph on my pushbike when i was 9 or 10. Used to race the big boys for fun on the weekends. Came off quite a few times and it was only luck that I didn't hit a guide post with my head or something. I say hat's off to the parents that get out and support their kids in their chosen sport, well done to you all. Cheers, |
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13-11-2017, 05:46 PM | #33 | ||
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True, but you can minimise putting kids in harm's way. I mean we're the adults and they're the children. Maybe there's just some activities that can't/shouldn't physically be undertaken by children until they've developed sufficiently to be able to perform them competently?
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13-11-2017, 05:59 PM | #34 | |||
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Consider how many kids die in pools each year? How many at the beach? How many on carnival rides etc? Got to say I would rather her be in the drag racer she was in than in the cars driven by parents on the phone. Lots of ways of looking at things and lots of opinions, most with merit. But knee jerks are just that. Cheers, |
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13-11-2017, 06:02 PM | #35 | ||
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Lost for words. R.I.P Little Angel.
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13-11-2017, 06:04 PM | #36 | ||
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Question that first comes to my mind is how can top fuel have accidents approaching 300mph and survive but a girl driving a car only capable of about 75mph can't protect her in an accident?
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13-11-2017, 06:30 PM | #37 | ||
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I can only imagine what their going through, I couldn't comprehend loosing my daughter at any age.
I must admit at first I thought 8 was a bit young but then I thought back to when I was a 9 year old kid trying to squeeze every bit of speed I could out of a Honda 50 without even a helmet on.
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13-11-2017, 07:00 PM | #38 | ||
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Many more kids die in backyard swimming pools usually due to inattention by adults. This is a sport that has been going for many years where the parents and other adults are paying attention to what the kids do with out another incident of this kind. Parents and others assisting and helping the kids all the way certainly beats the hell out of faulty pool gates, fences etc and a lack of attention to what the kids are up to! RIP.
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13-11-2017, 07:01 PM | #39 | ||
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Junior drag racing in WA has been suspended -
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-1...66?pfmredir=sm cheers, Maka
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13-11-2017, 07:21 PM | #40 | ||
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I think the key thing there is suspended whilst o2loce are investigating.
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14-11-2017, 08:11 AM | #41 | ||
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Reading "Accident" makes me sick to the stomach.
There is someone at fault for the loss of this little girls life. I can see a massive review of the sport and a legal case.
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14-11-2017, 08:55 AM | #42 | |||
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Sad as it is it was just a freak accident. Kids do way more dangerous activities than this all the time, and yes accidents happen. |
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14-11-2017, 09:30 AM | #43 | |||
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Fingers MUST be pointed in all situations. Junior drag racing has been around 20 years or more. First death that I know of. Just wait for the cotton wool brigade to start wailing...... |
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14-11-2017, 09:50 AM | #44 | ||
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Very sad, but riding to school would be a higher risk. You here about kids getting hit on bikes all the time, but they don’t ban bikes.
I will wait to see what comes out of it, but listening to radio last night the media seems to have made up their opinions already. They were going on about how powerful it must have been, without knowing absolutely nothing about the sport. |
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14-11-2017, 11:09 AM | #45 | |||
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Kids do risky stuff in their own time privately but when something goes wrong at a organised event thats a bit different due to a number of reasons ie: insurance for instance. Imo let the authorities get on with the job & see what they find. cheers, Maka
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14-11-2017, 11:59 AM | #46 | ||
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Whether you want to blame someone or not, things dont just happen for no reason.
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14-11-2017, 12:49 PM | #47 | |||
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I agree, Jnr Drags is safer than other kids activities/sports. But being a motor sport, just wait for the lead hammer to come crushing down.
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14-11-2017, 01:21 PM | #48 | |||
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14-11-2017, 01:54 PM | #49 | ||
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From what I have read, the accident itself was mostly the fault of the young girl, she took the wrong exit off the track.
This being the case she was traveling too fast for this exit and the dragster couldn't take the turn. Unfortunately due to extremely bad luck she collected the beginning of the barrier after the opening hitting this barrier right at the point of where she was sitting. At the time the speed was estimated at about 30mph. It is very fitting that an inquiry be held as even though this was a freak accident things need to be looked at to prevent a further occurrence or even a similar accident. Things I would want considered are:- 1 how do we improve cockpit protection in Junior Dragsters, particular side impacts. 2 can the barrier openings be made safer - perhaps looking at something like the safer barriers in Nascar. 3 should the gate have even been open during that particular run. 4 was the girl given the correct info not to use that exit. IMO non of this should be about apportioning blame, but rather to make the sport safer for all competitors. This may be in the way of physical protection and/or procedural regulations. From what I understand that is also the view of the parents. |
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14-11-2017, 01:54 PM | #50 | ||
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I believe she turned into the exit, the front wheels skipped and the car came into contact with the concrete wall which has an angled piece of iron to protect it.
My heart sank when I heard the news, just can't get her face out of my mind. |
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14-11-2017, 02:15 PM | #51 | ||
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By definition, an accident is where the outcome is NOT reasonably foreseeable by an ordinary person. And many ordinary people would say that this outcome was not reasonably foreseeable.
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14-11-2017, 03:46 PM | #52 | |||
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14-11-2017, 04:07 PM | #53 | ||
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In Sydney last week, a 51 year old lost control of her car, crashing through a school car park and coming to rest after ploughing in to a classroom. This resulted in the loss of another two 8 year old children. Many years ago. I was a passenger in a horrific car accident involving loss of life. People say things happen for a reason and you take the positive out of the situation and move on.
I cannot see how anything positive can come out of the loss of such young lives. Let it be a reminder to all of us to love each other a bit more & when you drive, drive sober & ignore the phone. God bless these three young children and may their deaths not be in vain. |
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14-11-2017, 05:07 PM | #54 | |||
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14-11-2017, 06:25 PM | #55 | ||
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I understood the kiddies drag cars used a different exit just after the 400 meter mark on the track. Looking at Google earth overhead view of the Perth Motorplex there does appear to be an exit there with open gates and if this is the case and is what was used, I wonder if the problem may be in part that it:
a) might be more difficult to see/judge where this exit is; and b) unlike the end of track exit, it requires a left turn off the track that may be hard to judge for inexperienced kids in such a way to make it a smooth turn rather than a more dangerous sharp 90 degree exit turn. Of course this is just speculation and it's really best left to the official investigators to tell us what actually happened.
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14-11-2017, 08:59 PM | #56 | ||
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there is so much incorrect info being given here, this thread should be locked
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14-11-2017, 10:13 PM | #57 | ||
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14-11-2017, 10:46 PM | #58 | ||
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I wouldn't be upset if the thread was locked and/or deleted and/or even my posts deleted as google search on the issue brings up this thread in the top 5 and there is a risk the media will start reading and reporting the posts as gospel. The family is doubtless stressed enough without media speculation. I wrongly assumed that this thread would not get such a high profile and anything posted however speculative would be innocuous. On reflection that's seems not to be the case.
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15-11-2017, 09:34 AM | #59 | |||
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Only speculation I see is here in some of the responses posted on this forum. Maybe all of this should be deleted after all. |
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15-11-2017, 09:51 AM | #60 | ||
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I don't think it should be locked, sure, a lot of what has been written is speculative but that's because we only have media reports to go by.
This is the perfect demographic from which to get a true idea of peoples feelings about junior drag events because as enthusiasts who are also parents in many cases, this stuff is very relevant. I'd rather read the honest opinions of people who have regularly attended meets than some politician who is just looking to appeasing the electorate for self preservation. Its a terribly sad situation and my heart goes out to this little girl, her family and all those who were involved in the fight for her life but life must go on and lessons learnt. Would I be comfortable with my little girl piloting one of these machines, probably not, but if its something she'd grown up around and her dream to compete in, i'd support her right or wrong. My2c. |
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