Bathurst

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by Quasi

Yes, from memory it was uncle Tom who lodged the initial protest.

He actually picked on all the sierra teams, including DJR, and the list included virtually everything on the cars, including diff gearing. A channel 7 reporter actually said to Walkinshaw (after he stated what was in the protest) "That's basically everything on the Sierras'....and Tom responded "Oh, there's a few bits left".

Mind you the easiest way to look at it is that the Texaco Ford Sierras were disqualified because they were in front of Brock

****inshaw protested all the sierra's in 1988, then pretended to be a nice guy by withdrawing it on the winning sierra (if indeed a sierra won)
the strange thing is that the only top car to be found illegal was ****inshaw's. luckily it was dropped off the jacks early in the race and suffered a dnf so apart from not getting disqualified it was quickly forgotten by the media

[photn]

Originally Posted by ELGT4me

I suppose not being able to buy a Sierra in Australia, would have nothing to do with having them "banished" from our premiere motorsport event?

quite wrong mate. there are plenty around. just gotta look in the right spots.

Try looking for a Saphire 4x4 as they have a Cosworth Turbo Engine, also mk4 Escorts and even some Sierra Cosworths. there are quite a few available. though not cheap, they are available.

My dream is to one day have one in the garage with some nice boost.

Heres a good one located in NSW Gosford.
Link2

Or if you have the Dosh and livei n QLD here is this one,

Link1


But as i said, Saphires are a real bargin as they have the same engine ideally as the RS500, give or take a few specifications. but the engine itself if modified correctly will reach 700HP. dont believe me, go to your Boarders book shop and pic up a copy of Performance Ford Magazine (UK edition) and those cars are always in there.



But anywho.. enough drooling from me. back to staring. Link3

[ELGT4me]

Well I tried to buy one when they were new. I was told they did not meet ADR requirements, but I could "sneak one through the back door "(ie N.Z.). MY thoughts on this was if I had a decent Sierra that went hard ,& was reliable, why would I sell it, let alone sell it to someone in Australia? :

[R0BD0G]

Originally Posted by photn

quite wrong mate. there are plenty around. just gotta look in the right spots.

Try looking for a Saphire 4x4 as they have a Cosworth Turbo Engine, also mk4 Escorts and even some Sierra Cosworths. there are quite a few available. though not cheap, they are available.

My dream is to one day have one in the garage with some nice boost.

Heres a good one located in NSW Gosford.
Link2

Or if you have the Dosh and livei n QLD here is this one,

Link1


But as i said, Saphires are a real bargin as they have the same engine ideally as the RS500, give or take a few specifications. but the engine itself if modified correctly will reach 700HP. dont believe me, go to your Boarders book shop and pic up a copy of Performance Ford Magazine (UK edition) and those cars are always in there.



But anywho.. enough drooling from me. back to staring. Link3

wow...if i had 50k id love a sierra

[photn]

Originally Posted by ELGT4me

Well I tried to buy one when they were new. I was told they did not meet ADR requirements, but I could "sneak one through the back door "(ie N.Z.). MY thoughts on this was if I had a decent Sierra that went hard ,& was reliable, why would I sell it, let alone sell it to someone in Australia? :

true true not many where brought in and as you said they didnt really meet ADR's. BUT alot of the ones that are here now are Personal Imports and they pop up from time to time. They are a good buy.

Not sure where you are located honestly but if you are in NSW sydney metro the Classic Ford Club have Cruises on all the time and they are great to go to, as they have a few RS500 Sierras with serious boost, they have a MK4 Escort Cosworth 4x4 with some nice power, Also have a mk2 RS2000 escort with a YB Cosworth Engine that is a real hoot and also a mk2 Cortina with a YB cosworth Engine Running 26PSI of boost making 271RWK in something that weighs like 700kg.

but anywhoo...

[loony888]

while the eggenberger sierras were technically outside the rules, they were scrutineered three times before the "great race" and nothing was said. i'm reasonably sure if it was mentioned, they would have complied, after all why bring cars, team and gear half way round the globe to get yourself disqualified???
what really bites though, is the next year, the mods done to the guards on the texaco cars were now allowed in the ATCC to all sierras. wasn't bathurst the last race of the season?? i suspect cams knew the new rules for the following year at bathurst.............

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by loony888

while the eggenberger sierras were technically outside the rules, they were scrutineered three times before the "great race" and nothing was said. i'm reasonably sure if it was mentioned, they would have complied, after all why bring cars, team and gear half way round the globe to get yourself disqualified???
what really bites though, is the next year, the mods done to the guards on the texaco cars were now allowed in the ATCC to all sierras. wasn't bathurst the last race of the season?? i suspect cams knew the new rules for the following year at bathurst.............

i believe that at bathurst, they were always unders suspicion - they had been cleared in all the previous rounds but the australian authorities were (and should have been) stricter with the rules. because they were cleared previously, rudi eggenberger believed they were ok and did not change them for qualifiying and the race. they should have been forced to change them or have been sent home. in my view the organiser's effectively cheated by letting them race, knowing they would take any result they achieved off them.
a week after bathurst was calder and afterwards was another couple of rounds. it is interesting they were only disqualified from the australian rounds, even though in all previous rounds and possibily the later rounds, they were running the sames guards

[Quasi]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

****inshaw protested all the sierra's in 1988, then pretended to be a nice guy by withdrawing it on the winning sierra (if indeed a sierra won)
the strange thing is that the only top car to be found illegal was ****inshaw's. luckily it was dropped off the jacks early in the race and suffered a dnf so apart from not getting disqualified it was quickly forgotten by the media

Yeah, I had a nagging feeling it had been the year after. It was indeed a Sierra that won in 1988......Longhurst/Mazera, and then Johnson/Bowe in 1989 (where they led every lap after passing Brock the first time down Conrod).

[Casablanca]

who cares honestly this debate will go on forever over whos fault it is becuase noone wants to see their cars get disqualified it all comes down to dont cheat and you wont get caught. :

its not that hard people