It is clear that the oil companies are screwing us!!!

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by groops

........need to charge you 4% for using your credit card, ......that'll be an additional 1.5% for using eftpos and an additional 20c to take cash out.........

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

....So long as they aren't charging a surcharge more than what the bank does nothing wrong with it

I run my own business. I will not support business that charge like wounded bulls regarding card-surcharges.

Most business price their goods according to margins like cost/wages/overheads and profit. Most service station charge rediculous prices for the items they sell anyway. 1.5% transaction fee should be easily absorbed by the goods sell price.

I dont charge "car-surcharges" in my business, even if an item is on sale, but if a customer pays using cash then i am happy to offer another 1.5-2.5% discount because of the commision i wont pay the bank.

Eftpos(including credit cards) makes up 70% of most retail transaction these day, there is no excuse for a shop to charge a surchrge because of this.


Sorry, i have taken it off the topic.

End rant.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Thunder

I run my own business. I will not support business that charge like wounded bulls regarding card-surcharges.

Most business price their goods according to margins like cost/wages/overheads and profit. Most service station charge rediculous prices for the items they sell anyway. 1.5% transaction fee should be easily absorbed by the goods sell price.

I dont charge "car-surcharges" in my business, even if an item is on sale, but if a customer pays using cash then i am happy to offer another 1.5-2.5% discount because of the commision i wont pay the bank.

Eftpos(including credit cards) makes up 70% of most retail transaction these day, there is no excuse for a shop to charge a surchrge because of this.


Sorry, i have taken it off the topic.

End rant.

Just saying that it's not like they are charging a non-existant fee. Also it's incentive to pay cash. We don't charge surcharge either.

[Laminge]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I can tell you now that whatever is charged via EFTPOS transactions, the business doesn't get completely all of it hence the surcharge to cover that. The bank takes a certain piece off every transaction. And being a petrol station they would get a lot of those transactions. Some charge, others don't.

So long as they aren't charging a surcharge more than what the bank does nothing wrong with it.

The oil companies make the profits, not the petrol station. They have to put prices up accordingly to what they are charged by the oil company that they are supplied by.

Servos have one of the lowest eftpos rates in the market, I dont see how effectively .90% of a transaction is a valid argument.

Originally Posted by Laminge

Servos have one of the lowest eftpos rates in the market, I dont see how effectively .90% of a transaction is a valid argument.

Got to love the free 2c of petrol when paying cash

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by BlackLS

Got to love the free 2c of petrol when paying cash

And with a supermarket docket makes it 6c.

6c off your average 60 litres, equals $3.60, time that by 52 weeks=$187.20

Damn..........that dosen't even cover my weekly coffee allowance

[wodahs]

i tells ya
next they'll be charginge parking rates for time spent at the bouser
and they'll have inspectors n fines n all
i tells ya

[XR06T]

wow, the tax sure is a big chunk on that graph posted!!

all we hear are reasons for it to go up. maintenance on the oil fields in america? come on..
the 10c increase in $A should have had some downward pressure mind you!

[DJM83]

Must be all those people out there drivin V8's because there doesnt seem to be a realistic reason for this, opps hang on i have a V8. BTW i paid 138cpl for BP premium (not 98)

[Bill_R]

Originally Posted by merlin

As much as I dont like it what can anyone do about it???

Complain. It really can help.
Fill up and keep your tank full when the price is low and only add fuel if it is necessary when it is high.
Push for E10 available at all Servos to reduce our dependance on overseas fuel.

I htink they are gettign the hint. What I've noticed around here is that it goes up around Thursday but then drops a little over the weekend. Previously it would stay up of go higher over the weekend.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by Bill_R

Push for E10 available at all Servos to reduce our dependance on overseas fuel.

i believe that in europe they are looking in to e80

and would be interested in knowing whats stoping me from running ethenole straight , daily :

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by wodahs

i believe that in europe they are looking in to e80

and would be interested in knowing whats stoping me from running ethenole straight , daily :

In Germany there are Focus's running E85, in one town only and you can only buy the fuel from one servo (may have increased as I read this a year ago). BUt the E85 motors will run regular petrol.

[bob 351]

Originally Posted by Thunder

And with a supermarket docket makes it 6c.

6c off your average 60 litres, equals $3.60, time that by 52 weeks=$187.20

Damn..........that dosen't even cover my weekly coffee allowance

wtf you get a coffee allowance

[jd dad]

At least they respect me in the morning

[elusiverunner]

Driving home this morning I noticed all the service stations were selling ULP at $1.29 were as yesterday on the way to work they were all at $1.48 .... so what happened overnight ??

[chich]

Originally Posted by bob 351

maybe we should all stay home for a month and see if we can bring the country to a standstill they dont sell fuel the goverment dont get there cut and all of a sudden no profit margin but dont forget we gotta stock up on groceries oh bugger they will get us there can't win can we with the price of groceries and vegies seem's like every day the little guy's get scewed and the rich get gold plated pockets

Yep, and thats completely realistic... :

[SNB05T]

Originally Posted by elusiverunner

Driving home this morning I noticed all the service stations were selling ULP at $1.29 were as yesterday on the way to work they were all at $1.48 .... so what happened overnight ??

must have been the chickens casper was talking about

[Unco]

Originally Posted by elusiverunner

Driving home this morning I noticed all the service stations were selling ULP at $1.29 were as yesterday on the way to work they were all at $1.48 .... so what happened overnight ??

yep, there was an unexpected surplus of peruvian chooks. this relieved some of the pressure on singapore crude prices and the savings found their way into our servos by the morning.

[bob 351]

Originally Posted by chich

Yep, and thats completely realistic... :

and what you think that wont ever happen get real dude there has got to be a point where the camels back get's broken don't you think. They cant keep putting the price up as there will be a point where the general public wont be able to afford to drive there car's or truck's what then public transport yea right they can't even get that right so what's the answer

[Jesk]

Originally Posted by Thunder

And with a supermarket docket makes it 6c.

6c off your average 60 litres, equals $3.60, time that by 52 weeks=$187.20

Damn..........that dosen't even cover my weekly coffee allowance

sorry mate youre getting the wrong end of the stick there his 2c isn't per litre its getting $20.02 of petrol and paying $20 cash, some are fanatical about getting their free 2c

[ED Classic]

Could be a storm somewhere..Price better go up

[schmidty]

Originally Posted by TZENU

LOL at Casper... Love it!!!

Yep saw 1.40 this morning in Bayswater :(

Ahh well soon we will need to begin hijacking Fuel trucks.... a new product on the black market... Petrol!

Don't laugh about that, it's going on a lot more than you think. I know a couple of people that are buying it. They were getting premium for $1 per L. I saw ultimate last night at BP for $1.48 per L.

I dont care what anyone says, the best money i have ever spent was my LPG conversion. I'm paying through the roof for gas at the moment, 44.9cpl !!!!!!!!!!!! It went up 4c this week!! Missus laughed when i said how ghey it was that they'd jacked it up so much over night, but thats 10% Would be like petrol going up another 14c tonight.

[russellw]

It's slightly off topic (but related anyway) - here is an interesting test of some of the premium synthetic oils available in the market today.

Cheers
Russ

[Tribal]

Great info and pretty conclusive - I know what I'll be changing to...

Im using Fuchs oil in the Foc, Mobil 1 suprised my in a bad way, Valvoline Durablend and Australia's Penrite very impressive considering they are well priced but wow the Royal Purple.

I think the source was Street Commodores mag. See the SC tag at the end of the article.

[wodahs]

heard on the radio today that of all things the price is going up coz , yes of all things even thou the price of us oil going down , its coz its sommer brake in the us and may push prices ova $1.50 - WTF - and we're not even ment to be tied to the us market we are ment to be tied to the singapore market
so the us public goes on holidays and we pay more for fuel ??????

[XF GHIA]

The price of fuel is a joke.. : One day its $1.24 the next day $1.42..For the fuel to go back down 18c it takes a week but can go up 18c over night..Little johnny :Up_to_som can stop it but his to money hungry...

[chich]

Originally Posted by bob 351

and what you think that wont ever happen get real dude there has got to be a point where the camels back get's broken don't you think. They cant keep putting the price up as there will be a point where the general public wont be able to afford to drive there car's or truck's what then public transport yea right they can't even get that right so what's the answer

Mate, if petrol here was $2 or $2.50 per litre like it is in Europe you'll still be paying and saying 'thank you Mr oil company'. The cost of living never has, & never will stop increasing - petrol is one of those costs. Funny how no-one complains when a slab of beer or a packet of smokes increases by a dollar or two but when there's an inconsitency on the price of petrol, people spit the dummy and make absurd suggestions such as staying home for a month in protest :togo:

[LeadFoot81]

Theyd b***h if this was beerforums, but its fordforums mate.

You've obviously never worked at a bottle-o either...

[vztrt]

^^ exactly, I remember my time at a bottle-o. Price goes up twice a year and the complaints come rolling in.

[volcom20]

Anyone watch Crude on ABC? (About oil) It stated in the last 50 years we're coming close to 50% of using the total ammount of oil we have. Some experts in the industry said that the peek was in 05, others say it might be in 08, or 2010. Whatever it is - It's close.

Now when the decline starts petrol will start slowly going up and up. Our my grandchildren (I'm 18, so this applies to me anyway) will be in a petrol free society... (How sad...)

Another fact - We've never discoverd more oil over the last 25 years than we did in 1960 - 1970... (Could have been 1950 to 1960, sorry to be vage on facts, I'm hungover...)

At the moment we've discovered all of the easily accessable oil, and moved out to sea. So far that we've had to use semi-submersable rigs instead of the standard platforms. (This has happened for ages)...

Crude also explained how oil was created, taking 100,000s or millions of years.

One ironic fact is that oil was created after so much carborn was released into the atmospher that the polar icecaps melted, humidity and temprature rose (ie, our current global warming crisis). Once the icecaps melt, there'll be no flows in our ocean and hardly any oxaygen (Cold water contains more oxygen than warm water, and our waters depend on going to the icecaps to cool down, filled with oxygen and sent back to warmer climates).

The ironic part? We've got 2x the normal carborn levels in our air already, all from the last 50 years. In another 50 we'll reach 4x, the exact same ammount that caused our waters to shutdown over "lots and lots of years ago", which, once became still, organic plant life sat on the ocean floor and was baked into oil (Very vage discription of the process). So we're just creating more of it quicker !

Now my post might not make sense, because I've probably lost my trainof thought about 10 times (Headache....) so if that's the case! - Watch Crude if you can.