Pilot's Eye View - What it's like - Page 2

347_XR8 · 13-02-2006, 01:03 PM

My old man has told me of a few pilots that have more take off's then landings in the logs. Never a good thing.

Tote · 13-02-2006, 02:38 PM

The nerd within noted the vaxstation that they printed the report from, long live VMS
Regards,
Tote

devilracer_01 · 13-02-2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

The aircraft will go where you point it........

Not in a crosswind it wont it pushes the plane around.

devilracer_01 · 13-02-2006, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gozza

crosswinds aren't a problem untill there greater than your planes reccomended tolerance

Yes that's true then it becomes wind sheer.

**Full Noise** · 13-02-2006, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by devilracer_01

Yes that's true then it becomes wind sheer.

What? you might want to check that.
Wind shear is when you have an incredibly strong wind pushing you straight down.

Cheers, Danny

gozza · 13-02-2006, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by devilracer_01

Not in a crosswind it wont it pushes the plane around.

mate have you even got a pilots license?

devilracer_01 · 13-02-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Full Noise

What? you might want to check that.
Wind shear is when you have an incredibly strong wind pushing you straight down.

Cheers, Danny

Wind Sheer is a severe crosswind but as you say forces the plane downwards, not something you want to encounter so close to the ground on final appoach.

devilracer_01 · 13-02-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gozza

mate have you even got a pilots license?

No I dont but as I said Im a bit of an avaition buff.

flappist · 13-02-2006, 07:50 PM

Before this turns into a flamefest...

There are quite a number of pilots who are members of this forum in all classes; PPL, CPL and ATPL, many of whom hold or have held instructor ratings.
Devilracer, I realise you are an enthusiest but if you have not actually been trained in flying, both theory and practical you have about as much idea as the average V8supercar enthusiest has about driving race car.

There is a reason why you need 200 hours total time plus have to pass several theory exams to hold a CPL (equivilent to driving 15-20,000km for your car licence), it is a lot more complex than it looks.
That licence will allow you to fly a single piston engined < 5700kg in visual conditions (not in cloud). To play with multis or on instruments takes a lot more training.

I recommend you quit while you are ahead......

devilracer_01 · 13-02-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Before this turns into a flamefest...

There are quite a number of pilots who are members of this forum in all classes; PPL, CPL and ATPL, many of whom hold or have held instructor ratings.
Devilracer, I realise you are an enthusiest but if you have not actually been trained in flying, both theory and practical you have about as much idea as the average V8supercar enthusiest has about driving race car.

There is a reason why you need 200 hours total time plus have to pass several theory exams to hold a CPL (equivilent to driving 15-20,000km for your car licence), it is a lot more complex than it looks.
That licence will allow you to fly a single piston engined < 5700kg in visual conditions (not in cloud). To play with multis or on instruments takes a lot more training.

I recommend you quit while you are ahead......

Dont think it will turn into a flame feast, just stating what I know, I dont think quiting is the answer either, if I had the money i would love nothing more than to learn to fly, will one day.

flappist · 13-02-2006, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by devilracer_01

Dont think it will turn into a flame feast, just stating what I know, I dont think quiting is the answer either, if I had the money i would love nothing more than to learn to fly, will one day.

Yes but what you are stating is wrong......

devilracer_01 · 13-02-2006, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Yes but what you are stating is wrong......

Okay Ive done some research and discovered that windsheer is only relevent to thunderstorm and heavy rainfall, my mistake please carry on

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Dark Horse · 13-02-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

not crosswinds.. thats how they test the landing gear. They were doing it deliberatly.. which is even more mental!!!

If you're going to provide a 20 year warranty on your aeroplanes you'd want to make sure that your product is practically tested to destruction!

Ghiadude · 14-02-2006, 06:18 AM

so what happens if theres a conveyor belt involved.....LOL

sorry to stir ИИИИ but i HAD to mention it....

gozza · 14-02-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by flappist

There is a reason why you need 200 hours total time plus have to pass several theory exams to hold a CPL (equivilent to driving 15-20,000km for your car licence), it is a lot more complex than it looks.
That licence will allow you to fly a single piston engined < 5700kg in visual conditions (not in cloud). To play with multis or on instruments takes a lot more training.

I recommend you quit while you are ahead......

sorry to be pedantic mate but i think you quoted ppl flight regs

and a single piston airplane won't get you far me thinks lol
single prop
im pretty sure ppl is less that the 5700kg

but regardless of how much knowledge you carry or how well you fly a plane is not the critical issue in the end....you could train a monkey to fly circuits but when the engine fails or a critical decision needs to be made whats going to happen?

flappist · 14-02-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tx3dude

so what happens if theres a conveyor belt involved.....LOL

sorry to stir ИИИИ but i HAD to mention it....

Members get holidays?

Dark Horse · 14-02-2006, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gozza

sorry to be pedantic mate but i think you quoted ppl flight regs

and a single piston airplane won't get you far me thinks lol
single prop
im pretty sure ppl is less that the 5700kg

Flappist is on the mark there mate. It's 40 hours for PPL(A) not 200!

To fly anything more significant requires some of the following ratings for example:

Multi Engine Command Endorsement
Turbine Endorsement
Command Instrument Rating

Some handy ones include:
Night VFR
Dangerous Goods Endorsement

Single piston not getting you far? Spirit of St Louis got Charles Lindbergh across the Atlantic with no worries! j/k

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Originally Posted by gozza

but regardless of how much knowledge you carry or how well you fly a plane is not the critical issue in the end....you could train a monkey to fly circuits but when the engine fails or a critical decision needs to be made whats going to happen?

I think the more knowledge you have the better placed you'll be in making a decision in an unexpected situation. By that stage however, it won't be unexpected you will automatically go ok I need to do this and this and this and so forth.

How you fly is also quite critical I reckon. I recently had the pleasure of meeting Tom Porebenzy who is head of the Experimental Aircaft Association and an accomplished aerobatics pilot. From what I remember of his speech in Sydney on Sunday. As he said it for example: "Always try to land on the numbers, even if you're landing on a long runway, always try to land on the numbers, because one day you will find yourself landing on a really short runway and you have no choice but to land on the numbers. Constantly look at ways to improve your flying..."