Easiest/hardest cars to work on

[GreenMachine]

Easiest would have to be Holden red motor, hardest would be Nissan 300zx (nightmare) or maybe Jag V12 XJS. If I can't see ground anywhere through the engine bay, I don;t want to touch it.

[Destroyer XR8]

Most modern Honda's are fairly easy to work on, nothing is to inaccessible and things are easy to get back in.

[matty88]

Good: Older cars
Bad: Anything European, Ford Explorer, LS1 commodores

[matty88]

Originally Posted by hemank

tend to find most family 4 bangers are quite easy to work with...the V6 is another story...and the falcon being my first I6, the only thing i have done myself is change the coolant...however by having a look at the oil filter, it looks like its gonna be a to change, esp if i have to go under the car...owellz ill worry about it when the time comes

The oil filter is easy as to change mate, get it frum underneath

[nb_351]

speaking of 300zx, did a motor twice on one... also did clutch, slave cylinder, and master cylinder... i needed two uni joints, plus a wobbly bar...
and another nissan, the underrated pulsar gtir, did 2 clutches on that one, plus a fuel tank, which was a rear subframe out job...
had some good ones in my time...

[stevepet]

Easiest Datsun 260z massive engine bay.
Hardest GQ patrol fuel injected try changing plug number 3 I developed a way of hanging onto the youngfellas legs while he contorted himself to change it.
And to top og the hardest Alfa Romeo GTV evetything an absolute nightmare.

Cheers

[samftr]

I second the taurus 96 DN ghia they sold over here. the alternator is underneath the east west quad cam v6. yeah they drive nice but gord, 900 bucks for the water pump and 600 for the alternator haha jam that. they got you over a barrel too no wreckers have the bloody things.

[Iggypoppin']

The old BMW I had, that was a nightmare. Nothing made any sence and the worst part?for 15 minutes I tried to pop the bonnet, only to realize it was a reversed bonnet and opened from the windscreen...

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by hemank

tend to find most family 4 bangers are quite easy to work with...the V6 is another story...and the falcon being my first I6, the only thing i have done myself is change the coolant...however by having a look at the oil filter, it looks like its gonna be a to change, esp if i have to go under the car...owellz ill worry about it when the time comes

Originally Posted by matty88

The oil filter is easy as to change mate, get it frum underneath

Pretty much its an easy filter to reach. You dont even have to raise the car for the filter or dropping the oil.

[Streets]

Old V8s are easiest to work on. You have everything right there in front of you, and plenty of space to get to everything. I hate the 200/250ci crossflows. Ugly unsightly mess of an engine shoehorned into the engine bay with millimetres to spare, all the important bits buried beneath the ugly mess of vacuum and pollution tubes. Even all chromed up and tidied it still looks like *** and you have to disassemble several components just to be able to get at what you want.

[XR6_661]

Originally Posted by PepeLePew

NM Pajero, Im quite keen to work on most things but helping my mate change spark plugs WASNT an option when I saw what you have to remove to get to them...the list of what you DONT have to remove is shorter.

Can vouch for this. The old boy has a challenger, and they have the same engine (I think?)

And yeah, we looked at changing the plugs and timing belt...oh my gawd. We closed the bonnet and had a beer instead.

Mind you, changing the oil is simple

[XR_Strider_GuY]

Originally Posted by GreenMachine

Easiest would have to be Holden red motor, hardest would be Nissan 300zx (nightmare) or maybe Jag V12 XJS. If I can't see ground anywhere through the engine bay, I don;t want to touch it.

Mate,
No ground to be seen anywhere in a Boss XR8. Infact I would go as far as saying the Boss is as specialised and as complex as the 5.3L quad cam 32valve Aston Martin V8 of the 70's and 80's.

[samftr]

Well it is a quad cam 32 valve engine with coil on plug squeezed in that engine bay... Its a big muhfuggah!

[GreenMachine]

Originally Posted by XR_Strider_GuY

Mate,
No ground to be seen anywhere in a Boss XR8. Infact I would go as far as saying the Boss is as specialised and as complex as the 5.3L quad cam 32valve Aston Martin V8 of the 70's and 80's.

Indeed - Hence why I wouldn't touch a modular motor. Fuel, Air, Spark, Compression - If I need to know more than that, I'd WAY out of my depth.

[greenfoam]

The modern Ford 6 is a bit of a mess on one side, most cars from the mid 80s (last of the pre injection) are a bit "over hosed". The injected Comodores pull apart and go back together easy in V6 form but the 5 litre needs skinny hands to do most things, dizzy cap and leads, brake booster, headers needs the rack droped + more etc. Things are a bit tight for room with the bigger engine. Some of the bigger Japanese motors are nightmares

[prydey]

the worst car/s to work on would have to be vans, surely. growing up, my folks lugged us around in a nissan urvan and then a nissan nomad. its real heart surgery on those things. you have an access hatch under the centre console or driver/passenger seat. the battery was behind the drivers seat undercover. had to peel back the carpet and then open the hatch.

these days with tarago's and the like, they do have a bonnet of sorts but its still cramped. spark plugs are round the back of the motor. need a mirror just to see what you're doing.

as for easy, my mini was pretty easy. it was a leyland one so bit more room in the bay than a morris. also datto 200b had plenty of space and very simple running gear. even the windsor in my eb is extremely easy to work on.

[HSVKILLA]

EASY = my old 89 laser and mark II escort EASY AND ACCESSABLE,i evan find my 91 ea falcon very straight forward and very open spaced in the engine bay.

[atec77]

Originally Posted by Fairlane

Anything old and Inline is easy. My Hillman is an absolute sinch- did the headgasket it under an hour, as is the Kingswood, dont even have to jack the car up to change the oil. Can change the filter standing up.

The Japanese are usually good with their 4 cylinder, but V6's can be a . I find Toyota & Nissan stuff is pretty nicely done though. Euro's well they can be anything- good, bad, ugly.

Some of the worst ive seen or stuffed around with
Jaguar Mk2- No room in engine bay at all, Id love to own one, but im always scared off
Jaguar XJ12- Worst Ive ever seen, a complete disaster, gives me nighmares
Not to mention inboard brakes oh yeah

Austin 1800- Pretty nasty for such an old car
Mazda 626- It just seemed to be a of a thing
Mitsubishi Magna V6- Bloody rear spark plus, took me bloody hours to work out how to deal with that bloody intake manifold (Very reliable car though)

"Jaguar XJ12- Worst Ive ever seen, a complete disaster, gives me nighmare " Your Weakling Fella , part of the fun is 3 knuckles to change plugs , wonderful motor though and mine is very smooth and torquey , makes the xy v8 seem very harsh

remember Jags had disks and ohc power with huge performance when falcadores had 5 turn steering and drum brakes with only 120 hp

[nb_351]

same with mercedes and the like, they had injection long before anything over here... the first motor with injection was in the 80s...
mercs had mechanical injection 20 years before that...
even things like irs, disc brakes etc... but thats what you paid for back then isnt it...
all you get now is a computer on wheels

[buickman]

Easiest the HQ-WB 6 cyl holdens the hardest are large V6 FWD cars and VANs and coming across a angry guard pig in a Self serve wrecking yard while concentrating of removing parts of a car


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[ZDHLANE]

As mentioned previously

-Nissan 300zx stands out
-Lets not forget the top bolt of starter motor on an Au falcon
-one of the worst cars ive worked on is a v6 2.5 vectra. The amount of crap you have to move to replace the valve cover gaskets is a shocker.

[big_landau]

easy
pre crossflow 6
hemi 6
holden 6

hard
anything after around 95 model but the fwd cars take the cake.

[Mark351]

Originally Posted by buickman

Easiest the HQ-WB 6 cyl holdens the hardest are large V6 FWD cars and VANs and coming across a angry guard pig in a Self serve wrecking yard while concentrating of removing parts of a car

Where is that yard buickman?

[dusty86]

millercycle V6 on a eunos 800 worst motor ever.

[XMPboy]

Mate, anywhere from the xk to the xc's too easy, lots of space and you only need a basic amount of knowledge to be able to maintain them properly.

[BPXR6T]

I'd say easiest to work on would be anything that's had a taxi badge slapped on it.

[samftr]

Originally Posted by BPXR6T

I'd say easiest to work on would be anything that's had a taxi badge slapped on it.

No way, that means dodgy wiring for half arsed gas installs!
Extra birds nests to work around!

[buickman]

Originally Posted by Mark351

Where is that yard buickman?

Gainesville Atlanta 2006

[stupa]

Easyest Ive dones the rb30 GQ patrol. Hardests the 4.5L GU followed by the 4.2L efi GQ and the E-Gas BA (Most skin ive lost in the shortest period by far)