14.4 second 1/4 mile with 120 rwkws.?? - Page 2

MrSparkle · 01-04-2005, 06:12 AM

I'd have a 330ci in a flash. Hands up, all you clowns bagging them, who has actually driven one? Was it the manual? Did you get to drive it in varying conditions including a twisty mountain pass? .... Didn't think so...

Now where were we... oh that's right, "all other cars than Ford are crap etc. etc. dribble blah"...

Tornado · 01-04-2005, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MrSparkle

I'd have a 330ci in a flash. Hands up, all you clowns bagging them, who has actually driven one? Was it the manual? Did you get to drive it in varying conditions including a twisty mountain pass? .... Didn't think so...

Now where were we... oh that's right, "all other cars than Ford are crap etc. etc. dribble blah"...

Well I have my hand up My sister owned one for a while and I have driven it many times. I'm not bagging them at all. A 330ci would be nice, but the thread was about a 330 doing a 14.4 sec pass and I didn't think it was anywhere near that fast. Don't know about the current model, but the one in the first post isn't the current model is it...

My sisters husband had the 850ci (V12 engine) and although it could reach high speeds and feel stable on the road, it didn't accelarate as fast as you would expect. (They have both switched to Mercs, SLK320 and S320)

An early 2000 model M3 runs those times and it has a 250+kw 3.2ltr engine, not a 170kw 3.0ltr engine and it costs more then twice as much as a 330, so you would hope it performad better then a 330 especially as the M3 is the performance flagship of the 3 series.

I don't think anyone is saying that anything other then a ford is crap.

If I had the money I would love an AMG E55.

Steffo · 01-04-2005, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tornado

I don't know what the current model M3 does, I am refering to the older M3. The same era as the 330 in the first post.

The current model M3 is the E46. There's no new E90 yet. According to MOTOR.. a current BMW E46 M3.. with the 3.2litre inline-six, 252kW @ 7900rpm and 365Nm @ 5000rpm.. weighs 1495kg... does 0-100km/h in 5.38 sec and the 1/4 in 13.59.

The BMW E46 M3 Convertible, however, with the same engine, but weighs 1720kg.. does 0-100km/h in 5.93 sec and the 1/4 in 14.17.

The E46 BMW 330Ci Coupe, with 3.0litre inline-six, 170kW @ 5900rpm and 300Nm @ 3500rpm, weight is 1490kg.. does 0-100km/h in 6.64 sec and the 1/4 mile in 14.77 sec.

The 330i Sedan, same engine, but weighs 1520kg.. does 0-100km/h in 7.32 sec and the 1/4 mile in 15.29 sec.

Considering that a Falcon XT 6cyl sedan does 7.23 0-100 and 15.28 1/4.. with 12kW more power, 80Nm more torque and 152kg more weight then the 330i.. I'd say thats pretty good.. especially since the 330i is pushing 8.94kg per kW and the Falcon is pushing 9.18kg per kW.

Steffo · 01-04-2005, 10:51 AM

Oh and btw.. I'm looking at "HotSource" in the April 2005 edition.

Tornado · 01-04-2005, 11:17 AM

OK.
So this one is the E46.

I was thinking about this one. An engine pic here.

I can't keep track of the E numbers, so confusing.

Looking back at the first post, it is the current model, not the older one. So I guess the new ones are alot faster then the previous model that I was thinking about.

My bad sorry

Steffo · 01-04-2005, 11:30 AM

That's an E36. They came as 3.0 and 3.2.. and were never 252kW like the current one.

The 3.2 litre version of the E36 M3 came with 179kW @ 6000rpm and 320Nm @ 3800rpm... did 0-100km/h in 5.5, and the 1/4 in 14.2 as you said. It weighed 1432kg.

Tornado · 01-04-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

That's an E36. They came as 3.0 and 3.2.. and were never 252kW like the current one.

The 3.2 litre version of the E36 M3 came with 179kW @ 6000rpm and 320Nm @ 3800rpm... did 0-100km/h in 5.5, and the 1/4 in 14.2 as you said. It weighed 1432kg.

Didn't know about the power figure, just did a quick google search for it and thats what I got.

Do you know what year the E46 first came out ?

Steffo · 01-04-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tornado

Didn't know about the power figure, just did a quick google search for it and thats what I got.

Do you know what year the E46 first came out ?

E46 3-Series came out in 1998... and the M3 in 2000.

BA GT-HO · 01-04-2005, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

My car $10,000. face on BMW's owner when I kick his **** priceless!

Ya but it isn't half as nice is it? Not having a go but I would rather a BMW anyday of the week. Its not all about straightline performance.

Casper · 01-04-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

Considering that a Falcon XT 6cyl sedan does 7.23 0-100 and 15.28 1/4.. with 12kW more power, 80Nm more torque and 152kg more weight then the 330i.. I'd say thats pretty good.. especially since the 330i is pushing 8.94kg per kW and the Falcon is pushing 9.18kg per kW.

This has always been a bit of an enigma to me. I've seen plenty of BA XT's run the 1/4 and not one of them got even remotely close to a 15.3 second pass. I think the best I saw was a 15.8
I may be wrong but I think this 15.3 time is a bit dodgy to be honest.

dansedgli · 01-04-2005, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BA GT-HO

Ya but it isn't half as nice is it? Not having a go but I would rather a BMW anyday of the week. Its not all about straightline performance.

Yeah me too for sure. An EB will always just be a falcon and nothing more no matter how fast it is. But still...lots faster one-eighth the price

: :nutsycuck

dansedgli · 01-04-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

This has always been a bit of an enigma to me. I've seen plenty of BA XT's run the 1/4 and not one of them got even remotely close to a 15.3 second pass. I think the best I saw was a 15.8
I may be wrong but I think this 15.3 time is a bit dodgy to be honest.

Pearly ran 15.5 in a rental Xt at heathcote!

Casper · 01-04-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

Pearly ran 15.5 in a rental Xt at heathcote!

I thought it was 15.8? Ah well, there you go. Still, thats still a leap to 15.28. Maybe the manual is the difference.

Cobra · 01-04-2005, 03:44 PM

I thought pearlys rental was the 15.8 that Casper is talking about.

dansedgli · 01-04-2005, 03:45 PM

Dammit! Im probably wrong then.

Cobra · 01-04-2005, 03:47 PM

Maybe we should just ask Pearly LOL. But I've been to every heathcote meet, and Pearly only rented an XT once, the silver one, and the best time of that day was 15.8 i am positive.

Casper · 01-04-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobra

Maybe we should just ask Pearly LOL. But I've been to every heathcote meet, and Pearly only rented an XT once, the silver one, and the best time of that day was 15.8 i am positive.

Thats what I thought.

dansedgli · 01-04-2005, 03:55 PM

You guys are right, I ventured to the old land and searched.
I should refer to my sig.

<td>Pearly<td>
<td>157<td>
<td>XT<td>
<td>15.816<td>

Casper · 01-04-2005, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

You guys are right, I ventured to the old land and searched.
I should refer to my sig.

<td>Pearly<td>
<td>157<td>
<td>XT<td>
<td>15.816<td>

Sorry Dan, I didnt want to send you back "there". I'd rather have been wrong.

XR Martin · 01-04-2005, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

That's an E36. They came as 3.0 and 3.2.. and were never 252kW like the current one.

The 3.2 litre version of the E36 M3 came with 179kW @ 6000rpm and 320Nm @ 3800rpm... did 0-100km/h in 5.5, and the 1/4 in 14.2 as you said. It weighed 1432kg.

Wrong, the Europe and Aussie Spec E36 3.2 M3s came with 236kw and 350Nm
US M3s only came with 179kw.

**Stav** · 01-04-2005, 08:55 PM

Any way I really never had a liking for the old bmw 330ci coupe until my brother bought one outright last year.Yes I dragged him on a private road when my car was dev 1 spec with shift kit.Form 0-100 kmph I matched it.Once it hit 100 kpmph that thing just left me for dead!!!So there bulk power comes on really strong at 100 kmph and up.Not to say they are sluggish below this either.