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02-03-2010, 08:42 AM | #31 | |||
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02-03-2010, 09:33 AM | #32 | |||
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Seeing someone carted off to the coroner is very hard to digest... moreso of course if you are related or know the deceased... Sends a very clear message though... TAC take note... Next ad campaign... What will you miss out on??
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02-03-2010, 10:05 AM | #33 | |||
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Also, the Widowmaker comment was not meant to offend anyone, it was simply stating something that has been floating around in the press for a few years now.
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02-03-2010, 06:19 PM | #34 | |||
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02-03-2010, 06:32 PM | #35 | |||||
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All the Emergency teams deserve more credit and respect for their efforts - as you have pointed out clearly in a couple of threads now, these images are burnt in to their brains for a long time (forever in most cases)
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02-03-2010, 06:54 PM | #36 | |||
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Having said that, as hard as it is, we do become desensitised to it. It is the pedestrians, motorists and neighbours etc that I feel for. These a people that are forgotten about when it come to critical incident management support. I always try to remember to ask if they are ok, not much but at least if we ask they may realise we care about them too.
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I do also say it's a sad loss of life.
One thing that does annoy me though is this Comment Both were highly experienced and responsible drivers. Well, thats all good and well on the track but to be doing that in a place like they were, If it were someone in a family car with family onboard, would have been a different story. Maybe Experienced but Not responsible. My 2c
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02-03-2010, 07:27 PM | #38 | |||
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completely agree, that was really disrespectful and was pretty sickening to see
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02-03-2010, 07:36 PM | #39 | |||
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02-03-2010, 07:40 PM | #40 | ||||
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My condolences to the families of the victims, thoughts with the driver of the truck and the EMS personnel and any witnesses/members of public who offered assistance
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I wasn't there but from the article, your responses Gecko and the pics, i thinking the same way, that something weird/obscure/completely unexpected/etc has happened, possibly the reason the long-term customer took it there in first place.
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02-03-2010, 08:33 PM | #41 | |||
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For anyone that cares, that was a quote given to me from an SES volunteer who had seen far too many car crashes with oncoming trucks. My apologies if that short hand quote offended any of you or worse, victims families. Those of you that know me know that I don't joke about this stuff, I ask the rest of you to give me the benefit of the doubt and let's move on... |
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02-03-2010, 08:55 PM | #42 | |||
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02-03-2010, 08:58 PM | #43 | ||
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lost for words a bit with I think gecko's input into this accident, really brings another dimension to it. My sister in laws father works for the SES and he has some very sobering stories.
RIP to those involved and condolences to the victims families and everyone who is involved
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02-03-2010, 09:20 PM | #44 | |||
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condolences to all touched by this . |
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02-03-2010, 10:17 PM | #45 | |||
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02-03-2010, 10:35 PM | #46 | |||
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A coping mechanism used by many emergency services personnel is the 'black humour' jokes. It helps many cope with the graphic sights that are outlayed in front of them. I actually formulated a lecture for Qld Paramedics, and use a fair bit of 'black humour' when I'm talking about death to trainee paramedics.
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02-03-2010, 10:56 PM | #47 | ||
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Gecko, you should (and I know you do) hold your head high as you are regarded as one of the best paramedics in the state. It only takes a recent decision to support it. (gecko knows what Im talking about) If there was any chance at all, you would have given it to them both.
But people like Gecko do it for a reason and its completely selfless. I know every time my pager went off I was given the responsibility of life. You treat patients or the deceased with the up-most respect and dignity. It gives us a good feeling of knowing we have done something truly amazing that majority of the population well never understand, we don't seek thanks as the self satisfaction of doing our best to make a difference is enough. I find myself talking to patients even when I'm doing CPR compressions, and if the patient unfortunately doesn't make it I still continue to talk and even say goodbye when I transport and place in the "butterfly room". The youth of today isn't desensitised as much as we think, however its the "it wont happen to me" mentality that effects their attitude. Tragic loss of life, may the family and friends celebrate their life.
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02-03-2010, 10:59 PM | #48 | |||
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As disrespectful as that may sound to everyone, it is a VERY VERY important part of debriefing and enabling these professionals to wake up the next day, get into their overalls, and get back into that ambulance.
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02-03-2010, 11:06 PM | #49 | |||
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I don't know how you do your job Gecko, I couldn't cope with all the tragedy you experience it would drive me to drink. Much respect!
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02-03-2010, 11:12 PM | #50 | ||
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Originally Posted by mickxr8 [QUOTE=SLO AU XR8 especially when you are driving something like a 996 GT2, wet weather + a car that is known as the Widowmaker... jeez !. i bet the widows are going to love reading that.!. i kind of hoped as per ^^ we would let the dust settle...[/QUOTE] I was simply stating that I agreed with the statement that it is better to NOT let your excitement over rule any better judgement you have. The fact that in the motoring world, the 996 GT2, which is the car the two men were in, is commonly known as the Widowmaker doesn't help the situation. Until the official report has been released, there are nothing but assumptions as to how this accident happened. Also, the Widowmaker comment was not meant to offend anyone, it was simply stating something that has been floating around in the press for a few years now. sorry SLO AU XR8. went off a bit half c*ocked last night but this stuff touched a raw nerve. going to funerals is not fun.... all i ask is wait till the investigation is done (then draw an opinion). let the familys grieve in peace.
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02-03-2010, 11:19 PM | #51 | |||
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Why do realitives need to see this? They are probly 100 times more mature and better driver than you.....Very very very poor form showing those pics |
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Saw the first couple of pictures and uttered nothing but the 'F word" a couple of times...
Condolences to all families, and I hope the truckie is okay because he'd be feeling pretty bad too...
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03-03-2010, 12:29 AM | #54 | |||
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I was shocked when I first joined St Johns. Listening to some of the things said, after having performed an unsuccessful CPR and the longer I have done my work, I realize just how important having humor, even about death, can be. |
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03-03-2010, 12:44 AM | #55 | |||
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Normally we see those crash photos, and it doesn't affect me...yet tonight I have tears for two men I never met, their families who have nothing but memories, and those who had to deal with the aftermath.
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03-03-2010, 10:13 AM | #56 | |||
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I'm not suggesting we send the relatives the link, but obviously the news websites are the new way that rubber-necks that weren't on the scene can see what has happened.... So thanks for the personal attack on my driving skills... obviously my literary comments warranted it... (???)
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But, as you have knowledge, 1st hand experience, and are at the cold-face of these type of incidents... I will take that on board and be thankful that I've never lost anyone to a road accident (and hope that I never do). Thanks, GeckoGT.
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03-03-2010, 02:17 PM | #59 | |||
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Sorry to get off topic. RIP to those who lost their lives, and probably just doing their job. And thoughts go out to the truck driver. And a final comment to Gecko.... Respect is all that I can say to you mate. Sam |
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03-03-2010, 05:50 PM | #60 | ||||
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Very well said and you have probably explained what I was trying to say better than I have. I know when I lost 5 work mates in a truck accident in malaysia (whilst I was in the Army) I must have read every article on it. You are probably right, it is part of the processing and grieving that you must go through before you can put it behind you. Quote:
Regarding me being able to help the victims. At this scene I was the station officer in charge of QAS services, so I had no clinical input. I can tell you the advanced care paramedics (two of them), Intensive care paramedics (3 of them) and the trauma specialist doctor that we had on scene are all first rate and some of the finest you will find in the world. I see all those that turned up as the A team of emergency medical care and I could not think of a better mob to treat me if I was in trouble. I appreciate all the positive comments about what we do, as would my colleagues. But this thread is not about us, it is about those that are more directly affected by this tragedy, so lets keep the focus on these deserving people. I sometimes wonder if we all feel a little more connected to this as Fulcrum are in many ways a member of our own Ford loving community and in a way we have lost some of our friends in this. Many of us have had work done by these guys and our forum has benefited from their skills, knowledge and commitment on many occasions. Guess it always stings more when it is a bit closer to home.
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