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Old 05-02-2014, 08:35 PM   #31
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That's not limited to cars, seen the new housing estates these days, all a clone of each other...
Don't remind me!
And clothes, blenders and movies etc, etc, etc. lowest common denominator.

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Old 05-02-2014, 08:52 PM   #32
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It looks far better than the outgoing one. Hopefully the GT will look better and perhaps another Tuned by STi version. Certainly nowhere near ugly.
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Old 05-02-2014, 09:03 PM   #33
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Same with every generation of car though...1930's cars all looked similar...40'2 50' etc..

We have seen what happens when a design escapes the current flavour, fords Edge design moment didn't appeal to everyone out there...BMW's Bangle-led "flame surfacing"...


To sell volume, it needs to be bland...niche models are where you see the creativity...
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:07 AM   #34
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I just sold my 07 Manual Liberty. It was such a sexy classy looking car and had the silhouette of a BMW. The ride and handling was absolutely superb.

The latest Liberty's no doubt would drive beautifully but my goodness they are ugly. They remind me of Noddy's car. It's not slimline anymore and it's obvious they are trying to be the direct opponent to the Nissan Maxima.

The new Mazda 6 series has now stepped into the Liberty's spot as the poor mans BMW.
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:25 AM   #35
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There must be a limit to the number of new ideas car designers can come up with.
They've all been done before.
I think they've simply run out of them......

Four wheels. Four doors. Standardised legal regulations regarding heights of headlights, tail lights, bumpers etc. Then on top of all this the vehicle has to pass safety crash tests...and it has to look good and appeal to millions of buyers.

There's only so many ways you can bend a sheet of metal.
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Old 06-02-2014, 07:22 AM   #36
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I regard AWD as an over-rated feature. Hear me out.

1. You pay a fuel economy penalty for it daily. If you examine models offered in FWD and AWD, the AWD chews about 1.0L/100km extra.

2. If you drive urban and the road isnt wet then what advantage do you get? So what if your cornering feels a bit nicer?! I can corner too. Either way, we are both bound by the speed limits.

3. It adds expense to the price of the car. AWD models are dearer than FWD.

Seriously, for A-to-B dodderers around town (like most of us are) - waste of time.
If all you do is dodder around town then maybe it is. I would say a high percentage of Subaru owners aren't like that.

My AWD Subaru gets me through sand, mud, riverbeds, ice and snow when it's not doddering about town, a 2wd wouldn't cut the mustard.
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http://jalopnik.com/5938235/photosho...look-the-same/

http://cnettv.cnet.com/reasons-why-c...-50134110.html

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Old 06-02-2014, 10:06 AM   #38
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There's some new pics floating around now without the white studio background that are significantly easier on the eye compared to what we saw in the 1st series of pics. A guy over at Australian Liberty Forums photoshopped an STi grill in and took out the orange from the headlights as that is a U.S model thing and it actually looks ok.

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Old 06-02-2014, 01:44 PM   #39
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I regard AWD as an over-rated feature. Hear me out.

1. You pay a fuel economy penalty for it daily. If you examine models offered in FWD and AWD, the AWD chews about 1.0L/100km extra.

2. If you drive urban and the road isnt wet then what advantage do you get? So what if your cornering feels a bit nicer?! I can corner too. Either way, we are both bound by the speed limits.

3. It adds expense to the price of the car. AWD models are dearer than FWD.

Seriously, for A-to-B dodderers around town (like most of us are) - waste of time.
You're absolutely correct. You are paying for extra safety essentiallly. If it only saves you once a year, it's a good year. It's like buying decent tyres, sure you don't need the extra grip all the time but maybe sometimes you might.

Having driven an AWD car for 14 years prior to my FG, in the wet I felt much safer in my AWD car than the FG.
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