Speed Cameras - Instant speed and average - Page 2

MITCHAY · 27-05-2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sexyxe

Did he get a fine or did he just have the right to drive in NSW revoked?
thats sort what i want, wouldnt bother me if i couldnt drive/ride in Vic too much.
thanks for the advice/comments everyone

I think he got a pretty hefty fine but meh that can be paid. He had to get his parents to drive his car home though. They (police) would not let him back in it. It was on the spot as it gets.

Funniest thing is that he is the last person I would have expect to get done that fast.

outback_ute · 27-05-2007, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Outbackjack

The vast majority of drivers drive at the posted speed limit and do not go out of their way to break the law. Most people here are against speed camera's because we all know that are prone to make mistakes and we all know that driving with your eyes glued to the speedo is dangerous. By the sounds of your posts this is what you do. This would mke you a dangerous driver, but hey, you probably wont get a speed camera fine. I am glad that you dont drive around here.

The biggest issue I see (apart from the whole illegal thing) is that the other traffic on the road will not be expecting to have a bike closing on them at double their speed, and might cause a bit of a fright or worse for sexyxe, only need to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

FPV8U · 27-05-2007, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by outback_ute

The biggest issue I see (apart from the whole illegal thing) is that the other traffic on the road will not be expecting to have a bike closing on them at double their speed, and might cause a bit of a fright or worse for sexyxe, only need to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Not that we need to get into details but i don't think Sexyxe would be passing cars at 190Km/h.

sexyxe · 27-05-2007, 07:27 PM

ah... yeah that would be dumb....
dont really wanna be told off by forum members. was after some advice and i thank everyone for the input, has sort of helped rest the mind!

prydey · 27-05-2007, 09:50 PM

i thought the camera's were mainly for heavy vehicles. safe T cams have been around for years.

Umineko · 27-05-2007, 10:39 PM

190 is not just dangerous but stupid, ok sure maybe you are a top notch rider and can handle it (never met a rider who would admit otherwise) but what of other road users who may not be expecting you to close the gap between you and them at almost twice the legal limit? I travel a lot on the highways and have seen so many bike riders do some really brainless things, then when something does happen it's always the damn car drivers fault for not looking. (oh and by the way, I ride a bike to)

as for the cameras they use IR technology these days so there is no flash, the down side for the driver is that they will read clearly through smoke, fog, rain and number plate covers, a computer then uses imaging software to read the number plate and compare it to times taken at other camera locations, there are occasions when the software will not be able to make out the plate correctly at one or more cameras but you can bet they'll get an accurate read somewhere along the track, the technology isn't new they have been using it to monitor trucks in NSW for years, but it's come a long way over the years and the accuracy is much better than the old speed cameras used to be

Umineko · 27-05-2007, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

Can someone plese answer this question though, if he had been caught by a police officer doing this, would it have been legal for them to Impound his Bike for 48 Hours considering he is from another state?

If he was in Vic, then yes the police would be well within their powers to impound his vehicle, once he leaves the state border then no, the decision to impound or not is often left to the discretion of the attending police officer, it would depend on the severity of the infringement.

Bud Bud · 28-05-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sexr6tasy

I wouldnt worry about it mate even the vic government doesnt have federal powers to take your licence away in other states

I'm not so sure! I was caught on the Monash Freeway a couple of years ago at an alleged 85 in an 80 zone and issued a fine that would have included the loss of demerit points although I was/am holding an SA licence. If I was on me last points, that would of meant that I would of lost my license over all and not just in VIC. Lucky for me the fine was revoked by the Police Commissioner like everybody else's at that time before I had to answer to it.

For what it's worth, I know I was not speeding at that time as I use my cruise control set slightly lower that the speed limit around 78-79 kmh and if you factor in the ADR compliance of + or - 10%, my car is still within legal requirements.

Kind of explains why the cameras were pulled at the time, at least to me anyhow!

dannyxm · 28-05-2007, 10:34 AM

Q. I was caught speeding in Victoria at 40kmh over the speed limit. Will my NSW/UK driver's licence be affected?

Your interstate or overseas licence can not be suspended by any Victorian law or authority. However, your right to drive in Victoria will be suspended for 6 months. Interstate licence holders may find that their local licencing authority has the power to suspend their interstate drivers licence if they become disqualified from driving in Victoria. Driving during a period of suspension or disqualification is an offence punishable by imprisonment. Victorian law can not prevent you from using a non-Victorian licence in other states.

Quoted from this site: http://www.trafficlaw.com.au/speeding.html
Not sure if its 100% correct, but it seems Victoria doesnt have the power to take interstate licences away.

Tote · 28-05-2007, 10:47 AM

Just a question, is the software that reads the numberplates on the elapsed time cameras smart enough to interpret interstate plates anyway?
I would imagine that the software would have a database of Victorian registered vehicles to act on, it would be unlikely to have out of state regos. It will be interesting to see if you recieve anything in the mail.
As an aside why do all the "speed is dangerous" morons have to put their 2c in on the thread? It's irrelevent to the question posed by the original poster and if I wanted to read speed kills propaganda I can go to the RTA site.
If you want to be trolls start your own thread.
Regards,
Tote

Bud Bud · 28-05-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by outback_ute

The biggest issue I see (apart from the whole illegal thing) is that the other traffic on the road will not be expecting to have a bike closing on them at double their speed, and might cause a bit of a fright or worse for sexyxe, only need to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

It happens. I was travelling (meandering) east along the SE freeway about 10 kms short of Murray Bridge about 2 years ago and I was still in the R/H lane after I had overtaken a truck a short while before. I should of drifted back into the L/H lane by then but hadn't quite gotten around to it.

As I was going along I obligatory looked into my rear view mirror but all I could see was the red/orange/yellow glow of the sunset lighting up my mirror. Although I was cruising around 110 kp/h and thought I was alone on the road, for no apparent reason I felt uncomfortable about changing back to the L/H lane.

As I was contemplating the brightness of the sunset, A flash of red Porsche Boxter burst pass me in the L/H in what would of been around 180 - 200 + kp/h. I never saw him coming at all, and If I was lazy or if I did not listen to my instinct, I could of quite easily of drifted back into the L/H lane. He would never have been able to avoid me at that speed. It left my family and I in a little bit of shock!

The only thing I could not work out was surely the driver of the Porsche had the same blinding sunset in his mirror and surely he would of know that he was pushing the boundaries and that no one would be able to see him coming in their mirrors? Surely?

The problem with excess speed is that the driver of these machines think that everybody else around them knows what these speeding drivers are thinking and doing, and therefore would be in a position to make allowances for them.

TS50 · 28-05-2007, 11:26 AM

I thought it all changed 18 months ago, that all states now combine. So if you get caught in victoria using a Tasmanian/ S.A. / N.S.W. license etc. you lost tpoint of your license. I am sure it all became recipricoal, because people were getiing licenses in different states and couldnt lose their license.
Check it out, but if you get causgt, Victoria will let the ACT license people know, and your points will be gone. You still pay the fine to Victoria tho

Dave_au · 28-05-2007, 11:30 AM

Do the victorian fixed point to point cameras take shots of the front or the rear of the vehicle?

05MkIIFutura · 28-05-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Outbackjack

You are probably an expereinced rider, so the speed was not the danger. This has been proved here in the NT. The only danger was, like I said, wild life.

This why Australian road laws are so very stupid and designed to raise money, if it happens to safe a life , then that is just a bonus.

Are you kidding??

Have you driven on the Hume Hwy on a Friday night??

Mate we dont all live in a state that is empty of traffic.

That was not an insult, just an observation.

05MkIIFutura · 28-05-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kooky

Can some one explain to me how these estimated speed camera's work?

you pass through each camera and it takes your photo each time for every car. Then there is someone/something checking each photo for the time and car etc...... how many cars pass down the Hume each day...... X 5 photos...... sounds far fetched, has anybody got any proof of how these actually work?

You have got it right.

It has been used on Trucks (Safe-T-Cam) for years and years.

It works.

exrtnz · 28-05-2007, 02:12 PM

Next time you set off on a big cruise get a spare set of plates screw em on and no more worring about speed cameras or those speed and distance things. Just remember to put the good plates back on when you get back.

Outbackjack · 28-05-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 05MkIIFutura

Are you kidding??

Have you driven on the Hume Hwy on a Friday night??

Mate we dont all live in a state that is empty of traffic.

That was not an insult, just an observation.

Horses for courses. And yes I have driven the Hume hwy many times. A couple of weeks ago I drove from MLB to Canberra. The hume was full of frightened little people with white knuckles and staring at their speedo's like it was a porn movie. Great way to improve road safety.

So, you agree that its not the speed that is the main issue and it comes back to driver confidence and skill. I believe that is what I was saying.