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06-02-2014, 05:17 PM | #31 | |||
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06-02-2014, 05:19 PM | #32 | |||
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Each to there own,that is my opinion and I don't expect everyone to agree with it. |
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06-02-2014, 05:19 PM | #33 | |||
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And just a quick reminder on the story behind Sinead announced some months ago, and a welcome to Cheryl :
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06-02-2014, 05:22 PM | #34 | ||
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I hope so !!! there is a Ford FB page, hints at 500 special edition model for April??? Have you heard about this ??
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06-02-2014, 05:28 PM | #35 | |||
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That's not to say I agree nor disagree with what you're trying to get across.
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06-02-2014, 05:28 PM | #36 | ||
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No they don't. They are already waving the white flag. I think we will be lucky if the FH lasts any more than 6 months.
If anyone is planning to wait till 2016 to buy one of the last Falcons you are going to miss the boat. All I have got out of them is that they are committed to launch the new Falcon, but beyond that will entirely be up to demand, and with demand dropping by the month, it's just a matter of time after it's release that they will pull the pin, otherwise the losses will just be too extreme. October 2016 is just a fantasy. |
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06-02-2014, 05:30 PM | #37 | ||
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As has been 'admitted' there are no guarantees going forward.
It seems we are being softened up for an early exit. To sales staff, best of luck with the new Falcon, outside of the rusted on, who's going to throw their money away on an ancient platform......NOT including the Terri which IS relevant.
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06-02-2014, 05:38 PM | #38 | ||
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Got to say I don't understand where the surprise is coming from. They said from the start they would continue to right size the business to demand.
And with a new model out soon, I think they expected these sorts of figures... |
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06-02-2014, 05:40 PM | #39 | |||
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06-02-2014, 05:44 PM | #40 | |||
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06-02-2014, 05:46 PM | #41 | ||
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Falcon platform dates back to BA doesn't it? Even further back possible to AU?
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06-02-2014, 05:53 PM | #42 | |||
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Or do you mean they will de-content it before it goes into production? |
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06-02-2014, 05:56 PM | #43 | ||
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There is nothing inherently wrong with having an automotive platform that is 5, 10 or even 20 years old, as long as it can grow, evolve and meet the needs of the company making the car, then fine. Attempting to point score over the perceived age of a “platform” is, well, pointless.
In that regard I’d point all of you to the fact that the Falcon is a platform in itself, is in a constant state of evolution, flexible enough to support I6, V8 and I4 engines and an AWD SUV. I’d say that is pretty bloody extraordinary actually.
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06-02-2014, 06:16 PM | #44 | ||
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I dont think they are to concerned about recovering costs now guys, that doesnt mean they will pi$$ it into the wind but whether they lose 10-20M (whatever) here or there matters little now. The costs saved by closing manufacturing will make up for it in the long run and Ford globally is making enough for it to just be a blip on the bottom line for AP.
The FH will come, they are just doing what they have to now..no point having blokes twiddling their thumbs.
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06-02-2014, 06:19 PM | #45 | ||
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surely they can adjust pricing down on current models to make them more competitive with the newer releases of other makes ? kinda of what they are doing with the FPV's, it might reignite some interest
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06-02-2014, 06:47 PM | #46 | ||
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Large BMWs Mercs Jags and Audis as prestige cars will probably survive as a format but the locals were history quite a while ago....the sales figures tell the story. It's now a matter of spot the non SUV.
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06-02-2014, 07:18 PM | #47 | ||
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Fpvs yes.
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06-02-2014, 07:25 PM | #48 | |||
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Personally I didn't think she was doing a good job years ago. I don't blame her exclusively as the culture at Ford Australia is rotten and has been for years. Which has helped contribute to the situation they have put their workers in now. Last edited by DanielXR8; 06-02-2014 at 07:31 PM. |
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06-02-2014, 07:28 PM | #49 | ||
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On the News tonight Ford starting to cut jobs from June this year.
Workers fear Ford might stop making cars in Australia sooner than its late-2016 deadline, with the company winding back production amid a sales downturn. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/...s-announcement |
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06-02-2014, 07:34 PM | #50 | |||
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I wouldn't want to work as a senior exec for Ford Oz with Detroit demonstrating a complete lack of interest in the struggling arm here.
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06-02-2014, 07:36 PM | #51 | |||
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Toyota & Holden would ****** themselves lol.
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06-02-2014, 07:37 PM | #52 | ||
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they're not far off that already if you get the bargain stick out
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06-02-2014, 07:39 PM | #53 | |||
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"Our intent is to produce through October 2016 and we will constantly monitor our operations and if there are any major disruptions we would look and have to perhaps re-evaluate that plan." http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/...s-announcement |
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06-02-2014, 07:52 PM | #54 | |||
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Ex Ford Australia boss Jac Nasser and FPV boss David Flint, both had a much better understanding of what community relations and marketing was about - and that wasn't exclusively their job like Sineads. Anyway shes left and they've got a yank now to do the dirty work of seeing Fords Falcon out to pasture. A tough job for anyone. |
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06-02-2014, 07:54 PM | #55 | ||
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Remember that 90/day with one or two down days a month is only bout 1700 or 1800 a month.....
This is gonna get ugly. |
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06-02-2014, 08:06 PM | #56 | ||
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900 of both Falcon and Territory each is about all you could expect at this stage
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06-02-2014, 08:33 PM | #57 | ||
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Considering some money came from state and fed governments plus Ford US ensuring production stayed until 2016 that probably isn't a major heartache.
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06-02-2014, 09:34 PM | #58 | |||
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I'll be the first to admit, my blood runs blue, and at times, I've found it hard to stay true to my roots, and put a positive face forward for the world to see. THANK YOU SINEAD!!!! |
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06-02-2014, 09:36 PM | #59 | ||
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It doesn't ensure production stays until 2016 though, it was just a date they could no longer build past (October 2016).
They can pull the pin any time after the FH release. |
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06-02-2014, 09:54 PM | #60 | ||
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FG is/was 80% or something all new...only a few bits were carried over.
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