Vegetarians, a quick question or 3...

[LuvinmyEB]

Originally Posted by bindi

Look, he has an interesting theory but it's just that, a THEORY. I hate the guy, he's ruined my cooking life! My husband is so convinced that this guy has it right that, as I said before, I have to cook many different meals each night to satisfy everyone's dietary requirements. I'm over it. My hubby was a veggo before this book, and I think he's ruining his health by eating so much meat now.

And the website has cashed in on his original book - this whole secretor/non-secretor stuff (just buy these strips and you can tailor your diet)... load of bollox. The diet's been debunked by doctors and health professionals the world over. In reality it's so strict that it's almost impossible to have a meal out anywhere.

My father did Atkins and he also tried this blood type diet and said that Atkins was much easier... _

I just posted the website for Blue AU's interest.

I believe the only way to lose weight and feel less sluggish is to diet properly (don't starve yourself), have proper meals, cut out the junk (including alcohol) and exercise. Use common sense, don't knock yourself out if you do slip up and have some chocolate or something, you're only human.

I can't believe that I once bought a liver cleansing diet book thinking that would work. :

Eating properly and exercise is what worked for me.

Bindi, your cooking 3 different meals a night? I'd be telling people if they want something different from what your cooking they had better learn to cook rather quickly!! :ticking:

[zetec]

Screw that. I love my meat. If we were supposed to be veggos then why did God make cows taste so good?!?!!!

Probably the main reason we eat beef and drink milk and wear leather is because cows are the easiest, stupidest, cheapest source for so many possible different kinds of foods and resources. I have heard the stories about us not being designed to eat meat and drink milk and they make sense, but these days eating everything either gives you cancer, is bad for you or makes you fat. I'd rather just keep eating what tastes good in moderation along with healthy foods. There are many many good things to come from milk (calcium for example). Female vegetarians can suffer very badly not only from iron deficiency (given how much blood and iron they lose in their monthly cycle) but also from osteoporosis and bone diseases.

What I think makes the most sense is a bit of everything in moderation, not TOO much milk, not too much meat, we can all agree that veggies, fruit, nuts and cereals are good for us and that a little bit of meat can work magic, but we do require fats in our diets along with proteins and carbs. I say long live the cow, long live the chocolate milk and long live the vegetarians for keeping uns honest!!!!

As for vegans, let them do their thing but I for one don't envy their choices! Just mutual respect. Don't bash me for swallowing cows and I won't pay you out for being a birdseed sucker.

[bindi]

Originally Posted by The MaDDeSTMaN

Wow, looks like I opened a bit of a can of worms, LOL! Bindi, thanks for your posts in this thread, very interesting... Do you live in Nimbin? :hihi: Just joking

Yes you did Troy!

NP bout the posts, I can talk the leg off a chair so it doesn't bother me to post a heap (shame the post count doesn't work in the Bar hey).

No I don't live in Nimbin, but I assure you, if you ever come up to Katoomba NSW for the Winter Magic Festival (June 19th this year) then you will see what I'm talking about when I say alternative and environmentally aware - it's like all these hippies just come out of nowhere... :hihi:

And yes Nikki I am very very VERY over the whole cooking thing. I am showing my eldest two how to cook so they will just leave me the hell alone _2: . Now for the hardest part - to get them to clean up after themselves...

[LuvinmyEB]

Originally Posted by zetec

I have heard the stories about us not being designed to eat meat and drink milk and they make sense, but these days eating everything either gives you cancer, is bad for you or makes you fat. I'd rather just keep eating what tastes good in moderation along with healthy foods. There are many many good things to come from milk (calcium for example). Female vegetarians can suffer very badly not only from iron deficiency (given how much blood and iron they lose in their monthly cycle) but also from osteoporosis and bone diseases.

What I think makes the most sense is a bit of everything in moderation, not TOO much milk, not too much meat, we can all agree that veggies, fruit, nuts and cereals are good for us and that a little bit of meat can work magic, but we do require fats in our diets along with proteins and carbs.

If I didn't have the flu I would have written something as coherent as that. :P

Women do need Iron, the best source of that is (lean) red meat, I eat a little extra before and after that monthly cycle as well as a lot of green vegetables. I was on B12 shots for a long time because my body didn't seem to be absorbing it at all, the next time I went for my regular shot, my levels were normal, I'd added more red meat to my diet.

I've had a few falls and wrecked the lower part of my back (L2, L3, L4) I believe that's how I got osteoporosis. I'm lactose intolerant so drinking milk is out of the question, however I can have it in sauces, cheese, low GI ice cream etc.

Oh how I long for a nice big glass of cold chocolate milk. :sm_drool:

[LuvinmyEB]

Originally Posted by bindi

And yes Nikki I am very very VERY over the whole cooking thing. I am showing my eldest two how to cook so they will just leave me the hell alone _2: . Now for the hardest part - to get them to clean up after themselves...

Do what I did, develop an allergy to dishwashing liquid. :hihi:

[Dez]

Originally Posted by zetec

I say long live the cow,

as long as they only live long enough to develop nice juicy tender steaks for us! lol

[The MaDDeSTMaN]

Originally Posted by zetec

As for vegans, let them do their thing but I for one don't envy their choices! Just mutual respect. Don't bash me for swallowing cows and I won't pay you out for being a birdseed sucker.

Well said mate, mutal respect, I respect vegetarians and I hope they have the decency to show me respect in return.

Originally Posted by bindi

Yes you did Troy!

NP bout the posts, I can talk the leg off a chair so it doesn't bother me to post a heap (shame the post count doesn't work in the Bar hey).

No I don't live in Nimbin, but I assure you, if you ever come up to Katoomba NSW for the Winter Magic Festival (June 19th this year) then you will see what I'm talking about when I say alternative and environmentally aware - it's like all these hippies just come out of nowhere... :hihi:

And yes Nikki I am very very VERY over the whole cooking thing. I am showing my eldest two how to cook so they will just leave me the hell alone :voldar02: . Now for the hardest part - to get them to clean up after themselves...

Hehe, I wasn't expecting to open up a can of worms, although that is probably one meat source that both vegetarians AND meat eaters wouldn't consume, lol!

Good luck getting them to clean up after themselves, some people never learn that skill!

Originally Posted by LuvinmyEB

I believe the only way to lose weight and feel less sluggish is to diet properly (don't starve yourself), have proper meals, cut out the junk (including alcohol) and exercise. Use common sense, don't knock yourself out if you do slip up and have some chocolate or something, you're only human.

Yup, if people have a good understanding of what they consume and eat a balanced diet, as well as getting regular exercise, losing or maintaining weight is no problem - unless of course there is an underlying medical condition which is affecting a persons weight. I'm sure that anyone (who doesn't have a medical condition which in some way affects their weight) could lose or maintain their weight if they ate the same diet we eat here.

Originally Posted by zetec

What I think makes the most sense is a bit of everything in moderation, not TOO much milk, not too much meat, we can all agree that veggies, fruit, nuts and cereals are good for us and that a little bit of meat can work magic, but we do require fats in our diets along with proteins and carbs.

Couldn't agree more, but you forgot to mention cream pastries mate :hihi: