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Old 02-02-2007, 04:21 AM   #31
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thanks for that Steffo
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Old 02-02-2007, 07:47 AM   #32
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Wouldn't these things be as useless as a WRX except you can't carry people around in it?

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To put it simply, yes. The F6 Typhoon is faster then every single WRX and WRX STi ever sold in this country. That includes the famous WRX STi 22B.
I really doubt it is much faster if at all than a STi 22B Steffo.

0-100 in under 5 secs (4.7-4.9) and handling to boot. Remember this was years ago too.
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Old 02-02-2007, 08:26 AM   #33
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IIRC the 22B wasn't sold in Australia

Around a track a new STi is quicker than the F6. PCOTY got a 1:42.39 in the STi while the F6 posted a 1:43.32
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Anyone up for a Photoshop to see one with disco lights and police livery :

Police Elise :hihi:
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Uhm, even the first Elise, which had an 88kW 1.8litre Rover K-Series engine, was capable of 13's in the 1/4 mile, mid-high. There's never been an Elise as slow as what you're talking about.
Nope they're lucky to meek out high 14s the factory somewhat optimistically stated 14.7, high 13s is pure fantasy for the early models even taking into account the Toymotor powered ones are about 50% heavier then them.
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I'd like to see how they go driving them. Close ratios and manual. You have to be quick on your toes whilst concentrating on chasing someone down.
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:13 AM   #37
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I thought all police cars needed to be auto??
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I thought all police cars needed to be auto??
That's what I was thinking, hence my post above. Even if they converted this to an auto it would probably be slow as hell.
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:47 AM   #39
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wetherill park/out that way always seen to have the best cop cars :(
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good luck throwin a crim into that..?
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good luck throwin a crim into that..?
Tow them behind the car :
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:28 AM   #42
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tie them to the back lol..
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yes i envy police officers in a way but dont in others, is there really a need for such cars when pursuits are called off way before the speedlimiters on base model falcons and commodores, fair enough and xr8 or a ss but surely thats all they need
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http://www.fast-autos.net/vehicles/L...04/Elise_111R/

The current models with the 141kW 1.8litre Toyota engine have enough power to slaughter any FPV except a Typhoon and any HSV except a VE in a straight line. They're also faster then Evo's and STi's. Makes this the fastest police car ever used in Australia as far as I know.
What about the XY cop cars? or the INTERCEPTOR(for all the mad max fans)
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Make that the fastest car police have ever used in Australia.
In that the F6 is limited to 250km/h and the VZs were not limited and would go a bit faster (260 odd) then they would be the fastest, wouldn't they?

There is NO WAY that an Elise would be used as a police car. It would bankrupt NSW with workers comps claims.
Traffic coppers spend their whole day driving and getting in and out of the car constantly.
Drive one you will understand.....
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Old 02-02-2007, 12:52 PM   #46
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In that the F6 is limited to 250km/h and the VZs were not limited and would go a bit faster (260 odd) then they would be the fastest, wouldn't they?

There is NO WAY that an Elise would be used as a police car. It would bankrupt NSW with workers comps claims.
Traffic coppers spend their whole day driving and getting in and out of the car constantly.
Drive one you will understand.....
I meant acceleration. The F6 being in the 12's puts it ahead of any sedan ever built in Australia before.

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I really doubt it is much faster if at all than a STi 22B Steffo.

0-100 in under 5 secs (4.7-4.9) and handling to boot. Remember this was years ago too.
Best times I've found for both are as follows...

22B - 0-100km/h: 4.2 seconds, 1/4 mile: 13.6 seconds

F6 Typhoon - 0-100km/h: 4.9 seconds, 1/4 mile: 12.7 seconds

AWD jump... then just gets run down to almost a full second difference in a 1/4 mile... and that's quite alot.

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Nope they're lucky to meek out high 14s the factory somewhat optimistically stated 14.7, high 13s is pure fantasy for the early models even taking into account the Toymotor powered ones are about 50% heavier then them.
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1915.html

14.4 seconds on there, which is quite a bit better then 'a tad under 15 seconds,' as you know, 6 tenths in a drag race is slaughter. And if you google around you can find better times then that... 14.2, 14.1, 14.0, 13.9s etc. The thing weighs 675kg with 89.5kW. That's 132.5kW/tonne power/weight. A current model WRX, which is proven to do 14 dead/high 13s, has 119.4kW/tonne. A BA XR6 Turbo, also proven to run similar times, has 139.9kW/tonne. Its got the power to do that time with its weight. Just needs the driver in it to do it....
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I meant acceleration. The F6 being in the 12's puts it ahead of any sedan ever built in Australia before.



Best times I've found for both are as follows...

22B - 0-100km/h: 4.2 seconds, 1/4 mile: 13.6 seconds

F6 Typhoon - 0-100km/h: 4.9 seconds, 1/4 mile: 12.7 seconds

AWD jump... then just gets run down to almost a full second difference in a 1/4 mile... and that's quite alot.



http://www.supercars.net/cars/1915.html

14.4 seconds on there, which is quite a bit better then 'a tad under 15 seconds,' as you know, 6 tenths in a drag race is slaughter. And if you google around you can find better times then that... 14.2, 14.1, 14.0, 13.9s etc. The thing weighs 675kg with 89.5kW. That's 132.5kW/tonne power/weight. A current model WRX, which is proven to do 14 dead/high 13s, has 119.4kW/tonne. A BA XR6 Turbo, also proven to run similar times, has 139.9kW/tonne. Its got the power to do that time with its weight. Just needs the driver in it to do it....
12.7 seconds? Yeh right.

For future reference police cars are not weekend warrior dragmobiles.
I have had a play with our shiny red Typhoons. They are fitted with standard dunlop sportmax tyres, not slicks and are absolutely factory standard and are run on 95ron not 98ron (BP premium not ultimate). Apart from the fact that they carry two big fat (old) HP coppers (the children don't get to play with the good toys) and they are fitted with a lot of gizmos (decader, two radios, all the computer crap, all the safety junk in the boot, aux kit etc.)

They are not THAT quick but then again neither were the monaros or SSs.

They also have a VERY non aerodynamic disco on the roof which make a hell of a noise and buffet about above 130 or so.

There is no car yet that goes faster than the radio.........
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Old 02-02-2007, 04:52 PM   #48
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I went in a new WRX the other night and was honestly not impressed. There only pulling 15`s anyway. XR6 Trubo or XR8 would eat it. Maybe not off the mark but after that cya later
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:28 PM   #49
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F6 Typhoon - 0-100km/h: 4.9 seconds, 1/4 mile: 12.7 seconds



Didn't realize the pigs were given Orion F6s! :

You're right most of the time with your stats, but those times are very, very optimistic. Try another Google link.
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:31 PM   #50
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F6 Typhoon - 0-100km/h: 4.9 seconds, 1/4 mile: 12.7 seconds
12.7 stock? Show me!!
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:42 PM   #51
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i would say that the elise was a private cop car (owned by the cop) he bought i with all the money earned from bribes and drug dealing. lol. (no offence to any cop on the forums)
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in QLD we have F6 Typhoons as highway patrol at the moment
replaced the VX Monaros they had before

so fastest car the police actually USE would be in QLD
Don't forget the AURIONS Q Police have now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Didn't realize the pigs were given Orion F6s! :

You're right most of the time with your stats, but those times are very, very optimistic. Try another Google link.
And I'm right now. It was by a member on this forum, I'm still looking for the thread in the Drag Racing section, it was 12.73 @ 109.

There's also been a 12.94 @ 108. And with those sort of trap speeds... a perfect run (launch, shifts, weather etc) could theoretically yeild better then 12.5. The F6 is a much faster car then most people believe.
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You are right on the money Steffo.
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I dare say it was a mockup for a 1 off promo deal. For starters the electrics wouldn't support all the gear. Not to mention it would get stuck on the first speed hump.
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Not to mention that pretty much any cop wearing all that crap around his waist probably wouldn't fit in the seat anyway, let alone without it :

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Hell, I had enough trouble in the Exige demo! And I'm not that big at all.
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Maybe a bit off topic. But I was in a "meeting" with a copper the other day. He was saying they hate fords due to soft suspension. I think he was referring to the BA XT variety. They argue about who gets stuck with the fords at shift change.

These guys have all kinds of crap. Fully marked volvo and barina cop cars to name a couple of oddities. They only use them for community events like going to schools. Probably what the lotus was for. i.e. on loan and tarted up for an event.
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didnt the VIC POLICE have a VIPER?

i doubt the F6 is the quickest EVER but would be up there ;)
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