When for Everest ??!!

[grey_esp]

looking at this photo the spring hanger is much further up the chassis rail on the ranger

[Itsme]

There was talk of the new SUV Everest model using rear coil springs.
I don't see the need for a live axle leaf spring set up in these.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257BE20024130A

http://www.caradvice.com.au/246545/f...t-from-ranger/

[XR Martin]

MUX

[wranger]

Everest looks a fair bit bigger than the MU X from this angle.

[69XWGT]

Everest is based on the Ranger isn't.

Bloody **** poor effort in getting it to the market considering how long the Ranger has been out.

MUX is one dog ugly car and drives like a DMax which is fairly ordinary compared to a Ranger

[XR Martin]

So you are whinging about a vehicle taking so long to get to market, but also whinging about one that is a POS because it was rushed to market?

Its probably taking so long because they want it to be right, but also held it off to coincide with the Ranger update. Possibly also waiting for new drivetrains, Ecoboost 2.7 perhaps?

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by 69XWGT

Everest is based on the Ranger isn't.

Bloody **** poor effort in getting it to the market considering how long the Ranger has been out.

MUX is one dog ugly car and drives like a DMax which is fairly ordinary compared to a Ranger

Everest project was begun after Ranger was completed, not during it as most people think.
That was done because there is already an Asian Everest in play and its product cycle is different to the Ranger..

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by wranger

Everest looks a fair bit bigger than the MU X from this angle.

image

That's a dead ringer for a 200 series Cruiser I reckon.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by b2tf

That's a dead ringer for a 200 series Cruiser I reckon.

Fair point, as the Ranger is pretty big.

if it is that size perhaps it will going against Patrol & Cruiser. it could be a better market to play in.
Cruiser especially is way over priced and Patrol only offers a 5.7 V8

[wranger]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

Fair point, as the Ranger is pretty big.

if it is that size perhaps it will going against Patrol & Cruiser. it could be a better market to play in.
Cruiser especially is way over priced and Patrol only offers a 5.7 V8

Wouldn't be surprised, the LC200 rides and handles like an absolute boat and the Patrol is ridiculously fast but drinks 25L/100km around town.

They could get 180kw/600NM out of the 3.2 without any trouble and that would easily give Nissan and Toyota a run for their money.

[grey_esp]

Originally Posted by b2tf

That's a dead ringer for a 200 series Cruiser I reckon.

not sure about a 200 but the latest kluger has the same front end.

[b2tf]

[simon varley]

in the interest of fairness - I got sent this picture of the dude photographing the red car in Sweden.

[LyleXR8]

have everests in Fiji, saw one a month ago, front half was a PK setup so how come we never got it or a PX Everest?

[The Stylist]

It seems what was shown as a concept will actually mirror the production version. Here are the patent CGI's: http://auto.sohu.com/20140312/n396466308.shtml

[CyberWasp]

So I am not going crazy, I thought it had more than a striking resemblance to the Kluger from the front as well. The Kluger is just a bit narrower in grille height.
They could have done a lot better with the styling of the front.

[Vesper Martini]

Well the Grill looks like a copy of the current Kluger but that's about all I see

To note 2014 will see a new Kluger or Highlander as its known everywhere other than Australia. Much like Pathfinder they are starting to look more like People movers.

[spyman03]

hey,

they are testing the new trick auto with the control dial in the consul

testing the slip.

spyman

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by spyman03

hey,

they are testing the new trick auto with the control dial in the consul

testing the slip.

spyman

Hey spyman do you have any knowledge on what size tank (diesel) might be under this everest ?.

[XR Martin]

Seeing as the spare tyre is underneath, I suspect it will only have an 80L tank.
But it would be nice if it had 150L like the Prado.

[spyman03]

Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

Hey spyman do you have any knowledge on what size tank (diesel) might be under this everest ?.

hey,

think its around the 80lt mark note much room under there these days with the whatts linkage and the control blade set up they have been running the ranger tanks cobbled up to the Tessa rear so carn't lead you down the wrong path,

but its going head to head with top spec suv's

Ill post a pic of the rear later

spyman

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by spyman03

hey,

think its around the 80lt mark note much room under there these days with the whatts linkage and the control blade set up they have been running the ranger tanks cobbled up to the Tessa rear so carn't lead you down the wrong path,

but its going head to head with top spec suv's

Ill post a pic of the rear later

spyman

Well that's already one nail in the coffin for me then, if they put a piddly little tank under it and expect to compete with the like's of the best seller prado then don't expect to convince me over Ford.
The Prado is already a great vehicle and as such Ford need to look at it and tackle it head on, why on earth does it sell so damn many, I'm sure Ford have their blinker's on all the time.

[simon varley]

don't forget - it's based heavily off the Ranger. There are some changes most of which have already been noted, but don't expect that suddenly someone has found space to double the fuel tank size

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

Well that's already one nail in the coffin for me then, if they put a piddly little tank under it and expect to compete with the like's of the best seller prado then don't expect to convince me over Ford.
The Prado is already a great vehicle and as such Ford need to look at it and tackle it head on, why on earth does it sell so damn many, I'm sure Ford have their blinker's on all the time.

Prados not that outstanding unless you're off road 24/7, they also cost a shitton of money which considering what you get is a bit of a rip. The main reason they sell heaps is to the mine fleets and hire/plant companies that hire to the miners, there are so damn many of them on the roads here in Boganville dressed up in mine-spec attire its ridiculous, I call it the 'Hilux Effect'

[spyman03]

Originally Posted by simon varley

don't forget - it's based heavily off the Ranger. There are some changes most of which have already been noted, but don't expect that suddenly someone has found space to double the fuel tank size

hey,

don't get to tied up in the body thing here that mule has only been put together to do all the under body work and to get the overall size for testing

BTW you and me the tanks are in the boot of them atm

spyman

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Prados not that outstanding unless you're off road 24/7, they also cost a shitton of money which considering what you get is a bit of a rip. The main reason they sell heaps is to the mine fleets and hire/plant companies that hire to the miners, there are so damn many of them on the roads here in Boganville dressed up in mine-spec attire its ridiculous, I call it the 'Hilux Effect'

Prado is an outstanding vehicle to me, I have been and driving a few and they are no Falcon but they are not a family sedan either, but comparing them to other's in the segment they are outstanding and very well optioned, there's more value in a GXL Prado then there is in a Territory Titanium in my eyes anyway, for people that are after different thing's then fair enough but for people that are after a fair dinkum 4x4 and family vehicle then you can't go past the Prado as an option and Ford need to look on this with the Everest.

There might be only Prado's in the mine spec in your neck of the wood's but where I am I see family driven Prado's every where.

Anyway the Prado has done well since day one just as the Hilux has, so Ford should look on why they have and follow suit, but then again Ford like too play catch up don't they, Hilux has done well for how long now , actually I should say Toyota has done well for how long now in the 4x4/SUV segment and how long has it taken Ford to open their eyes to this market, hell the current Ranger is the only vehicle that Ford has made that can at least compete in the 4x4 market, what have they been doing for so long!!.

[spyman03]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Prados not that outstanding unless you're off road 24/7, I call it the 'Hilux Effect'

hey,

I think the hilux has been hit by the exchange rate syndrome the neg reports about the auto models atm scare me for such a first rate 4x4

Ford are going big time on a mining pack atm



spyman

[simon varley]

the standard fuel tank in the Prado is only 87L so not much bigger than the Ranger. I realise it's got an auxiliary tank too. Anyone know how that's mounted?

looking at the specs on Toyota's web site I can confidently say that on paper at least the Everest will **** all over the Prado. Will it beat it in real life? I'm biased but I reckon that apart from the range, it stands a good chance.

[XR Martin]

Aux tank on the Prado is behind the bumper.

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by simon varley

the standard fuel tank in the Prado is only 87L so not much bigger than the Ranger. I realise it's got an auxiliary tank too. Anyone know how that's mounted?

looking at the specs on Toyota's web site I can confidently say that on paper at least the Everest will **** all over the Prado. Will it beat it in real life? I'm biased but I reckon that apart from the range, it stands a good chance.

The Prado has a 150L fuel tank, you do not need to fill both tank's separately they are connected so the full range is 150 litres.

I don't know how you can say confidently that the Everest will **** all over the Prado when details on the Everest aren't even out.

Toyota has established a relationship with private buyers in this country with the likes of Hilux and Prado there is no denying that, I am not talking about fleet/company vehicles here I am talking about the private segment and it is going to be a long time for Ford to build the relationship that Toyota has as they sat on their hands for to damn long.