New Car Sales Achieve A Record September Result

[Resurrection]

The problem is not with the Falcon - the problem is with the brand/product perception.

[Falcman0o7]

God i hope corolla knocks that over rated coke tin of the top and then BRAG ABOUT IT!

[b0son]

Originally Posted by vztrt

FPV invested in the motor. They run their own budget. Also the motor if exported will be a success for FPV.

It wont be. If any coyote will be exported, it will be the NA motor from the US... and even that's unlikely considering the world trend is away from bigger engines.

As for V8 sales I guess HSV is shutting up shop.

HSV dont need to (yet), they comfortably outsell FPV year after year.

[outback_ute]

Originally Posted by XWGT

Hate to be pedantic but Prados price STARTS where Territory stops......and keeps heading over the $100k mark for the all singing all dancing model.

Mind you the new Prado is damn good ( I should know, I bought 2) but to see it at that sales level considering its price probably reflects more on the Territory lack of a diesel as someone pointed out earlier.

Fair call, just using that as one of the T's main competitors - missed the Captiva on 1300-odd sales. Oops...

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by b0son

It wont be. If any coyote will be exported, it will be the NA motor from the US... and even that's unlikely considering the world trend is away from bigger engines.

HSV dont need to (yet), they comfortably outsell FPV year after year.

Coyote and Miami are different. A supercharged OEM motor can be very beneficial.

HSV only sell V8's and they do well so there is a market for V8's. In terms of O/S smaller FI V8's are more appealing then large capacity V8's.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by vztrt

HSV only sell V8's and they do well so there is a market for V8's.

For the time being. But have you ntoiced how more and more hot models are making it from OS? And a top of the range HSV isnt exactly cheap. It makes euro performance models all the more appealing.

The public is gradually turning away from brute force type cars. They want more refinement, better tech, etc.

In terms of O/S smaller FI V8's are more appealing then large capacity V8's.

Absolutely. But 5.0 is not nearly small enough for most people. Where's the export potential? Europe? No. Asia? No. US? Well, they already have extensive catalogues of engines to choose from, so again, no.

My gut tells me the next generation falcadore will be the last with 5L+ engines. Performance is more likely to be smaller capacity 6's ... twin turbo maybe... ?

[SpoolMan]

Originally Posted by Wretched

20. Fiesta 911

Such a great little car and a top seller in Europe the message isn't getting through to Aussies....

[vztrt]

NZ market shaken but not stirred

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2577B4001CDB62

Earthquake, tax hike and other disasters fail to derail motor sales recovery

6 October 2010

By JACQUI MADELIN in NEW ZEALAND

NEW Zealand new-vehicle sales continued their steady climb last month, with 2010 sales reaching 59,836 after nine months, up 14.1 per cent over the same period of 2009.

Year to date, passenger car numbers are up 13.6 per cent, to 6298 units, while commercials are up 15.8 per cent, to 1646. Used import numbers have risen 34.5 per cent, to 68,073.

This despite the Canterbury earthquake, collapse of South Canterbury Finance, a 2.5 per cent sales tax rise to 15 per cent and severe storms at lambing time.

However, the industry reported little effect from these events.

Motor Industry Association CEO Perry Kerr said some private buyers purchased because of the GST lift but not in huge numbers.

Instead, the sales rise was mainly being driven by fleet replacement, he said.

Toyota is on track for its 23rd year on top of the NZ new-vehicle market, topping sales to the end of September, with 12,383 vehicles – a rise of 17.2 per cent.

Ford sits second with 6881 sales, up six per cent, and Holden is third on 5806, up 19.7 per cent.

Mazda consolidates fourth with 4836, up 14.9 per cent, ahead of Hyundai on 4125, up 9.9 per cent.

Nissan’s 4085 sales are up 22 per cent on last year, marking a share increase from 6.17 to 6.83 per cent.

Nissan NZ managing director John Manley said: “We are faring much better, with Qashqai adding to volume. The market is definitely on the turn, but not as strongly as some would like.”

Suzuki sits seventh with 3484, up 21.4 per cent. Its marketing general manager Tom Peck cites strong sales for Swift, the launch of three updates and the introduction of Kizashi, with buyers largely coming out of Euro brands.

“The Canterbury earthquake had an effect, as Christchurch is our biggest dealer,” he said.

“There was not much impact from the collapse of Canterbury Finance, but finance company collapses are unsettling private buyers who remain cautious.”

Mitsubishi’s share rose from 4.45 per cent last year to 5.66 to the end September, its 3384 sales up 41.4 per cent for eighth place.

Mitsubishi general manager sales and marketing Warren Brown said the arrival of ASX boosted sales in September, but stock losses from Southland’s storms would impact sales in the last quarter through lost revenue.

He said confidence levels were still fragile, but “we’re expecting a slow but steady pick-up”.

Honda still languishes in ninth place on 1890 sales – a drop of 16.4 per cent on last year.

After 18 months of falling sales, Honda is pinning its hopes on the arrival of the Insight hybrid and the publicity spin-off from this month’s EnergyWise economy rally.

Honda NZ head of marketing Graeme Myer said Insight “means Honda has a hatchback for the first time since Civic ended in 2005, and it will stimulate interest in dealers.” However, he is not expecting stock – and therefore sales – until November.

VW rounds out the top 10 with 1814 sales, up 18.8 per cent.

Meanwhile, Subaru threatens Kia. Its 47.5 per cent increase took it to 1593 sales, just 27 units short of the Korean’s 1620, a 1.1 per cent rise on last year.

Subaru managing director Wallis Dumper says: “We’re on fire.

“The business hasn’t succumbed to the need to jump into the discount market, so it’s kept stability.”

He also cites consistent brand marketing, “and we’ve focused on the fact the cars are now a lot more economical – a whole lot of little things has kept the brand out there.”

Audi is up 29.2 per cent for 1053 sales and leads the luxury table by 16 vehicles from Mercedes-Benz.

Manufacturers predict the market to end the year up about 14 per cent, with sales lifting a further five to eight per cent over the next two years.

The top-selling model so far this year is Toyota HiLux on 2889, followed by Toyota Corolla on 2843, Suzuki Swift at 2116, Nissan Navara on 1757 and Holden Commodore at 1651 sales.

NZ top 10 makes September 2010:
Rank Make Sales % Share
1 Toyota 1897 23.88%
2 Ford 1080 13.6%
3 Holden 593 7.4%
4 Mazda 559 7.04%
5 Nissan 544 6.85%
6 Hyundai 475 5.98%
7 Mitsubishi 469 5.9%
8 Suzuki 397 5.0%
9 Volkswagen 285 3.59%
10 Kia 192 2.42%

[csv8]

Why are Ford sales nearly double Holden sales in NZ ??????
Are our Kiwi cousins smarter than us !!!!!!!
Send our FORD marketing dept to NZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dannyhilton]

Originally Posted by csv8

Why are Ford sales nearly double Holden sales in NZ ?????? Are our Kiwi cousins smarter than us !!!!!!! Send our FORD marketing dept to NZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Toyota is almost double Ford though, so they can't be that bright! I believe the rentals love the Focus/Mondeo over there, as last time I was in NZ the rental parks at the airport were PACKED FULL of Fords. Still, I'd love to see Ford at number two here, but as it is it seems we'll settle for third/forth, for now anyway! Bring on 2011.

[ford man xf]

Dont know if anyone else read this and went WTF!?:

A NEW interior helped the Holden Commodore defy the downward trend in large family cars, new car sales figures show.
The Commodore sold 4038 units last month to maintain its status as Australia's favourite car.

It was almost 300 sales up on the August figures, helped by the launch of the VE II model with a more modern touch screen and ethanol-friendly engines.

The upgrades were enough to persuade Albert McCormack to pick up the keys to his new car from Alan Mance Holden.

"I've had a few Commodores and I've found the Holdens to be more durable than the Fords," he said.

"The performance seems to stay in them longer and they don't get as many rattles."

By comparison, the Ford Falcon sold only 2265 cars to be sixth on the Vfacts monthly sales figures.
Overall car sales were up in most segments, though, with 267 cars sold a day.

That puts the industry on track for a million-plus annual sales bonanza, according to the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries.

More importantly, said FCAI chief executive Andrew McKellar, sales to private buyers recorded the largest increase last month - up 14.2 per cent.

He said this is "further evidence of renewed confidence in the market place".

Mazda - traditionally a brand biased to private owners rather than fleet sales - bounced Ford to become the nation's third most popular marque, helped by more than 3800 sales of the Mazda3.

That put the mid-sized Mazda ahead of the Toyota HiLux and Toyota Corolla, though Toyota is clearly the overall market leader with three models in the top 10.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/nat...-1225934558875

Is that for real? What the hell did some random guy buying a car and paying out on Ford for losing performance and having rattles when ageing? Did they ask any of the Ford, Toyota, Mazda etc. buyers why they bought their brand new car?

[vztrt]

http://www.caradvice.com.au/85853/ne...eptember-2010/

New Vehicle Sales Figures September 2010
By Alborz Fallah | October 6th, 2010

September 2010 Australian Car Industry Figures

1 Toyota 16,185
2 Holden 10,718
3 Mazda 8,850
4 Ford 8,288
5 Hyundai 6,120
6 Mitsubishi 5,314
7 Nissan 4,689
8 Volkswagen 3,225
9 Subaru 3,105
10 Honda 2,582
11 Mercedes-Benz 2,310
12 Suzuki 2,173
13 Kia 2,014
14 BMW 1,709
15 Audi 1,110
16 Great Wall Motors 668
17 Jeep 472
18 Isuzu 463
19 Land Rover 411
20 Peugeot 409
21 Volvo 407
22 Lexus 318
23 Renault 204
24 Porsche 194
25 Skoda 187
26 MINI 175
27 Dodge 170
28 Proton 156
29 Citroen 145
30 Fiat 112
31 Ssangyong 95
32 Alfa Romeo 72
33 Chrysler 68
34 Jaguar 65
35 Ferrari 15
36 Smart 15
37 Maserati 11
38 Aston Martin 9
39 Bentley 5
40 Lotus 5
41 Saab 5
42 Rolls-Royce 4
43 Hummer 3
44 Lamborghini 2
45 Morgan 1



Light Car Segment Winners :

Mazda2
Hyundai Getz
Toyota Yaris
Small Car Segment Winners:

Mazda3
Toyota Corolla
Holden Cruze
Medium Car Segment Winners:

Toyota Camry
Mercedes-Benz C-Class
Mazda6
Large Car Segment Winners:

Holden Commodore
Ford Falcon
Toyota Aurion
Upper Large Car Segment Winners:

Holden Caprice
Chrysler 300C
Audi A8 / BMW 7 Series (tied)
People Mover Segment Winners:

Kia Carnival
Hyundai iMAX
Toyota Tarago
Sports Segment Winners:

Mercedes-Benz E-Class Cpe/Conv
Volkswagen EOS
Mercedes-Benz CLC-Class
SUV Compact Segment Winners:

Toyota RAV4
Subaru Forester
Mazda CX-7
SUV Medium Segment Winners:

Toyota Prado
Holden Captiva
Ford Territory
Large Segment Winners:

Toyota Landcruiser Wagon
Nissan Patrol Wagon
SUV Luxury Segment Winners:

BMW X5
Mercedes-Benz M-Class
BMW X1

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by ford man xf

Dont know if anyone else read this and went WTF!?:




http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/nat...-1225934558875

Is that for real? What the hell did some random guy buying a car and paying out on Ford for losing performance and having rattles when ageing? Did they ask any of the Ford, Toyota, Mazda etc. buyers why they bought their brand new car?

WHAT A JOKE!

I just commented on his professionalism but I dont think it will get published, all above board and no swearing.

[Gobes32]

Originally Posted by ford man xf

Dont know if anyone else read this and went WTF!?:




http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/nat...-1225934558875

Is that for real? What the hell did some random guy buying a car and paying out on Ford for losing performance and having rattles when ageing? Did they ask any of the Ford, Toyota, Mazda etc. buyers why they bought their brand new car?

Because Ecotec's never rattle, and I6's do............. (insert sarcasm)

[Joe5619]

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...007-168sb.html

Seems there is nothing wrong with the marketing department after all!!! So Ford has some of the best cars, has THE BEST adds, yet aren't selling... There is still clearly something missing??

[vztrt]

Ford and Holden slug it out in ute market

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2577C70009EDB6

Local manufacturers go down swinging in light truck battle for silver medal

25 October 2010

By RON HAMMERTON

FORD and Holden are locked in a familiar battle for second place in the Australian light commercial vehicle (LCV) market this year, with both clasping 14.5 per cent of sales with three months to go.

After being pipped by Ford for the past two years running, Holden this year is holding a slim margin – 19,830 sales to Ford’s 19,799 – thanks to a wafer-thin 0.1 per cent increase compared with Ford’s 3.0 per cent decline in an overall segment that has risen 7.7 per cent year to date.

Of course, both are vastly out-punched by long-time market leader Toyota, whose 42,771 sales – up 12.7 per cent – represent a dominant 31.3 per cent share of the segment.

But of greater concern for both of the American-owned local manufacturers is the need to arrest their steep LCV sales decline over the past six years under the unremitting assault from a growing number of rivals from Japan, Korea, Europe and China.

In 2004, Ford and Holden together controlled almost 50 per cent of the Australian light truck and van market – Holden with 29.1 per cent and Ford with 20 per cent.

Their locally made utes were flying, with Holden’s VY Commodore-based ute peaking at 22,374 sales, lifted by the born-again One-Tonner cab-chassis along with the crew-cab Crewman and its all-wheel-drive spin-off, the Cross8.

In 2004, Ford’s Falcon Ute was also north of 20,000 units for the second year in a row.

By last year, the Holden Ute – now minus the Crewman and One-Tonner variants that were dropped from production with the change to the VE Ute in late 2007 – had slid about 45 per cent to 12,106 sales.

Likewise, its local rival had dived to an uncannily similar number – 12,180 units – achieved only with a huge 11th hour registration push by the Blue Oval in December, when Falcon Ute sales jumped almost 65 per cent over the corresponding month the year before.

This year, Holden is expected to sell a similar number of its recently upgraded VE Series II utes – about 12,000 – but Ford’s local hero is down 14.7 per cent after nine months and only another heroic push towards December 31 could reverse that. At current pace, it is on track to achieve about 9600 units – less than half its volume of six years ago.

Both companies are increasingly dependent on their ageing imported utes, which are both made in Thailand, along with most other one-tonners sold in this country.

Holden’s Colorado (nee Rodeo) and Ford’s Ranger both have well-documented replacements in the pipeline for release in this country about 2012. Until then, it will be a matter of trying to make the most of what they have against an increasingly torrid competition, including a younger Toyota HiLux, Nissan’s split-range D22/D40 Navara, Mitsubishi’s Triton and – soon – the Volkswagen Amarok.

Holden’s decline in LCV volumes has not been the sole fault of its Commodore ute.

When Holden’s Isuzu-based Rodeo was new in 2004, its sales topped 24,000 units – about 2000 more than the Commodore load-lugger.

This year, sales of the re-named but essentially similar Colorado are down almost 5.0 per cent on last year alone, and should see out 2010 on about 14,000 units. That’s still about 2000 units more than its local Commodore ute stablemate, but also represents a decline of almost 40 per cent over Rodeo in just six years.

Some of those sales may have gone to the fledgling Isuzu Ute, which started up in opposition to former partner Holden with its own version of the Rodeo, the D-Max, after GM and Isuzu went their separate ways a couple of years ago.

This year, Isuzu has sold 3659 D-Max utes – a gain of almost 70 per cent year to date – making it Australia’s second-fastest-growing LCV brand after Hyundai (+84.4 per cent).

Speaking of Hyundai, the Korean importer has been another source of pain for the local companies, particularly Ford.

While Hyundai does not have a ute – yet – its iLoad van is roaring up the charts, while Ford’s rival Transit has gone the other direction, down 30.9 per cent this year to 1292 units to the end of September. Volkswagen’s Transporter (+35.8 per cent) has also has a hand in this.

Holden’s smaller Combo van is down 25 per cent, to 450 vehicles YTD, but its pain is mainly coming from other European-made mini delivery vans, including the Citroen Berlingo (+38.8 per cent) and Volkswagen Caddy (+2.9 per cent).