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The press release hints at it, but doesnt say that's what WILL happen, but i bet it won't be allowed to happen in that form, they certainly wont/cant have common directors involved in both entities.
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We havent heard or seen the last of that debarcle. As a Director If you Bankrupt your company you potentially face jail if you deliberatly trade while insolvent: i.e: not being able to meet employee entitlements or pay the tax dept, these are BIG NO NO's and on this kind of scale will now under the new laws normally get you time inside! I can't see the directors of Ventura wanting to do time by shirking their responsibilities..
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And incentives for local companies,hell I would even go so far as to outlaw local companies manufacturing offshore,was good for our fathers and grandfathers. |
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i'm sorry 4vman but you don't have a clue about what you are talking about. i was a union site deligate for a food manufacturig plant for 7 years and i can tell you you comments are both incorrect and insulting. australian workers are not spineless idiots that do what ever the union tells them, they are the union. i worked for an australian company that treated its staff with respect, gave us a safe and healthy workplace and and produced product that was world class which we and the owner were very proud of. for 15 years there was not one instance of industrial action. any problems were solved with a friendly chat between those involved and a resolution was found for the company or the worker. we were paid well, the company earned a fortune and everyone was very happy.
that company was bought by an american multi national foodstuffs producer and within 6 months two thirds of the workers and managers had been wrongfully sacked and replaced with non australian labour hire - islanders, asians and anyone else who would work for less than the minimum wage. productivity went down, accidents [some very serious] became common place and the quality of our product went out the window along with some of our best customers. the first to be sacked were the managers[12], then the union delegates[6] and last of all the union members [230+] and we could do stuff all about it because of the legislation put in place by the howard government. within 2 and a half years the factory was closed and the scabs were locked out without their entitlements. why. because this american company never intended to stay in the market they just wanted to learn how to make our product and get their hands on the equipment they needed.that equipment now resides in mexico. i truly wish i could name names but i can't because i and a number of my workmates are currently trying to get some of our entitlements back through the courts [with the help of OUR union]. if you want to do a bit of union bashing go and join the young liberals. but be carefull, the way things are going you or someone in your family may need to join a union just to protect what is rightfully yours. fair pay, fair condition and fair treatment. cheers. |
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As a ex Coghlan Russell employee this is just a little bit of history repeating. With a totally different twist. Venture has the money to pay workers entitlements, as did the Director of Coghlan Russell, But he chose to hide it.
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I still do not understand the need for a unions, workers are hard enough to get as it is, if your not happy with your current employer, walk away and find a new one, if enough people walk out, companies will soon realise that they need to do something with regard to how they reward and treat their employees. From a business owners point of view I think its alot harder to find workers today then it is for workers to find jobs, therefore any employer with half a brain will actually reward its employees in a way in which they are happy and content to stay working for them. The manufacturing industry is over in Australia, its had it time and cannot compete with 3rd world manufacturing. If you look at Holden for example 60% of its parts are manufactured offshore, this allows them to produce cars at a cheaper cost, while manufacturers here that supply Ford struggle to supply parts at prices that match overseas suppliers to keep the business. Its funny how Ford seems to be the most affected by suppliers falling over all the time in Aus, Fords non - global business strategy will kill it eventually... Not having a decent export program is a joke, we have world class cars that are killed by lack of LHD development, it makes little sense to me why the Falcon and Territory couldnt be exported across the world, just like the Camry and Commdore are.
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Also yes, the best way to send a message to a bad employer is leave and find another job...
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if venture is opening up elsewere and and shafting there workers good on the unions for sticking up for them, this country owes unions a lot imo, and spiraling wages is not the only problem its also spiraling taxes which we have in abundance, and the reason for no skilled labour should be blamed on the current government its their policies and lack of foresight that have caused these problems, but its always easier to blame unions and the little people.
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The one thing that keeps me guessing in the never ending war with wages, costs, etc; is that if wages don't rise to cover the cost of living, then how do businesses expect people to buy the goods and services they offer? This is aplicable to businesses of any size, not just the small ones. The only winners I see out of all this are the big boys. Something has to give, and I don't think it is very far away. Regarding the working week, I don't think you'll find too many people work that as a given any more. They have no choice but to work extra hours to keep the money coming in. I'll admit that I am an exception to this, but we do have times where we will do 12-14 hours days for at least 6 days straight. I'd rather spend the least amount of time at work as possible, life's too short to work yourself into an early grave! Ed |
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Wake me up if this turns into an anti-union thread..... I could do with a good vent.
Unfortunately with the dollar being so strong our manufacturers & exporters are struggling (spare a thought for NZ manufacturers who are right up the creek atm). Importers are having a field day which makes it tough all round. Where are the days of 48c & 5% when you need them? |
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Sure the cost of living goes up, but then the more people are paid the more it goes up to cover the costs (other factors also contribute to this) of these wage increases. Unions I am sorry are out of touch with industry and stir more trouble for employees than they do good. Adding tariffs will do nothing to curb this issue, we will be provided with further shoddy workmanship on products (god can you imagine the falcon being produced with mass protection tarrifs *shudder*). Honestly the way things are going I would rather buy the falcon if it was made overseas, it can't be any worse than here. It is time to wakeup and rid of the century old industry outlook and realise we are deep in globalisation, we either try and compete or just sit back and do nothing. If we keep up with the current philosophy sure people will get their pay rise but how long will they have a job?? |
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