Regulated charge control - Page 2

rondeo · 09-03-2016, 03:12 PM

Thanks. I need more time!

rondeo · 09-03-2016, 06:54 PM

Cost: Varta F18 $370 (special order, inc freight). Century $195.

rondeo · 11-03-2016, 02:06 PM

Re: Battery Management System reset.

I enquired if it were actually available on Ford IDS. I asked at 3 Ford dealers which resulted in 1 yes 1 no and 1 maybe, depending on VIN. Thanks to the guys at the service desk for their patience, obviously wearing thin.

I was quoted $140 to plug it in and look.

rondeo · 12-03-2016, 11:21 AM

Does my car require a BMS reset?

After some Googling, at last I think there's an answer:

http://www.centurybatteries.com.au/C...es-V15-001.pdf

http://www.centurybatteries.com.au/resources/yu-fit

Where the vehicle is listed as not requiring Yu-Fit, I take it to mean no BMS reset is required.
So not on 2007-2014 but yes on 2015.

http://www.centurybatteries.com.au/c...ium-batter.pdf

http://www.batteryworld.com.au/News/...-Costly-Charge

rondeo · 12-03-2016, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rondeo

Thanks Damo, I have a car with the usual battery and it works fine, DIN75 LMF. I'm happy because the car goes without any problem.

What interests me is the detail. To me the question is just how is the situation is changed by using the 'wrong' battery.

Academic, but interesting.

See also:

http://www.centurybatteries.com.au/c...ge-control.pdf

ope126 · 12-03-2016, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rondeo

Does my car require a BMS reset?

After some Googling, at last I think there's an answer:

http://www.centurybatteries.com.au/C...es-V15-001.pdf

http://www.centurybatteries.com.au/resources/yu-fit

Where the vehicle is listed as not requiring Yu-Fit, I take it to mean no BMS reset is required.
So not on 2007-2014 but yes on 2015.

http://www.centurybatteries.com.au/c...ium-batter.pdf

http://www.batteryworld.com.au/News/...-Costly-Charge

Don't be confused with Auto Stop / Start technology.
Most of the above resources relate to Auto Stop / Start tecchnology and as you have already mentioned that has nothing to do with MA - MC Mondeo's as they do not have this technology. The MD is different again as with many other new cars as they have this technology.

In my PREVIOUS VW Passat 125TDI Highline we had to use VCDS to code when I changed the OEM battery for a Varta E39 AGM Stop / Start Battery.

ope126 · 12-03-2016, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rondeo

See also:

http://www.centurybatteries.com.au/c...ge-control.pdf

Now your on the money, this relates to Ford's Smart Charge System.

However, it is still funny that the reference to SmartDrive Technology is only available in the Ultra Hi Performance and Hi Performance range. Both don't offer a case size to fit a Diesel Mondeo...

In the PDF, Century makes a reference to 2006 onward Holden Commodores, so when you search for what batteries they recommend they are both Ultra Hi Performance and Hi Performance range (with the reference to SmartDrive Technology).

So according to Century, Regulated Charge Control requires the propitiatory "SmartDrive Technology" but they do not make a battery in this range that suits the Mondeo (TDCi anyway).

So move on from Century, look for a Silver Calcium battery (as specified from Ford for their Smart Charge Technology) and you will be right!

However at the end of the day, fit whatever battery you want! As long as the car starts - who cares!!!

But for me, that is why I have a Varta Silver Calcium battery in my Mondeo! (just like I do in my Passat - althought it is an AGM Stop / Start battery)!

rondeo · 12-03-2016, 05:50 PM

I posted the wrong link for the list of vehicles by Yuasa.

This is the correct link:

https://batterylookup.yuasa.co.uk/wo.../name/yw-yufit

My apologies.

Since many vehicles listed without stop start still require a reset I concluded that a reset sometimes applies to regulated charge systems and is not required for Mondeo 2007-2014.

By the way, the article on silver calcium batteries contains a contradiction on page 2, where at it is first said silver calcium batteries have high rates and later low rates of self discharge. Ho hum.

NZ XR6 · 12-03-2016, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rondeo

By the way, the article on silver calcium batteries contains a contradiction on page 2, where at it is first said silver calcium batteries have high rates and later low rates of self discharge. Ho hum.

They have a higher self discharge rate, which is one of the reasons why many manufacturers have moved to other technologies.