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Old 12-11-2013, 11:38 AM   #31
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certainly a handsome looking vehicle.
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I haven't payed much attention to these cars in the past, have they always had the Aston Martin style badge?.
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Anyone else find it ironic the Koreans are testing a RWD large sedan with a V6 and V8 in 2013?
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Very ironic. Then again, the price point will be the biggest swayer if it makes it all the way here.
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Bentley just called, they want their badges back. Do they think people are stupid enough to be confused by the badges enough to thinks it's a Bentley or something?

Looks too much like a 5 series with a SsangYong Stavic grille.
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Old 12-11-2013, 09:24 PM   #36
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The old saying "A fool and their money are soon parted" comes to mind, because that's exactly what Hyundai buyers are - fools. Steal design cues from various other marques, throw in some fancy gimmicks and you will reel them in. Too bad the core product is typical cheap and nasty disposable Korean crap.
With so much choice these days I cannot fathom how a Hyundai could make it onto ones list, let alone be a desirable car. Personally I would rather slash my wrists and bleed to death.
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While the badge comment is more than fair... I suppose they could become Ford and not build a global RWD at all... That is far more original!
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Whats global about it, they use it for one sedan and a coupe?

No different from Mustang being available in coupe and convertible.
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The old saying "A fool and their money are soon parted" comes to mind, because that's exactly what Hyundai buyers are - fools. Steal design cues from various other marques, throw in some fancy gimmicks and you will reel them in. Too bad the core product is typical cheap and nasty disposable Korean crap.
With so much choice these days I cannot fathom how a Hyundai could make it onto ones list, let alone be a desirable car. Personally I would rather slash my wrists and bleed to death.
This^^^

The reason these cars have never come to Australia is we know about how cheap and nasty Hyundai have been, and although they might have improved now to be able to be a mainstream brand, they will never have the reputation/class of a genuine luxury vehicle. I'd bet if someone pulled up at a snobby country club in one of these the Lexus, Audi, BMW and Merc owners would laugh the owner out of the place. And Hyundais Australian execs know this, and have routinely said they cannot justify the sale price of these cars previously for what is essentially a Hyundai. They considered the Sante Fe as borderline too costly for one.

They might get the coupe in cheap enough but I doubt we will ever see the sedan.
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Very ironic. Then again, the price point will be the biggest swayer if it makes it all the way here.
you mean a country export their own cars??? That sounds nuts.
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The old saying "A fool and their money are soon parted" comes to mind, because that's exactly what Hyundai buyers are - fools. Steal design cues from various other marques, throw in some fancy gimmicks and you will reel them in. Too bad the core product is typical cheap and nasty disposable Korean crap.
With so much choice these days I cannot fathom how a Hyundai could make it onto ones list, let alone be a desirable car. Personally I would rather slash my wrists and bleed to death.
I bet if the exact same car had a Holden badge on it your views would be different......
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Australians have changed their brand buying habits. Its not the 70s, 80s, 90s anymore.

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The reason these cars have never come to Australia is we know about how cheap and nasty Hyundai have been, and although they might have improved now to be able to be a mainstream brand, they will never have the reputation/class of a genuine luxury vehicle. I'd bet if someone pulled up at a snobby country club in one of these the Lexus, Audi, BMW and Merc owners would laugh the owner out of the place. And Hyundais Australian execs know this, and have routinely said they cannot justify the sale price of these cars previously for what is essentially a Hyundai. They considered the Sante Fe as borderline too costly for one.

They might get the coupe in cheap enough but I doubt we will ever see the sedan.
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Yeah........ for the worse.
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In the luxury class, no way. Badge snobbery still reigns supreme. No one who buys a BM or Merc would look twice at a Hyundai.
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What total rubbish..... spoke to a person I knew who is very well off and they went from a merc to a Hyundai. When I asked why she just told me she liked the way it drove and was value for money...
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The old saying "A fool and their money are soon parted" comes to mind, because that's exactly what Hyundai buyers are - fools. Steal design cues from various other marques, throw in some fancy gimmicks and you will reel them in. Too bad the core product is typical cheap and nasty disposable Korean crap.
With so much choice these days I cannot fathom how a Hyundai could make it onto ones list, let alone be a desirable car. Personally I would rather slash my wrists and bleed to death.
Bit dramatic don't you think?

Looking at how well they are doing there must be a ton of fools on this planet.
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Badge snobbery and elitism is still existent. But only to those who can afford it. These days it's not that many, hence the reason why people are giving Hyundai a chance. It depends on if you give 2 F's about what Joe blogs thinks of your ride or not, or you just want value for money.
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Hyundai i30 and i40 are great value for money, equipment level, ..capped price servicing ($189), 5 year unlimited km warranty, 5 year roadside assist, free map upgrade for 3 years etc etc.
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Another ugly car from Hyundai.
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I'm surprised Hyundai hasn't followed Toyota and Mazda's lead and created a new brand for their luxury offerings, rather than trying to reposition their existing brand. Hyundai to me means cheap and cheerful.
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I'm surprised Hyundai hasn't followed Toyota and Mazda's lead and created a new brand for their luxury offerings, rather than trying to reposition their existing brand. Hyundai to me means cheap and cheerful.
They certainly do have their own Luxury brand, called 'Equus'. In some markets they are co-branded, ie 'Hyundai Equus' but in Korea they are branded as just Equus then the model after. Kia had, up until recently their own luxury brand called Opirus. Again, braded as Opirus in Korea followed by the model or 'Kia Opirus' in other markets.



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Bentley just called, they want their badges back. Do they think people are stupid enough to be confused by the badges enough to thinks it's a Bentley or something?

Looks too much like a 5 series with a SsangYong Stavic grille.
They will probably need to make a few more phone calls











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HA HA, love the last one!!!
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What total rubbish..... spoke to a person I knew who is very well off and they went from a merc to a Hyundai. When I asked why she just told me she liked the way it drove and was value for money...
Liked the way it drove. A Hyundai. That's a laugh. How old was the Merc, 30 years old.

Obviously completely has no clue about cars. Probably doesn't want to admit there cash flow is no longer what it used to be and couldn't afford a new Merc.
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Liked the way it drove. A Hyundai. That's a laugh. How old was the Merc, 30 years old.

Obviously completely has no clue about cars. Probably doesn't want to admit there cash flow is no longer what it used to be and couldn't afford a new Merc.
I don't think it's my comments that people are laughing at in this thread...

In case it wasn't 'obvious'.....
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The Genesis was supposed to be sold in Australia with the availability of a V8. That was over a year ago. Perhaps this model will. It might fill a void in the wake of the decline of our industry, but looking at this thread, there will be a few who will refuse to give it a second thought because it's a Hyundai.
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Liked the way it drove. A Hyundai. That's a laugh. How old was the Merc, 30 years old.

Obviously completely has no clue about cars. Probably doesn't want to admit there cash flow is no longer what it used to be and couldn't afford a new Merc.
You do realise how much of a one eyed clown you come across as don't you?

Give it a rest for 5 minutes would you.
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Liked the way it drove. A Hyundai. That's a laugh. How old was the Merc, 30 years old.

Obviously completely has no clue about cars. Probably doesn't want to admit there cash flow is no longer what it used to be and couldn't afford a new Merc.

Is it really that hard to understand that someone may actually like the way something drives over something else? So he has no clue about cars because is own personal preferential about one car over another?

You're usually an intelligent poster, but that post looks like the result of a brain fart.
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Hyundais have always been known as poor in terms of steering feel and handling. Although they have improved a bit lately they still cannot compare to a proper drivers car like a Merc or even most Fords which are well renowned for excellent steering and ride/handling. No one eyedness about this, its fact. Read any car review and then go out and drive a Hyundai and compare it to an equivalent model and see. Even a retarded monkey could tell the difference. The issue is most people are too blinded by RRP.
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