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Old 01-02-2012, 06:47 PM   #31
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That is really bad mate. I am glad that you scared the mongrels off.
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Old 01-02-2012, 06:49 PM   #32
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Thats terrible mate...It's one thing to try and gain entry when the place is empty, but when you're home !!!

Not sure if it's a Perth thing or not, but I heard a similar story on here about a guy in a Perth suburb, Bibra or Bribie Lake (or something) had his FG XR6T stolen and used as a getaway car.
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Old 01-02-2012, 06:53 PM   #33
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Scarey indeed! Glad to hear they didnt make it in.
They are certainly very game or very stupid.
Sadly we have to cage ourselves in our homes these days, I would be investing in sercurity screens all round after that.

I recently invested in a sercurity camera for my garage after my mobile phone was stolen (but tools, parts and car wasnt touched) and even got another dog (as my other one was a big baby).

Baseball bat nearby would be handy! and always keep ya mobile next to you when you sleep and fully charged. A chat with the kids too to tell them to hide under the beds etc.... should anything like this ever occur again.
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bloody cheeky mongrels, when your home is robbed or ransacked, it certainly makes you feel violated in your own home(been there), even without the attempted assault, Atec77`s idea to make your house more secure for your own peace of mind sounds like good sence, at least your all ok .
i had someone try and break in while i was on the toilet, i was actually watching them while i was on it, i go in the dark if the smell didn't drive them away me sneaking up and pulling the blind back certainly did, and in my deepest Barry White voice telling them to f off, i was only 12

i wasn't scared i was more angry about someone trying to breakin than anything else. your house being violated is not something to take lightly.

one of my fathers friends actually killed a guy that broke into his house, this guy was around 60 but had been in the army and was built like a brick ****house. a guy broke in to his place, the crim had a knife, dad's mate disarmed him other guy kept going for him, he found a holding spot for the knife in his body cops came, he went to court over it but didn't get jail time. that was about 10 years ago, not sure how it would be now.
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Shocking story mate, that must have been a horrible thing to live through.

As a word of warning to others I will share my own that our family had.

My mother was a victim of a home invasion, however she actually caught him in the act!

Walked into our home, saw a broken window, then as she walked into the lounge she found my playstation, TV's, VCR's etc all bundled up, then walked into my room where the mongrel was getting more stuff ready to steal.

She ran up to him and grabbed him by the wrists and started screaming at the top of her voice, to which he finally yelled "If you let me go I won't hurt you"... she screamed for a bit more, thought about it, let him go and yelled every obscenity in the book after him.

A dozen priceless pieces of family jewlery went missing but nothing more. When the cop *finally* rocked up they told her she's lucky he didn't beat the tar out of her or kill her.

If you EVER get home and find a window broken call the police FIRST
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At least you and your family are unhurt. I had my XR6T stolen while I slept when they broke in and took the keys. I have since upgraded security immensely and still take extra care to lock up and try to be "crim aware".
Perhaps time for a security upgrade?
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Sorry to hear about this ordeal but glad no one was hurt.

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(The emergency operator was busy asking me all these dumb questions while these two ******* tried to bash the door down with me leaning up against the door bracing it.)
This part has me miffed. What more do they need to know other than you need immediate police attendance, you tell them there are armed offenders trying to break in, and your address. Surely they could have heard the commotion going on
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Should be allowed to shoot the f@#$$rs. This happened to a guy in Melb a few years ago. He shot the intruder and was prosecuted because he chose to use a .308 he had in his gun locker rather than the .22 he had.
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Should be allowed to shoot the f@#$$rs. This happened to a guy in Melb a few years ago. He shot the intruder and was prosecuted because he chose to use a .308 he had in his gun locker rather than the .22 he had.
Better to deal with the police and court than a crazy crim
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Man that was intense. Good work holding the fort, glad the family are a-okay.
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That's terrible to hear, I'm sorry it happened to you. It is unfortunate when you can't even have a nice car for fear of something like this happening.

I have security lights all over the front of the house, a big street light out front, and this in the backyard:



Generally helps deter people, and there isn't much that gets past him. Even people walking up the street will have him poking his head over the fence.
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I have security lights all over the front of the house, a big street light out front, and this in the backyard:
I hope that those bones don't belong to the postie that went missing up your way?

To the OP. I have a Swann CCTV system around the house that runs to a 150GB hard drive. Always good to check on things when you've been out and something's been moved around the house.
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bugger me, that aint right. they musta been off their heads on the good stuff. if they tried that with my falcon they would have still been tryin to start the thing when the cops got there.lol. i dunno what i would do. i have guns but to pull em out ? . i dunno , maybe..... Lost my navman to the thieves 2 doors down. cant prove it but ...... since then i have 2 cameras watching the front of my house.
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sorry to hear, its crazy how cocky they are getting. My rents had simular 3 weeks ago. They went to bed and woke the next day to find wallets, car and motor bike keys missing. Im very thankful that my parents slept throu it in a way as you never know what some coked up lowlife will do when you startle them.

In both this and my parents case end of the day car's and property can be replaced, and to be glad loved ones are stil with us
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a hidden kill switch in a high performance car is invaluable.

you know where it is, douchebags dont

or leave the dog in the back seat lol

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Old 01-02-2012, 09:58 PM   #46
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Its a scary thought that things like this happen. Im moving out with the missus soon and i wont even consider a property unless it has a lock up garage. To think that we are not allowed to defend our homes without fear of prosecution is such a silly thing...ofcourse its a fine line between what would be acceptable and what would be manslaughter, but surely when your life is at risk you should have every right to defend yourself. I was told a few years ago that the quickest way to get cops to your house is to mention firearms...in my case, since i do have pistols, i would simply say if the police cant come quickly enough i will be forced to use my pistols. Or you could suggest that the crims have firearms too...
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Strange that there's nothing in the local media about this...they're usually all over it...
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Time to upgrade your security and emergency proceedures.... Baseball bat a must...
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Do as the old urban legend said to do...
When the cops are stalling and asking stupid bloody questions, say "Hold on a moment please", and put the phone down, then drop a heavy book a couple of times on a table beside the phone. Then pick up the phone and say "It's OK, I've shot the bastards...turn up whenever you can", and leave the phone off the hook (but with triple 000 they know who rang anyway).

That seems to bring them pretty damn fast...

Glad to hear you and the family are OK...I'd heard that it was pretty common over there to steal high performance cars for getaways, and that the buggers were getting pretty brazen about it.
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Quite a shocking story, i didn't expect you to say they continued to try and break in once they were aware you were awake and resisting!

To be honest story like this scare the $#!t out of me, our house isn't the most secure when it comes to quality security doors and the like, something i plan on upgrading in upcoming renovations but for the time being i don't feel "secure".

Hope your dog is ok, for reason like this my GSD sleeps inside, if someone break into my shed i don't care, take what you want, it's covered, if someone breaks into the house he will let me know and hopefully be enough to put them off coming any further than the back/front door.

Stay safe and alert for the coming days, hope your family is ok and can move on quickly from this incident.
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bloody cheeky mongrels, when your home is robbed or ransacked, it certainly makes you feel violated in your own home(been there), even without the attempted assault, Atec77`s idea to make your house more secure for your own peace of mind sounds like good sence, at least your all ok .
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Bugger.... I would be very careful... if they were so brazen who knows what would happen down the track, like when the mrs and kids are home and you are not.

Can you park the car close by out of sight for a while to give the impression that you no longer own the car?
Don't worry I've since prepared a few home defences and have a couple of guys at the end of my street 'On Call' in case they show up again.
My F6 is parked in the backyard out of sight now.

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And this my friends is why we need something like the "Castle Doctrine" that they have in some states in the USA.

Police where behind the ball and came afterwards, what if they actually got in? Would this guy be posting on AFF?
No I wouldn't be here now because I have no doubt that I felt threatened enough to use deadly force on the first one that got inside and his mate too if he followed.
So I would probably be in gaol right now charged with manslaughter if they did gain entry.

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Holy crap!

That is actually pretty frightening. You did well and your damned if you do or dont in that situation.

Hopefully they are caught, pity they cant be hung.
Yeah well I was caught flat-footed and didn't have time to prepare or properly arm myself.
But I do keep a level head when most folks panic and did everything I could think of to stop them cold.

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That would have been a scary situation for you and your family.

Glad to see that no one was hurt.

Were you yelling at them when they were trying to bust in your back door? I would have thought, that if they knew someone was home, they would have stopped and moved onto their next target.

As I said, glad to see no one was hurt. Very lucky indeed.

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Oh yes I was yelling at them that the police had been called and were on the way but they didn't seem to worry them.

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I am sure that we are all quite concerned about what has occured here.
Examining a million and one what if's, and no amount of speculation / namecalling etc will see these criminals brought to justice.
Let's hope that they are caught BEFORE they do any further damage. Or members here on AFF decide to push the site T & C & get themselves into hot water over an incident that they weren't directly involved in...
No it won't but I posted this as a warning to others that this kind of thing is happening and they are not immune from it happening to them.

Hopefully the syringe and other evidence will lead to a conviction but I'm not banking on it.

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Mate I would of done the same and fought to the death to with a knife or worse stands have to be made especially in that situation u did well kudos to u
Cheers mate but I really only reacted to a situation that was out of my control the same way as most people would have.

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Man, what is scary is that they knew you knew they were there - yet they still tried to get in.
Well I think the previous contents of the used syringe might have been a factor.
Nobody in their right mind would persist like they did.

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I can see the logic in it, but we shouldnt have to make our homes into a prison.

These guys must have been off there heads to continue knowing you where home, then to try another door! Its downright scary.
Again Drugs.

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Its incidents like this that make me sort of glad that I don't own a nice car.

Makes it all the more worse with small children in the house, they don't need to see that crap.

Fords R Cool which area of Perth are you in? There have been a few in the south eastern corridor this month.
Ah yeah I'm SoR near Spearwood.

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I am sorry to hear your family suffered this disgraceful attack but the dog is ok ? and no one got hurt so there is a plus , several things you have learnt the hardway . Having the kiddies baseball bat near the defendable parts of the house is safe and legal , usually dogs are a deterent and it sounds like you need to harden the fences where you park the car making them taller and imposible to open quickly , doors can be skinned cheaply with some galvo iron sheets and sikoflex , lots of things you can do but thankfully no one injured . Add to the external lights and infrared triggers and if you need any more suggestion just ask , remember this scum may return better prepared so secure the car as best you can and park it out back locked in the shed securily , good luck with it and give consideration to adding a decent cctv system covering the properrty ( my field)
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Don't worry, as much as I hate to let this incident interfere with my home life, I have more than just a principal to protect, so security upgrades are happening.
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Much more common than people are aware
Hell yeah, I learned that there were two more home invasions today in the suburb I live in.

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terrible......simply disgustingly terrible.....main thing is you are all okay!
I'm more grateful that my wife and kids weren't hurt than anything. My own safety wasn't my main concern.

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There was a case here in Wait Awhile with the old bloke who shot an intruder with his shottie and got off for it, ie the Police didn't charge him with anything. However, he was elderly and is full time carer for his disabled wife and he barricaded himself in his bedroom and they still tried to get to him and he warned them several times that he had a gun and he'd shoot if they continued to try and get in

Anything less than that (ie overwhelming mitigating circumstances in your defence) you'd probably get done by the cops for shooting the perp
I'm 100% sure I would have been charged.
It's left up to the courts to decide guilt.

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This is very disturbing to read and I hate to say it, but the night before last night would have been the last decent night’s sleep you will have for a long time. I just hope that your kids weren’t traumatised by it.

I hope that there’s a DNA match with the syringe and hopefully these scumbags will be caught.

All the best with the future.

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Funny you say that but we had glaziers come out straight away to replace all the smashed windows and fell asleep in the chair waiting for them to finish the repairs.
They had to wake me up to tell me they were done.

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Glad to see you & your family are safe & well` if this ever happens again when you make the call to the police tell them that you think they have a gun! they will be there in 5sec flat!
Actually they did respond very quickly considering it has to be entered into the system before they are dispatched

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If I'd known they were after the car I would have chucked em the keys, family first over a car all day every day.

Good work holding them at bay none the less
The trouble was I had no idea of what their exact intentions were when it was happening.
All I knew was these two were not in my backyard to do good.

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Mate all they are low life junkies tryin to get your car and sell it on and get more drugs so they can be happy. I will say that you did a great job protecting you family and if that ever happens again you will know what to do.
Nah, The police were telling me they make the perfect get-away car to escape from the police after they have committed a crime.
At 140 Kmph WA police need special permission to continue pursuit and the bastards know it, so they steal cars that can get to that speed quickly.

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That's pretty full on, glad everyone is ok as thats the main thing. It may seem crude and outside the square but invest in a cordless circular saw/grinder. Imagine hearing some electric power tool fire up while trying to break into a home, I'd probably change my mind quick smart and run for the hills
I somehow think it would have taken a blast from a firearm to scare these guys off seeing they were high.

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I feel for you buddy theres alot of scums in this world we live in, if someone bothered to steal my pride and joy i would've stabbed them 50 times before they hit the ground....
I couldn't have cared less about the car, my concern was procting my family from the.

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chainsaw in the laundry should do the trick - scare the bejeasus out of em !!!
Maybe but who wants to keep a chainsaw in the laundry when you have small children?

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That would have been a terrifying experience. Good to hear that you and your family are ok. The cops will get them, lets hope the courts actually put them away for a long time.
Well they looked like they were of indiginous decent from what I did see of their faces, so going to gaol would be like going home for a holiday to them.

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to want to try and break in for 5 mins or longer, sounds like it might have been something a bit more personal than just wanting the car. they wouldn't hang around that long with the chance of the Police coming.

i dunno Perth might be different to Sydney. to be carrying a shovel and a block of wood they aren't things u use for a home invasion, they are tools used for giving a beating. it might be a case of mistaken identity, i have seen alot of people get hurt because they looked or drove the same car as someone.

main thing is everyone came out unscathed except for the dog.
No they found my shovel that I had been using around the back in the garden earlier that day and picked it up were I leant it.
The piece of timber was a left over piece of roofing timber from when I had my house's roof retiled.

The dog copped a whallop for snarling and growling at them, which drove him back but he didn't get hit badly and is fine now.

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Stories like this make me wish i still had guns, damn.

Luck op, good luck in catching them!
You and me both mate.
I would have loved to put a round in each of them.

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Were there any verbal exchanges between you and the crims?
I was but they never shouted back any replies or demands.

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Yep or a shotgun full of buckshot, wont kill them but it will sure let them know whos boss!!!
Nope, IMHO a solid slug would have been preferable.


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Wow glad to hear that you but especially the wife and kids are ok. Bloody pond scum. Do these a***holes have a mother? Do they know what their sons get up to at night??? Hope they are caught soon, better still, pick on some bikies pride and joy and get caught by them in a bad mood. Good on you for being able to maintain your head under incredible circumstances. I know someone that had 2 Maloos stolen from their drive way also in Perth but in the late 90's. The second one was stolen when someone broke into their house in the middle of the night while they slept. They woke up to the car starting and racing up the driveway at rate of knots. They also had a 3 year old girl and a 5 year old boy at home at the time. Needless to say they never got a third one. Low life oxygen thieves.

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You ARE A GOD DAMN HERO. Who knows what those mongrels would have done with you, your wife or anyone else in your home if you just simply gave up and let them do what they wanted.

I'm going to say this though: you picking up the knife was against the law. If you use a knife in this country to defend you and your family you are being charged, no if or buts. I don't agree with it, I hate it as much as anyone reading this sentence, but that is the law.

Keep sports equipment conveniently around the house or have some mounted "display pieces". Never ever say your weapon is for self defense as that is a crime in on itself. If you have to use anything to defend yourself, say you feared for your life and the life of others.

Hopefully this event has shown what kind of assistance the police will be in a home invasion situation.
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Ah yeah I'm SoR near Spearwood.
Aah Spearwood. The black hole.

Then again this sort of thing is happening everywhere these days. Your best defence is to make your place a harder target than the next place.
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Default Re: Attempted HOME INVASION for my FPV F6.

hope you and your family can recover from the shock of it mate its a violating feeling....

i have i little bit of plastic saying i can defend myself against animals like this..

(firearms licence)
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:25 PM   #55
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Hmm makes me want to get a gun license.
I don't want to shoot criminals if I don't have to, but surely pointing a gun at them would scare away most of them, even the ones on drugs.

Once I buy my house this year I will be looking into things like CCTV and having things like baseball bats hidden around the house, because I'm a big 'sports' fan.

But I also like the idea of having a chainsaw in the house. GTA style.
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:34 PM   #56
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Chainsaw in the house? Seriously?

Well you better be good at using it because just as you see it as a way to protect yourself, it could actually be used against you too.

Having your house broken into when you are not home is devestating enough but to have it happen whilst you are there would be much worse. If I personally had someone break into my house and threaten me...I would tell them to take whatever they want. Possessions are just that...possessions and are replaceable. Humans aren't and who knows what someone who is desperate is willing to do.
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I was reading somewhere just the other day (can't remember where) that it is getting more common for thieves to do home invasions to get car keys.

Seems like all these security upgrades & computer coded keys have made the cars so hard to steal, they now think its quicker and easier to bust into a house, terrorise the occupants and get the keys, and take the car with the keys than it is to break into the car and get it started and get away.

Well done on keeping your family safe, glad to hear your dog's ok. Low life scum really.
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What a horrible situation to be in mate! Good on you for standing up to them and quite possibly saving you and your family a lot of grief.
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Just wow.

Invest in a hook - hang the keys on the letterbox.

It seems odd that they would carry a used syringe throughout the whole thing though - why would you when you're trying to bust a door down? It seems to me that there is more to this than pinching a getaway car. Not suggesting the OP has any skeletons, but the level of desperation does not fit the crime.

You would have an infinitely better chance of getting the car by knocking on the door and asking for it. I know I'd happily hand over the keys and give them a quick demo on the satnav if required.

Good job on protecting the family anyway mate, it's what we're here to do and what you've done well.
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hope you and your family can recover from the shock of it mate its a violating feeling....

i have i little bit of plastic saying i can defend myself against animals like this..

(firearms licence)
And the National Firearms Agreement of 1996 that all the states signed says self defense is not a valid reason for owning or using a firearm and mandates by law firearms have to be within a gun safe when not in use and ammunition in a seperate, locked container.

If you pull out a shotgun and you're forced to use it against a jacked up needlehead (but still unarmed or with a minor melee weapon), you're going to jail.

That's because the self defense laws in this country work on escalation. If you are punched, you can't draw a knife. If you are stabbed, you can't shoot. If you are being shot at, you probably still can't shoot because you're too busy trying to get the damn gun safe open, reassemble the bolt, and insert ammunition.
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