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View Poll Results: Which Gear?
Top Gear, I like the comedy 91 53.85%
Top Gear Australia, like the poms only better 2 1.18%
Fifth Gear, A car show about cars tested by drivers 8 4.73%
Fifth Gear OZ, a new show that is fair dinkum and does not care about upsetting zealots 4 2.37%
The pommy ones, Australian shows suck. 18 10.65%
The Aussie ones, who cares about things that are not available here 0 0%
They are all good, the more the better 44 26.04%
Meh, it is all "so you think you can drive" meets "thank God you are here" 2 1.18%
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Old 15-03-2010, 01:09 PM   #31
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I love the chick on 5th Gear, especailly when she squeals like a little girl and she can drive a car.
Sometimes the seat belt cuts in tightly too if you know what I mean.
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She is really growing on me...............


TG kills 5th Gear on entertainment value.
Tiff is annoying and some of their tests/comparisons are ****y (not unlike TG Aus......)
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Just off topic, I think the name "Newton" comes from the words "New Town". So it wasn't such a silly mistake.
No, it's an even bigger mistake.
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Just off topic, I think the name "Newton" comes from the words "New Town". So it wasn't such a silly mistake.
Aaahhh, what?

I was taught at school that the measurement of Newton metres come from the amount of twisting force exerted by 1 newton of force over a 1m lever arm.

A newton is the amount of force required to accellerate 1 kg at a rate of 1 second per second.

Where did the name from, well that would be Isaac Newton, the man who discovered all this clever stuff.

So, you are incorrect, the reference to New Town is completely off the mark
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I think the name "Newton" comes from the words "New Town". So it wasn't such a silly mistake.
Do you seriously believe that ?
Seriously ?
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Old 15-03-2010, 06:04 PM   #35
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Top Gear for sure, the others ok but no where near as funny, which is what makes TG the most watched show on the planet!
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i've always sung the praises of fifth gear and gone against the 'TOP GEAR RULES MAN' grain that exists on the internet.

Tif is a very good driver and knows his stuff
Jason is an ex champ and holds his own with tif very well
Vicki is a nutbag and can certainly steer well.
Tom is 5th gear's version of James May, but he's a giggle

It's a shame it was canned, but the majority of yokels prefer the scripted 'hilarity' of Top Gear, so ratings rule.
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Do you seriously believe that ?
Seriously ?
Ok, the "name" NEWTON came from the words New Town, in which it became a common last name. Isaac Newton had that last name. 1 Newton of force is the amount of force to move 1kg at a rate of 1m/s/s. It is approximately 10kg of force. Torque is a measurement of force over distance. In metric, it is measured in Nm.

Oh and here is a reference on the origin of the name, "Newton."
http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.f...mily-crest.htm

I think the origin of the name Newton came before Isaac Newton and his laws of physics. Since the name Newton came about after 1066 AD, and Isaac Newton wasn't born until 1643.....

So in answer to your question, YES! I believe that. Seriously!

Seriously people (XW 393 and GeckoGT), if you want to make an argument, do some research first.


Anyway, as I was saying... Top Gear UK is the only car show worth watching!

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Ok, the "name" NEWTON came from the words New Town, in which it became a common last name. Isaac Newton had that last name. 1 Newton of force is the amount of force to move 1kg at a rate of 1m/s/s. It is approximately 10kg of force. Torque is a measurement of force over distance. In metric, it is measured in Nm.

Oh and here is a reference on the origin of the name, "Newton."
http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.f...mily-crest.htm

I think the origin of the name Newton came before Isaac Newton and his laws of physics. Since the name Newton came about after 1066 AD, and Isaac Newton wasn't born until 1643.....

So in answer to your question, YES! I believe that. Seriously!

Seriously people (XW 393 and GeckoGT), if you want to make an argument, do some research first.


Anyway, as I was saying... Top Gear UK is the only car show worth watching!
1500 years ago a group of Scottish highlanders ground up some wild wheat mixed it with water and used it to hold a lump of rotting meat while they ate it. The ancient gaelic words for "I feel like spewing" are "muck dawn awlde".

And that is why the clown has red hair........

http://www.wikipedia.forum/1000usele...s/dribble.html
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Ok, the "name" NEWTON came from the words New Town, in which it became a common last name. Isaac Newton had that last name. 1 Newton of force is the amount of force to move 1kg at a rate of 1m/s/s. It is approximately 10kg of force. Torque is a measurement of force over distance. In metric, it is measured in Nm.

Oh and here is a reference on the origin of the name, "Newton."
http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.f...mily-crest.htm

I think the origin of the name Newton came before Isaac Newton and his laws of physics. Since the name Newton came about after 1066 AD, and Isaac Newton wasn't born until 1643.....

So in answer to your question, YES! I believe that. Seriously!

Seriously people (XW 393 and GeckoGT), if you want to make an argument, do some research first.


Anyway, as I was saying... Top Gear UK is the only car show worth watching!
You sure that's not 10 Newtons required to move 1KG at 1m/s?
I think you'll find that 1 Newton = 1/9.8kg force, or 0.98kg force.

I don't want to make an argument because I didn't research it; this is from my days at school studying physics.
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You sure that's not 10 Newtons required to move 1KG at 1m/s?
I think you'll find that 1 Newton = 1/9.8kg force, or 0.98kg force.

I don't want to make an argument because I didn't research it; this is from my days at school studying physics.
1 Newton of force to accelerate 1kg of mass at 1 metre per second per second in a completely theoretical and frictionless (and zero resistance) environment. 1N = 9.8kg, you are correct I just said roughly 10kg. Pretty sure it is 1 Newton of force, not 10.
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my cats breath smells like cat food!!!
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Its back on-topic... almost.... isnt that what this thread was about....TV shows?

BTW, I like all the shows, except the Aussie Top Gear.......which sucked (but I still watched it).
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Its back on-topic... almost.... isnt that what this thread was about....TV shows?

BTW, I like all the shows, except the Aussie Top Gear.......which sucked (but I still watched it).


I had to make a point, I got lost as to where the thread changed to newton and where his daddys dad was born and how many turns of the wheel make the wheel go round....
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Seriously let it go dude.
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Well Top Gear just got a huge tick when the winner of the most great models made competition (viewer poll) was ...........FORD
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Which was brilliant, but as Clarkson went on to say.... Your all wrong, its Lancia.
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1500 years ago a group of Scottish highlanders ground up some wild wheat mixed it with water and used it to hold a lump of rotting meat while they ate it. The ancient gaelic words for "I feel like spewing" are "muck dawn awlde".

And that is why the clown has red hair........

http://www.wikipedia.forum/1000usele...s/dribble.html
I always wondered why the clown was a ranga. Thanks for clearing it up!!!

Is this guy here based on one of those Scottish Highlanders? -> :
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TG

VBH is annoying.

So what if a female can drive, she is annoying as sin!
(that laugh makes me cringe like nails on a chalk board)
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if you have a 5 speed gearbox top gear = fifth gear.... :

and that chick from fifth gear has a horrible voice - I know what I would do to shut her up....
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my favorite was fifth gear about 4 years ago when it was only about cars.
they lost the plot after they got jason plato on.
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my favorite was fifth gear about 4 years ago when it was only about cars.
they lost the plot after they got jason plato on.
Top Gear got good when they got rid of Jason Dawe. It's the Jasons letting everyone down!
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and that chick from fifth gear has a horrible voice - I know what I would do to shut her up....
That's dispicable. Imagine threatening to put duct tape over someones mouth. :
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BTW, I noticed channel 9 are showing top gear for 1hr 10 minutes so they don't further edit the international version. Well done.
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I like all the different car shows they all have their good and bad points. Fifth gear is more car oriented than TG, TG is all about cars and humor much like the footy show talks footy but has you in tears with the BS they spin, I think all these shows have a place but obviously TG will appeal to a broader public as its not all about cars
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Did anyone see the Astra VXR (HSV) vs Focus ST (XR5) last night?
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Fifth gear has always been the more technical, clinical of the two shows largely due to the credibility of the drivers employed. Tiff and Vik are exceptional drivers and Jason a class act in his own right.

The problem for me is that sometimes cars can be too clinical, too good and what you get from Top gear is that they hit at the entire relationship of car ownership, not simply which is best. Sometimes the best car isn't the one they would buy and I appreciate and really relate to it.

The spirit, the essence of Topgear, is about a chemistry of three presenters that embodies car ownership, automotive love that surpasses steel and rubber. It’s a boyish fascination of speed and power that is entertaining. Its irreverent, it’s politically incorrect in an age that smacks of how dare they.

It’s successful in ways that represent an unspoken notion that sometimes too much goodness in the world is surely enough and that sometimes character plays just as important part.

The road trips are epic and for me a highlight. Road trips rule in so many ways. The best one is still to come this season and I hope Nine don’t edit it.
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That's dispicable. Imagine threatening to put duct tape over someones mouth. :
duct tape.. yes thats what I meant.....
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Apparently not.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/25/f...turn-in-april/

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Fans of British car shows take heart. Nope, we're not talking about Top Gear, but it's cross-town rival Fifth Gear. The Channel 5 car show that picked up after the original Top Gear was canceled was itself the victim of cutbacks recently. In the face of reduced viewership (compared to the five million who watch Top Gear regularly) and reduced ad revenue from belt-tightening automakers, network executives canceled the show back in October. By December, however, sources indicated that there was still a heartbeat and a glimmer of hope.

Now reports suggest that, following an outpouring of support, the network has agreed to keep Fifth Gear alive, albeit with some changes. The new Fifth Gear will apparently leave the studio permanently to focus directly on the test drives in a bid to lure hard-core enthusiasts disgruntled with Top Gear's decided emphasis on shenanigans. Two of the six presenters – Tom Ford and Tim Shaw – have also been dropped, leaving Vicki Butler-Henderson, Jonny Smith, Tiff Needell and Jason Plato to present the show.

With the revised format, Fifth Gear has reportedly been approved for two more seasons, with the first starting only a month away in late April, beating Top Gear's late-summer return to the punch. Apparently the Discovery network has been contracted to broadcast the show in other European markets outside the UK, so here's hoping we'll get the shows Stateside as well.

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