Nsw - Victorian border

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by Ben73

If you're an essential worker you may get away with it. You need a car if you have to work.

Interesting how you can't drive around alone in your car which is a very isolated place, yet you can jam 30 kids into a classroom for 6 hours then let them all go home to 30 separate families and the government thinks that's safe.

Good luck trying that excuse.

[chevypower]

I’m no expert, but I don’t see the harm in driving because you’re in a contained environment. I think that fine was a bit excessive (like most of Victoria’s fines), though I would hate for the state’s revenue to decrease when speeding fines are obviously going to decrease. That being said, I also think if it’s not out of necessity, it is best to stay home. But people do have to get out and get fresh air and exercise too.

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by chevypower

I’m no expert, but I don’t see the harm in driving because you’re in a contained environment. I think that fine was a bit excessive (like most of Victoria’s fines), though I would hate for the state’s revenue to decrease when speeding fines are obviously going to decrease. That being said, I also think if it’s not out of necessity, it is best to stay home. But people do have to get out and get fresh air and exercise too.

Refueling
Stopping for toilet breaks
Stopping to eat

All put individuals and others at risk of transmission.
Is it that hard to not go for a drive?

[minheim]

Originally Posted by FTE217

Good call mate, mexico is too unpredictable at the best of times, worse under this current situation, police state and all, rogue premier make for border signage should read enter at own risk

At least the Vic government didn't let the Ruby Princess disembark its payload of virus. What a fool the NSW health minister looks with his responses to date and what a shambles they have created. Andrews is ahead of most of our pollies in dealing with the issue. If you want to see what a police state looks like read up on the Philippines where they will shot people flouting the rules.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Simply put, no.. you are not allowed to according to VIC stage 3 restrictions. Driving a car to NSW because you just purchased it would fall foul of the 'essential travel only' legislation.

If you want to take a punt and risk a hefty fine, then that's up to you.

Heck, VIC Police have fined L platers for driving with a parent during stage 3 restrictions. Would've thought that would be fine under 'educational purposes' rule, which you are allowed to travel for.

Fake news, if you have valid reason to be on the road then border crossing is ok.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by Officemanager

Fake news, if you have valid reason to be on the road then border crossing is ok.

Problem is, everyone on here has differing opinion as to what qualifies as 'valid reason'.

I'm not convinced that buying a new (to you) car would be considered a valid reason. Hence the advice on here to not take the risk.

However, if the individual wants to take that punt, that's up to them. And chances are, it would be unlikely that they would even be pulled over. But if they were....the determination of a 'valid reason' would be up to the discretion of the police officer pulling you over.

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by minheim

At least the Vic government didn't let the Ruby Princess disembark its payload of virus. What a fool the NSW health minister looks with his responses to date and what a shambles they have created. Andrews is ahead of most of our pollies in dealing with the issue. If you want to see what a police state looks like read up on the Philippines where they will shot people flouting the rules.

yep from one extreme to another agreed.
Poor L platers.
Hazzard should be sacked not that will bring back those passed and satisfy those poor families effected.

[Citroënbender]

I’d be sure there are plenty on here with multiple “jobs” - not out of cussedness but through necessity or just how things have developed. If buying a car to part out or resell is one established income stream, then fetching it is part of the job...

I’ve a formal letter from a client requesting me to thoroughly inspect a particular car 250km away and acknowledging this is part of an overall paid engagement - find a car, register it and have ready for their post quarantine life in Australia. Normally I wouldn’t bother with this level of paperwork but don’t fancy a 500+km round trip with added hassles.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

Problem is, everyone on here has differing opinion as to what qualifies as 'valid reason'.

I'm not convinced that buying a new (to you) car would be considered a valid reason. Hence the advice on here to not take the risk.

However, if the individual wants to take that punt, that's up to them. And chances are, it would be unlikely that they would even be pulled over. But if they were....the determination of a 'valid reason' would be up to the discretion of the police officer pulling you over.

If the vehicle is required for essential purpose and you follow the governments guidelines then it will be fine, I don't see any restrictions on travel distance at all in the guidelines put out by the NSW or Victorian governments.
Last weekend I traveled 200k's to get a part for my vehicle to repair which was essential, I saved many $$$ in doing so and did not come in close contact with seller. I could have traveled less distance and pay more exorbitant price, did I break any laws?

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by xxx000

Refueling
Stopping for toilet breaks
Stopping to eat

All put individuals and others at risk of transmission.
Is it that hard to not go for a drive?

You have to find something to do, and being solitary in a vehicle is fine. I had a solo cross country flight today then went off-roading up the trails. We all gotta do this solitary thing the best we can with some common sense. Sitting on the couch 24/7 just doesn't work for me, nor do I think it's beneficial. You can take precautions at the fuel pump with gloves, sanitizer, soap. So I can't go hiking because I may have contaminated the sole of my shoe, which touched the same piece of dirt as someone else's shoe? lol

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by xxx000

Good luck trying that excuse.

So a car doesn’t come under essential items excuse?

[Citroënbender]

I dislike the term “excuse” as it implies in popular argot, an attempt to recover stature from a position of confirmed guilt.

My journeys on the roads remain justifiable, not “excusable”.

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by chevypower

You have to find something to do, and being solitary in a vehicle is fine. I had a solo cross country flight today then went off-roading up the trails. We all gotta do this solitary thing the best we can with some common sense. Sitting on the couch 24/7 just doesn't work for me, nor do I think it's beneficial. You can take precautions at the fuel pump with gloves, sanitizer, soap. So I can't go hiking because I may have contaminated the sole of my shoe, which touched the same piece of dirt as someone else's shoe? lol

You just don't get it. All those people currently ignoring guidelines will likely claim they use common sense too but really don't.
So many people desperately looking for a loophole or exemption for themselves

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Fact of the matter is that everyone's personal circumstances will be different. For some, it may very well be considered a 'valid reason' to travel to another state to buy a car. For others it won't. Unless we all knew the OP's exact circumstances, it is wrong, IMHO, to say you will either be ok or not.

We can all create a list of hypothetical circumstances that support the 'yes, it's ok' argument, or the 'no, it's not ok' argument.

I was simply trying to point out that, if you don't have a valid reason, you run the risk of a fine.

What the OP (or anyone else considering a similar thing) chooses to do is up to them.

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by xxx000

You just don't get it. All those people currently ignoring guidelines will likely claim they use common sense too but really don't.
So many people desperately looking for a loophole or exemption for themselves

Ok, I’m not getting into this with you. You do your thing and I’ll take care of myself and my family.

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

Fact of the matter is that everyone's personal circumstances will be different. For some, it may very well be considered a 'valid reason' to travel to another state to buy a car. For others it won't. Unless we all knew the OP's exact circumstances, it is wrong, IMHO, to say you will either be ok or not.

We can all create a list of hypothetical circumstances that support the 'yes, it's ok' argument, or the 'no, it's not ok' argument.

I was simply trying to point out that, if you don't have a valid reason, you run the risk of a fine.

What the OP (or anyone else considering a similar thing) chooses to do is up to them.

Hey it’s the internet, we get to enjoy people’s self righteousness.

[roKWiz]

CB wrote....
I’d be sure there are plenty on here with multiple “jobs” - not out of cussedness but through necessity or just how things have developed. If buying a car to part out or resell is one established income stream, then fetching it is part of the job...

They would probably then fine you instead for not having a commercial towing licence, as the NSW police have been targeting privately owned tilt trays, flatbed trucks, and cars towing car trailers with (fitted) winches, claiming if you are transporting cars on a trailer or flatbed truck for profit, you are running a business which requires a commercial towing licence.
The towies have been jumping up and down complaining that they are losing work.

[Citroënbender]

I’d be safe; the trailer I borrow doesn’t have a fitted winch. :p


(But every time I use it, I sure wish it did!)

[boss351290]

Ok, considering I can’t look at the car myself...

Are there any members that’s live near Prestons Victoria.....

That can tell a good Falcon from a bad one.....

Other words have a look for me....please... but someone who knows what there looking at...
Thanks

[roKWiz]

CB, don't incriminate yourself with that tiny text.
Got a fitted winch myself but it pulls stone around.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by boss351290

Ok, considering I can’t look at the car myself...

Are there any members that’s live near Prestons Victoria.....

That can tell a good Falcon from a bad one.....

Other words have a look for me....please... but someone who knows what there looking at...
Thanks

Might help a bit if you could give an indication of the age of the vehicle. Some may be good on newer models whilst others ok on older models.

Bit far from Sale, sorry mate.

I'm sure someone will help you out tho.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Officemanager

Fake news, if you have valid reason to be on the road then border crossing is ok.

not fake news here in Victoria, a L plater did get booked, the fine was $1600, she was 13 k's from home, they pulled it and issued a warning, but it did happen

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

not fake news here in Victoria, a L plater did get booked, the fine was $1600, she was 13 k's from home, they pulled it and issued a warning, but it did happen

Trevor "fake news" Border is open, L plater was booked for not complying to essential reasons to be on roads has nothing to do with the topic of border crossing.


Cheers.

[hayseed]

Just saw on the News Were George Pell was Travelling Melb to Syd via the Hume Highway..

Obviously that's deemed essential...............somehow...

[boss351290]

Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

Might help a bit if you could give an indication of the age of the vehicle. Some may be good on newer models whilst others ok on older models.

Bit far from Sale, sorry mate.

I'm sure someone will help you out tho.

True....

It’s advertised on Carsales, Black FGX G6E Turbo for $31888. Have a look at it on line. The car is at Ralph Da-Silva Holden at Prestons.

If anyone is interested to have a look at it and is somewhat knowledgeable about picking a good one from a bad one.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by boss351290

True....

It’s advertised on Carsales, Black FGX G6E Turbo for $31888. Have a look at it on line. The car is at Ralph Da-Silva Holden at Prestons.

If anyone is interested to have a look at it and is somewhat knowledgeable about picking a good one from a bad one.

NFI, what they Charge, But might be worth It, if you're genuinely interested..

https://www.racv.com.au/on-the-road/...tml?int_cam=mm

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by boss351290

True....

It’s advertised on Carsales, Black FGX G6E Turbo for $31888. Have a look at it on line. The car is at Ralph Da-Silva Holden at Prestons.

If anyone is interested to have a look at it and is somewhat knowledgeable about picking a good one from a bad one.

It'll be thousands more than a private sale. Personally I'd wait patiently for a private sale then bargain away.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I dislike the term “excuse” as it implies in popular argot, an attempt to recover stature from a position of confirmed guilt.

My journeys on the roads remain justifiable, not “excusable”.

I'm all for bars, gyms, beaches, restaurants and any other business that people hang out in to be closed, but harassing people who are minding their own business and are practicing social distancing is out of control.

Since we drive a lot at work there are rumours getting around how police have been pulling over cars with more than one person in them and fining the occupants for not practicing social distancing even if they are essential workers who are at work.
I wonder how many unnecessary social interactions police are having when they pull people over for no reason other than to ask motorists why they think they deserve to be out on the roads.

[ford71V8]

Speaking to a dad from our cricket club, who happens to be a cop, last night.
He told me they (in SA) will be using helicopters and, as of yesterday, started using drones to go searching for gatherings of people.

Been preparing themselves for this Easter period.

[boss351290]

Originally Posted by ford71V8

Speaking to a dad from our cricket club, who happens to be a cop, last night.
He told me they (in SA) will be using helicopters and, as of yesterday, started using drones to go searching for gatherings of people.

Been preparing themselves for this Easter period.

Maybe you should speak to that dad and TELL him to use the helicopter and drones to look for criminals. That would be too hard I think. Might as well just grab the good people. Hell of a lot easier....