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19-03-2016, 09:55 PM | #31 | ||
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Didn't they run the tyres at a lower pressure due to that silly polariser? lol
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20-03-2016, 08:14 AM | #32 | |||
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Holden were already at the end of their tether with Brock and Peri-integration (a company Brock started with his Brainwashing "healing" friend) Last nail in the coffin was releasing that car.
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20-03-2016, 05:08 PM | #33 | |||
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Just wish those self-certified journo hacks had bothered to ask the knowledgeable people (not the trolls) who have posted in this thread, and those who were around in the day for the facts, not the generated rubbish that the Director was THE only cause. |
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20-03-2016, 05:20 PM | #34 | |||
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The real issue was he was out of control and Holden try as they did couldn’t reel him back in. They were terrified about numerous issues with cars that were being sold under their brand that didn’t meet ADR’s and that they may ultimately be held responsible if the brown stuff hit the fan. Apart from the IRS there were the build what the customer wants engines that didn’t meet emissions and in the end Holden used the polariser to deflect from the real issues as a means to not draw attention to the vehicles that had already been sold. |
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20-03-2016, 09:28 PM | #35 | |||
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21-03-2016, 08:52 AM | #36 | ||
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Its ironic the directors badge was born to disown Holden's when brock and the company had different paths to follow, now they want to cash in on a badge that was really brocks spat.
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21-03-2016, 05:14 PM | #37 | ||
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Hello,
I remember things a little differently. Brock was " re-manufacturing " Cars, and as such was a large Car maker in effect. Holden saw how big a market he had and wanted it. Walkinshaw came on board, and they needed an excuse to get Brock out. Energy polariser was it. He also did Lada's and Falcon's. |
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21-03-2016, 07:31 PM | #38 | ||
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IF, a big IF, I bought one it would be for the extra goodies added to the Calais, not the 'Brock' factor or the 'Director' name. Really, it is a resurrection of the Calais Redline that was available later in the VE series.
The older of us who were around during the polariser debacle will remember why it all happened, as others have written, it was not just one instance which caused the split. For those on the forum who still had pushbikes at the time, try to get a copy of "The Rise and Fall of Peter Brock" by Bill Tuckey for a very informative history read. |
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21-03-2016, 08:23 PM | #39 | |||||
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But most Motoring Journalists and Dealerships of the time have a more complicated story. To Quote David Morley: Quote:
Brock and Holden bust up Bill Tuckey. Quote:
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21-03-2016, 09:06 PM | #41 | ||
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Could he have been any more of a brain washed sucker with the whole Polariser thing?
Too bad I didn't know him back in the day, I could have sold him some rocks that keep tigers away. |
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22-03-2016, 11:00 PM | #42 | ||
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Wheels article - link here
Interesting: "Holden applied with IP Australia to register the Director name in 2014 and it was accepted in January this year." . |
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23-03-2016, 12:28 PM | #43 | ||||
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Unfortunately with Brock gone, we only get one side of the story.
However, this 2001 article on the Director does quote Brock on the breakdown of his relationship with Holden: Quote:
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23-03-2016, 01:10 PM | #44 | |||
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I like it. The ultimate Calais. |
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23-03-2016, 02:05 PM | #45 | ||
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Not a fan of the VF in general but that one looks good.
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23-03-2016, 04:27 PM | #46 | |||
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23-03-2016, 05:50 PM | #47 | ||
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Yeah but what if Brock added the polarizer to give holdens the ***** and so he could get out of contract, Bev probably said add that and see what they will do , it sounds like a chicks idea for a car.
Brock and holdens were falling out a few years before the directos badge, There is a guy making custom Directors holdens already. |
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23-03-2016, 06:22 PM | #48 | ||
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Hard to believe a man was driven to madness over some stupid magnets.
What kind of engineering or science degree did he hold which made him think he could invent some revolutionary magnet power? |
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23-03-2016, 07:28 PM | #49 | ||
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23-03-2016, 08:25 PM | #50 | ||
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23-03-2016, 08:27 PM | #51 | ||
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23-03-2016, 08:37 PM | #52 | ||
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polarization is actually science on the molecular level.
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/clas...1/Polarization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge-transfer_complex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization_(waves) |
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24-03-2016, 08:47 AM | #53 | ||
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Bev was/is a science teacher and Dowker a chiropractor which was about the limits of any science type degrees.
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24-03-2016, 12:15 PM | #54 | ||
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The og directors, were a nice bit of kit. This reincarnation will not hold a candle to it. Blasphemy.
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24-03-2016, 03:02 PM | #55 | ||
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1FK.5KE - hahahah...
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