I have Stuffed Up! - Page 2

bArNsY · 20-09-2006, 12:04 PM

: schmidty I want reciepts off you!

Adam

promina · 20-09-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 2002auxr6

yeah im pretty much stuffed

times like these you need a positive attitude.

go to your police station, and asked for advice/help. believe it or not, they want to help the community

GCFordChic · 20-09-2006, 12:15 PM

Your starting point...

Victoria Legal Aid

Look through the traffic and fines part and the resources link.

Although you may not actually be able to get access to a Legal Aid Lawyer, there are lots of links here with pretty helpful information and clarifications including these ones...

Road To Court PDF File

Your Day in Court PDF file

Another one, Law Institute of Victoria
Helpful in finding a lawyer and professional legal advice, check it out even if you think you cant afford a lawyer, there may be a chance you can get free advice and even representation.

And Aussie Legal a good source of links to valuable information.

DONT GIVE UP YET!

schmidty · 20-09-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bArNsY

: schmidty I want reciepts off you!

Adam

If you can get a speeding ticket running down the street with 2 wheels dude i'll just pay it!!!!!

Reciept is in the mail ..................

Best peice of advice i could give, is get the BEST legal representation you can or can't afford. Don't get someone cheap, or a duty lawyer, get someone suitably qualified with a proven record in traffic related cases and criminal law. You'll see why when you go to court. I got nailed for running an orange light, only having 1 P plate displayed and careless driving for going through an intersection too fast about 6 years ago. Got the wrong cop on the wrong night, threw the book at me for stuff that really only warranted a talking to but could have seen me off the road for 9 months.

I got a lawyer that cost me about 6 weeks wages at the time and my case was last for the day. He pretty much stood up and made every other solicitor there look like they were still students. Very impressive even down making sure i had character references from people who are seen to have significance in the community, having a large group of family and friends in attendance showing i had great support from those around me. Gave advice on how to get people to word my character references and even where people should sit when in the court room.

He said we could have been cocky and gotten off, but was safer to show i had some remorse and go for 28 days special conditions saying i could only drive for anything relating to work purposes but no conviction recorded and my license not taken.

Worth every $$

GCFordChic · 20-09-2006, 12:18 PM

But the evil little side of me really likes Schmidty's plan.... :Up_to_som :evil_laug

Ringo · 20-09-2006, 12:25 PM

2002XR6 - If you ahve no proof the car was sold then they have no proof they bought the car and it is theirs.

Declare it stolen.

If they get pulled up and have proof they bought it from you then that becomes your proof you sold it to them.

Ringo · 20-09-2006, 12:26 PM

You can't be the first person this has happened too....surely there has to be some precedent.

GCFordChic · 20-09-2006, 12:32 PM

I also came across this website...

Looks like alot of handy stuff...

Victorian Motor Traffic Lawyer

go through all the links on the left, particularly the "legal advice" link.

AUTickford · 20-09-2006, 12:35 PM

Gc ford chick that is an awesome ute!!!!!!

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Bucknaked · 20-09-2006, 12:37 PM

How come you didn't do the notice of disposal. In Canberra, its the first thing you do. New owner has 14 days to register the car in their name. You should always take care of the details straight up. Never take anyone's word for it.

GCFordChic · 20-09-2006, 12:55 PM

I really should be off to uni (yay for Trusts and Admin Law...

: ) hope you found some of those links useful. If you would like any more detailed info ill check back here later, or PM me, ill try help you find it. There is no substitute for sitting down and nutting it out with a lawyer though, hopefully that is an option for you...

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Originally Posted by AUTickford

Gc ford chick that is an awesome ute!!!!!!

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--My Ford, who art really Blue, let photoshop be thy friend... :monkes: --

I do plan on getting the Pursuit 250 sprayed Pink one day...might just have to wait to find another one that i can do whatever i want to...then my fiancee (GCPursuitPower) will not be able to stop me from taking it to get resprayed. I must say that i think it does look pretty good in my avatar, did a realistic job in good ol photoshop...for now though, the avatar is just a picture of what i see when i look at the ute...

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2002auxr6 · 20-09-2006, 01:31 PM

thanks for all your help guys, i have the found the guys address and im going there tonight to talk to him

**Full Noise** · 20-09-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2002auxr6

thanks for all your help guys, i have the found the guys address and im going there tonight to talk to him

Take a baseball bat with you. :jab:

FRDXR6 · 20-09-2006, 02:45 PM

Goodwork, so he will either have to accept the fines or give you your car back for nothing.

Also take the forms that specify another driver was driving your vehicle at the time of the offence, so you can get it all sorted on the spot.

Abacus · 20-09-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FRDXR6

Goodwork, so he will either have to accept the fines or give you your car back for nothing.

Also take the forms that specify another driver was driving your vehicle at the time of the offence, so you can get it all sorted on the spot.

And take one or too "big" guys with you.

brenx · 20-09-2006, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 2002auxr6

thanks for all your help guys, i have the found the guys address and im going there tonight to talk to him

As much as you think you would have to cop all the fines. There's no way you'd actually have to cop them. Once recieved I would have filled out a stat dec to the affect that the car was sold with plates, new owner to provide a r/w cert. After the stat dec the fines will still come but you signed a stat dec stating you no longer own the car. As you no longer own the car police will put a note re the car. If fined by a traffic cop the drive will have to proove they werent driving when the infringments were made. Pretty hard to do when the cop has just pulled you over for speeding. It's called setting precedent.

I have to go through the very same BS when my Mrs has got an infringment notice while she was driving my car. It's a pain but well worth the trouble ;)

bArNsY · 20-09-2006, 03:23 PM

rock up with the copppers! sort it out quick and easy

2002auxr6 · 20-09-2006, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bArNsY

rock up with the copppers! sort it out quick and easy

lol the problem is ive been told he sold the car to someone else, that will create a bit of a problem

bArNsY · 20-09-2006, 03:36 PM

If im not mistaken if you claim that it is stolen (not been paid for), and if the vehicle can be tracked down, you still have legal ownership! Knowingly selling goods that you don't have legal ownership over is a criminal offence.

FRDXR6 · 20-09-2006, 05:16 PM

Very goodd point barnsy!

Dont let this blow over and cop a record on your driving sheet. Not only will you be financially out pocket from fines, but your insurance premiums will increase and the fact you lose your licence is ridiculous.

Now you having a starting point with this guy and several avenues you can pursue.

a.) Get him to say he was driving the car.
b.) He should get the fines as he was last known owner. If he refuses this tell him he sold a car legally not belonging to him and that you will now get the cops to charge him with Theft of a motor vehicle and handling stolen goods. That should make him a bit more co-operative!

GT-P BOSS · 21-09-2006, 09:11 AM

this car has changed hands a few times (must have been a real machine)

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2002auxr6 · 21-09-2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GT-P BOSS

this car has changed hands a few times (must have been a real machine)

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lol it actually had a worker 308 engine in it, went pretty good

postponed untill next month now, thank god, gives me more time to find the guy

bArNsY · 21-09-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 2002auxr6

gives me more time to find the guy

which one?

2002auxr6 · 21-09-2006, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bArNsY

which one?

the first one i sold it to