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06-01-2010, 10:48 PM | #31 | ||
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thanks russ. Helpful link, lots of interesting data....
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06-01-2010, 10:57 PM | #32 | ||
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Maybe the falcons $36,990 driveaway XR6 deal is hurting the mondeo? When a mum & dad go into a local dealer to check out a mondeo and find next to it an XR6 with its body kit and wheels etc its a deal too good to refuse?
Having said that maybe im clutching at straws as the falcons sales seem to have stabilised at 2700-2900 odd. |
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06-01-2010, 10:59 PM | #33 | ||
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Looks like the SDIDIDIDIDI BS advertising worked. Theyre good.
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But there is talk of increasing the line rate when production resumes next week.
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06-01-2010, 11:41 PM | #35 | |||
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They say the G6ET is a large % of the sales i just wonder what percentage is XR6 NA...seems all the rental fleet falcons are XR6 etc. Its one thing saying 'X% are XR sales'....but what SORT of XR???
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06-01-2010, 11:56 PM | #36 | |||
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The XR8 is also just 2% or something silly. There was an article comparing the sedan/ute (where the XR8 sells strongly). Pretty sure it was an analysis about Burela's comment about the v8 having a future with Ford. Hello Coyote! The remainder are the XR6, XR6T, G6E, G6ET and the G6 which wasn't pulling it's weight at all, which is why the G6 SVP came about. Back in September 2009, they were talking about dealer allocation for the G6ET being booked out 4 months in advance. Limited by the ability to build the turbo mills. I reckon you'd have 60% XR6, 20% G6E, 15% split between XR6T/G6ET.
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07-01-2010, 12:00 AM | #37 | |||
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07-01-2010, 01:01 AM | #38 | |||
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07-01-2010, 01:57 AM | #39 | |||
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I for one will be buying a ford ute for the first time soon. I'd consider myself a Holden bloke, i genuinely reckon the Holden is a better car. But will still be buying a Ford this time round. For one reason only. Bench Seat! (due to the fact the missus will only go with a ute that will fit the 3 of us in it) There's 76 sales atleast. |
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07-01-2010, 02:55 AM | #40 | |||
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I ask because its not often we get a Holden fan on here that is both a: buying a ford instead of a holden b: is man enough to say he would still RATHER buy the holden...... Too bad Holden dont 'make a bench seat hey LOL!
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07-01-2010, 08:02 AM | #41 | ||
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The Holden has IRS rear end is perhaps the main benefit. It nearly had me going Maloo instead of F6 as I like to punt hard on gnarly country backroads and the Ford can get a little too snappy at the rear when surface gets rough, on smooth surfaces there is absolutely no problem, but when it roughs up then things can get pretty snap happy. My BF F6 on 18s wasn't too bad but on 19s it could get very skaty, the FG F6 rolls on 19s and seems better planted than the BF but perhaps a little softer. But really driving them back to back there is nothing that can put a smile on your dial like the F6 power delivery, I even like the look of the Maloo (in white) better but as a package the F6-ZF combination just can't be beat, the SP can't even challenge it let alone beat it, the Maloo can challenge but it is no match for the thrust of the F6 when overtaking etc.
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07-01-2010, 08:19 AM | #42 | ||
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I think Falcon had a really good year in 2009 if you look at the mix of models they sold (i.e. a lot of higher end private sales).
Can't understand the Commodore sales - I have driven many VE's - they are terrible from chassis handling to build quality (electrics anyone?), just rubbish. Oh well. New Fiesta looks like a very intersting car to me - great looks, awesome economy ect but I agree, like most of Fords smaller range it is overpriced for its segment. I'm not saying its bad value (its quite good value) but buyers in the small car segment shop on price as number 1 priority, its well known. They wouldn't even consider Fiesta when you have Barina, Getz/i20 undercutting it (even though its a much better car than these). Unless of course Ford are just going for niche sales (premium small car).
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07-01-2010, 08:33 AM | #43 | ||
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Hyundai looks like it was the big winner for 2009...........
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07-01-2010, 09:48 AM | #44 | |||
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If you hop into any car, different to the one you drive regularly, the handling and feel will be awkward. Throw in some negative brand bias and the driving experience will be a negative one. I remember taking an RX3 out for a drive when they were new, and like a true blooded Aussie there was no way it was going to be as good as the Fords and Holdens; it was better in so many ways to the local stuff, but it was "jap crap".... I even found myself having one of those conflict talks with my other self, which I won to my satisfaction. LOL |
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07-01-2010, 10:09 AM | #45 | ||
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Do we have all the wagon sales for the year and december?
Holden wagon falcon wagon mondeo wagon
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07-01-2010, 10:33 AM | #46 | |||
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I can't say for the upper spec Commodores but I have driven an Omega and what a heap of crap to drive and the interior is shocking. I'll take my BA over that anyday
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07-01-2010, 12:19 PM | #49 | |||
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07-01-2010, 12:38 PM | #50 | |||
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Base model VE's are ridiculously ordinary for handling and steering. Drivertrain is just a joke for a current model vehicle - I've driven EA Falcon's that were smoother and more refined. The BA Falcon has it's measure - FG slaughters it.
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07-01-2010, 01:36 PM | #51 | |||
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I'm talking here the base models not the flash SSV's or XR8's etc. Both have same sorta build quality, can handle the same conditions very well. So it comes down to whats included. The Holden ute comes with standard independent **** end, has a proper ute body and to top it off stability control as a standard feature. This last thing i feel is a major winner. Anyone who has been in a vehicle with ESC knows the hand of god effect this technology has when needed, a deadset life saver IMO. The ford on the other hand, has a better motor, FG looks pretty good, has the option of bench seats, and the Egas option is nice. Plus the live axle on these are pretty well bullet proof and can handle a decent load and not much can stuff up on a trusty live axle. The holden interior is pretty plane jane on the poverty pack, whilst being in the odd FG lately for test drives, i reckon the Ford interior is superior. I'm going to buy an FG ute or tonner with Egas. Or atleast i was, thinking about it now. Because if you want Egas you have to have the older 4 speed transmission and ESC is not even an option in the egas. Yet it is on the xr6 egas ute! IF i wanted an xr6 egas, i could get ESC. Yet the excuse for the base model not getting ESC is "it's incompatible with the electronics" HUH? I assume thats the same reason for the 4 speed on the egas? Holden are the same. You get the older ancient 4 speed on the Omega as well and the older motor(which maybe a good thing,I think the sidi motors are sus). So, yeah i think the holden overall is a better option, JUST. But Ford still have what we used to have in a ute. The option of a Bench seat, bullet proof rear end that can handle a fairdink load. And BTW, looks like i may go the petrol ute way, so i can get some of that 5 speed auto love and ESC option, and still have my Bench seat. |
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07-01-2010, 01:52 PM | #52 | |||
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I hope you enjoy your Falcon ute....by the sounds of it a R6 model might be the go if you can stretch to it...
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07-01-2010, 03:38 PM | #53 | ||
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Does anybody have the December sales figures?
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I suspect that you are right - the numbers between the two data sets (that set and the newly posted one) will differ as they use different criteria.
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Fixed now.
It was an error in the formula. Cheers Russ
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December Supplementary statistics 2009 Year end review 2009 Segment Analysis Cheers Russ
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07-01-2010, 07:11 PM | #60 | ||
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Is there data available on the sales breakdown of the model line up between the Falcon and Commodore i.e. the % of G6, G6E, XR6, XR6T, XR8 vs. Omega, Berlina, SS, SSV etc?
I'd be really interested to see whether the Falcon is becoming more of a higher-spec'd vehicle compared to the Commodore, and whether Ford is seen as producing a more desirable car compared to it's rival, Commodore.
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