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12-12-2010, 10:34 PM | #31 | |||
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OMG, I like your way of thinking there 388cube_edxr8 That would be a niche market for potential development yeah?? .
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13-12-2010, 12:30 AM | #32 | |||
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13-12-2010, 12:55 PM | #33 | ||
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I was under the impression that the Ranger concept/production ready that they displayed at Sydney Motor Show this year was being designed or already set to spawn an SUV variant from it?
The most realistic connection I can make is that to the Nissan Navara D40 and Nissan Pathfinder R51. For all intensive purposes they are the same car except one is a ute, the other is an SUV. Front end treatment is identical and the interior is much the same.
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13-12-2010, 01:32 PM | #34 | |||
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This is the law and there is no way round it so all of a sudden every single combination doubles in price and no one will buy any. Or are you quite happy to pay $130,000 for your V8 Territory or wagon? |
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13-12-2010, 03:08 PM | #35 | |||
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13-12-2010, 03:29 PM | #36 | |||
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so why don't we just start with what people are actually buying and work from there: Platform(s) that can cover: -two cars, Focus and Mondeo Sized. - Two SUVs, Escape and Territory sized. Getting those four vehicles to fit under a Falcon/Territory engineering platform would be an absolute nightmare or at least a knife edge balance between excessive weight in the smaller vehicles to insufficient strength in the larger ones. When we get through sorting out the vehicle that can fit under platforms, the engineering required, who will actually buy then and for what price we might have a business case. Once you get to there, you have to convince the financiers that developing those four RWDs is worthwhile compared to selling Focus, Mondeo, Kuga and Territory/Explorer. |
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15-12-2010, 08:28 AM | #37 | ||||
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Flappist, you make a good point about extensive testing, but I think we can rule out a few combos from the test group straight away. the EcoBoost 4banger, for example, would not be available with lifted suspension or 4wd in and models. The Mustang would remain more or less as it is now, with the only difference being a choice of I6, I6T or SCV8, and a choice of live axle or IRS. The Territory would not be available with the EcoBoost, thats just silly.
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15-12-2010, 09:12 PM | #38 | ||
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No V8 Territory solely comes down to the lack of possible sales, and the fact it would be a total pig on juice. The 6's use enough fuel as is.
V8 SUV's have a bad image. You can imagine the headlines if Ford released a guzzling V8 Territory. Ford US have reacted to the bad image by not releasing a V8 version of the new Explorer, its V6 or V6 Ecoboost only, with a 4 banger EB engine on the way. |
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16-12-2010, 05:40 PM | #39 | |||
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16-12-2010, 05:46 PM | #40 | |||
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16-12-2010, 07:14 PM | #41 | |||
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16-12-2010, 07:21 PM | #42 | |||
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I am confident it would outsell a V8 territory 10 to 1....... |
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17-12-2010, 06:51 PM | #43 | |||
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Not a lot, just had painted door handles put on but that’s all for now. Territory is semi-retired as my energy is now directed towards my Subaru Liberty GT Turbo. |
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17-12-2010, 07:33 PM | #44 | |||
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different buyers but performance and good fuel economy is now essential. |
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18-12-2010, 04:50 PM | #45 | |||
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