BA/BF most successful Falcon On road and Track - Page 2

5.4 GT · 11-06-2008, 06:31 PM

For Interests sake.

Ford Wins:

29 - Falcon BA
25 - Sierra RS500
11 - Falcon XBGT
11 - Falcon EB V8
9 - Falcon EF
8 - Falcon XD
8 - Falcon AUXR8
7 - Mustang 1969
6 - Falcon GTHO
4 - Falcon XC
4 - Mustang 1967
4 - Falcon EL
1 - Mustang 1965
1 - Cortina GT
1 - Mustang 1968
1 - Sierra RS Cosworth
1 - Falcon XE

BF hasn't been added because it hasn't finished it's racing career yet!

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ILLaViTaR · 11-06-2008, 06:35 PM

I vote for XF.

BeStRaFe · 11-06-2008, 06:47 PM

has anyone got sales stats?

4Vman · 11-06-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveO_SP

For Interests sake.

Ford Wins:

29 - Falcon BA
25 - Sierra RS500
11 - Falcon XBGT
11 - Falcon EB V8
9 - Falcon EF
8 - Falcon XD
8 - Falcon AUXR8
7 - Mustang 1969
6 - Falcon GTHO
4 - Falcon XC
4 - Mustang 1967
4 - Falcon EL
1 - Mustang 1965
1 - Cortina GT
1 - Mustang 1968
1 - Sierra RS Cosworth
1 - Falcon XE

BF hasn't been added because it hasn't finished it's racing career yet!

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So if you take the V8SC's out of it like i thought that makes the XBGT the most successful Falcon on the track!

**Falcon Coupe** · 11-06-2008, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveO_SP

For Interests sake.

Ford Wins:

29 - Falcon BA
25 - Sierra RS500
11 - Falcon XBGT
11 - Falcon EB V8
9 - Falcon EF
8 - Falcon XD
8 - Falcon AUXR8
7 - Mustang 1969
6 - Falcon GTHO
4 - Falcon XC
4 - Mustang 1967
4 - Falcon EL
1 - Mustang 1965
1 - Cortina GT
1 - Mustang 1968
1 - Sierra RS Cosworth
1 - Falcon XE

BF hasn't been added because it hasn't finished it's racing career yet!

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Hmmm, i though XA's had a win somewhere....

4Vman · 11-06-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Hmmm, i though XA's had a win somewhere....

Yes, good point.. there's a couple of "notable" XAGT wins that seem to be missing!!

Ives · 11-06-2008, 07:05 PM

Gotta love the BA/BF Falcons.

ohzone · 11-06-2008, 07:26 PM

It's a shame that all V8 Super Cars of today really only resemble the road car versions from the outside almost like they are a CGI rendition,
when you look at the drive trains, suspension, chassis and interiors etc you can't relate them to the cars you drive on the street.

ieatsports_cars · 11-06-2008, 08:09 PM

i put it this way if it wasnt far au there proberly would not be the lovely ba thank god for the au

NAK302 · 12-06-2008, 03:49 PM

i'd put the statistics away. presently the ba bodied cars have a 50/50 chance of a win, this wasn't the case in production car racing of old.

i think blackwood was probably just as important as ba. correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't XF the highest selling falcon of all time?

steamin63 · 12-06-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The BF2 is probably the lowest selling Falcon of all time, does that mean its successful.

On the track yes, the BA/BF is probably one of the most successful racecars Ford have built, on the road they owned the VY/VZ in nearly every roadtest, but the lack of sales at the end of the day means the later BF/BF2 versions were commercial failures, but thats mostly cause of oil prices though, not really the product because they were still very competitive with the VE.

i disagree. i think they failed because ford couldn't sell ice cubes to arabs [their marketing department should be put down].the bf was far superior to the vx in every aspect including economy yet they still couldn't sell them. cheers.

Eaturbo · 12-06-2008, 09:38 PM

While the XD to XF sold well, they were hardly ground breaking technology. Pushrod motor which has was never powerful or good on fuel, 4spd manual or 3 speed auto. BA/F introduced Twin cam, turbo, VCT 6 speed auto and manual Quad cam V8, STD IRS. Manual Auto Mode SSS,on all models. I dont think any other model intoduced so many firsts as this series

Auslandau · 12-06-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaturbo

While the XD to XF sold well, they were hardly ground breaking technology. Pushrod motor which has was never powerful or good on fuel, 4spd manual or 3 speed auto. BA/F introduced Twin cam, turbo, VCT 6 speed auto and manual Quad cam V8, STD IRS. Manual Auto Mode SSS,on all models. I dont think any other model intoduced so many firsts as this series

I think the initial post was asking .... The Most Successful? Not the best. EVERY model should be an improvement over the last. It can be argued that the AU had more 'firsts' than any other Fords from all other previous models introduced including all Aus manufacturers!

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Bad Bird · 13-06-2008, 08:37 AM

For all the technology the BA/F introduced, it introduced another problem: weight. Lots of it.

Clint Eastwood · 13-06-2008, 03:56 PM

Easily the best looking falcons in years,they are the best looking falcons since the XR-XY series.

God of a car to ford people and an instant classic.

**DJM83** · 13-06-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood

God of a car to ford people and an instant classic.

Not IMO BA isnt a god to me

SirHenry · 13-06-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood

Easily the best looking falcons in years,they are the best looking falcons since the XR-XY series.

God of a car to ford people and an instant classic.

I can see this post going for pages in flames back and forth.

Success can be measured in so many ways personally I don't like the look of the B series I actually prefer the AU's I do like the look of the new FG's if only Ford had a decent marketing dept and came up with better advertising than those stupid fingers.

Personal success wise on road I love my AU.

**DJM83** · 13-06-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SirHenry

Personal success wise on road I love my AU.

That will get flamed mate everyone hates AU's dont you know that

SirHenry · 13-06-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 51RTE

That will get flamed mate everyone hates AU's dont you know that

ROFL

Only those that don't own them,

hey come on I couldn't let a post like that go unanswered

Bad Bird · 13-06-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood

Easily the best looking falcons in years,they are the best looking falcons since the XR-XY series.

God of a car to ford people and an instant classic.

Pretty subjective, don't you think?

I wouldn't put a BA anywhere near an XA-C on the list of desirable cars, but that is hardly technical or objective either.

MITCHAY · 13-06-2008, 09:15 PM

Personally for me I'd never own a Falcon that was pre BA/BF And in addition to that I would only own a XR6T or F6

Auslandau · 13-06-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Personally for me I'd never own a Falcon that was pre BA/BF And in addition to that I would only own a XR6T or F6

Oh Boy ...... you really are missing out then arent you!

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MITCHAY · 13-06-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by auslandau

Oh Boy ...... you really are missing out then arent you!

No not really IMO. Personally they do nothing for me

DJR MAN · 13-06-2008, 11:06 PM

BA the best Falcon to date by far. Successful on the track, won many motoring awards when released, and saved Ford Australia from their blunder called the AU, which if it wasn't rectified and left to create 6 more years of AU variants, could have ended Fords Australian large sedan production decades sooner than it inevitably will be.

FG will be a success too. For now, they haven't been too game to leave the BA stylings too much.

All other Falcons were great in their day, but now in the 21st century, this isn't their day.

IDT · 14-06-2008, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by auslandau

It can be argued that the AU had more 'firsts' than any other Fords from all other previous models introduced including all Aus manufacturers!

Absolutely agree!

Bad Bird · 15-06-2008, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

No not really IMO. Personally they do nothing for me

As Auslandau said, you're really missing out. The BAs are just so heavy.

5.4 GT · 16-06-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad Bird

As Auslandau said, you're really missing out. The BAs are just so heavy.

Really if you want a light car none of the Falcons ever produced are going to suffice. They are all obese.

Bad Bird · 16-06-2008, 08:05 PM

I wouldn't think the XRs would weigh much more than 1300kg. I could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time...

vztrt · 16-06-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad Bird

As Auslandau said, you're really missing out. The BAs are just so heavy.

One thing to consider is Ford worked on the weight of the FG by tring to get as much weight off it as possible, mind you after they added the extra's to it the weight did increase but just slightly. So thats a good sign by Ford trying to keep the car as light as possible and safe as possible.

xbgs351 · 16-06-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveO_SP

Really if you want a light car none of the Falcons ever produced are going to suffice. They are all obese.

The Falcon began its life as a compact car and hence was a reasonably light car.

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