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126 new cases for Australia and 15 deaths sees the CMR rise to 2.603% while active drop to 3,459. NSW recorded 12 cases, Queensland recorded 2 cases with the balance in Victoria.
2 new cases and 0 deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.250% and active cases drop to 115. The UK had 1,733 new cases and as we know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines we are going to ignore those figures. Just over 41k new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,090 deaths sees CMR drop to 3.020% and active cases drop to 40.6% with the raw numbers actually dropping. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: Global cases pass the 26M mark with the last 1M taking 4 days again; India completes 45M, Russia 37M and Morocco 2M tests; Asia records a new daily high of 111,783 new cases; Europe records a new daily high of 36,362 new cases; Palestine (596), Moldova (632), Czechia (656), Paraguay (800), Nepal (1,228), Israel (2,991), Indonesia (3,622), Iraq (4,755), Spain (8,959), Argentiona (12,026) and India (84,516) all recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.
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Government officials attempt to shame anti government protestors who are protesting oppressive government legislation about political protest at a shrine built to remember the fallen who died fighting oppressive foreign governments. Yeah, sorry that doesn't hold any weight in my eyes. |
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Love patronizing comments, i wasn't debating the pros and cons of mask safety/use just pointing out what a god awful experience wearing one was, by the way there wasn't much protecting us from them by there lack of mask use they insisted on.
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Either way, covid has demonstrated a lot of ugly gaps in society and duty of care. If you go into an office, the office want to protect themselves from you, they don't necessarily care about protecting you from them. So who gets to insist that others wear a mask? Who gets to refuse until the other party complies? That's actually why I wear a mask that filters air on ingress, not egress, we have no control over other people and it's become obvious that most people don't care about the safety of anyone else. |
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Does the arrest satisfy s321G? |
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Fortunately my journeys underground are limited to checking and inspecting, but the workers do that for 14 days straight at a time. And they're glad to be wearing the mask because the alternative is gobbing down lungfuls of crap that would suffocate you in a matter of hours. Nobody ever said that wearing a mask was fun. I've worked on sites where everybody carried a full-face gas-mask and personal gas-alarm. And we did it without complaint because the alternative was a quick and painful death.
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But volume wise, we might have to do the reverse
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My sister has a new adopted Greyhound that needs attention, company, washing etc.
Yet all shut? I must be naive as I had no idea a basic but imo important service like that is closed. Unbelievable. |
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What is it you actually want, Franco? What's the ideal next action/s on a state and federal level in your opinion?
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Is it a full moon tonight??
Just asking. ![]() edit: Just had a look outside.. it IS a full moon tonight! That explains a lot. Last edited by Tickford.; 04-09-2020 at 09:45 PM. |
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International borders can stay closed though - maybe open up to NZ and some South Pacific island nations. If you're going to lock up the state under house arrest and treat us like children at least be a responsible parent - how many of the deaths in Victoria due to COVID19 have been because of government failure with quarantine hotels? Where the private guards were trained in diversity rather than pandemic response? Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 04-09-2020 at 09:49 PM. |
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And by "State Government to stop trying to control everyone's life to the millimeter" you mean "do nothing even though there's a global pandemic going on", yes? By the way, there are no "at risk groups". Everyone is at risk, even kids. That should be evident now that we've seen reports of kawasaki disease in covid kids here in australia. |
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- Massive damage to the economy, - Victoria doing so badly that its effected national economy - Hundreds of thousands out of work - Draconian legislation implemented enforced by a police force all too willing to persecute the very people they're supposed to 'protect' - Police picking and choosing who they want to enforce the law on - Restrictions on movement - If you're lucky enough to still be in work you need 'permits' to go - Staff reductions by 33% for those still open - 'Masks' which do nothing are mandatory - Harshest restrictions implemented - Worst performing Australian state for COVID-19 Remember last time you tried this and I asked the CMR on under 30s and it was one person who died? For a state supposedly so intent on protecting everyone they've sure managed to kill a lot of our elderly citizens through their own mismanagement. |
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doesnt sound like a responsible owner if the basics cant be covered in house
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You might need to explain that one to me because there doesn't appear to be any logic there. ![]() Last edited by russellw; 05-09-2020 at 10:04 AM. Reason: Removed deleted post content |
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Or are you also advocating kids be allowed to take nuts to school now because **** everyone else who has an allergy? Why should someone's child be denied because of someone else's allergy? Why should I avoid drinking and driving when you could just stay off the roads if you don't want to risk getting into an accident? It's not just all about you. If we find out in the coming years that covid causes major organ damage and reduced life spans in people who even had mild cases, I bet you'll be the first to squawk about how you weren't protected. |
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In regards to this chick being arrested I think my only sticking point is the cuffs were a bit much. You'd have to know that trying to muster a protest would be against public health orders whether you agree with it or not.
I definitely think there has been an overreaction to it too. It is standard police behaviour. Serve a warrant and seize evidence. No different to anything else. I don't know if there has been any BLM protests organised for a while but remember everyone raging about how soft the police were too. So perhaps now they are trying to set a standard and if so I expect it to be applied equally regardless of the cause. |
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What is with UK's figures - Nearly a month of averaging 1000 cases per day but averaging less than 10 deaths per day???? Do bad teeth protect against the virus or something?
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Unfortunately, if everyone isn't reading from the same hymn sheet then we are never going to understand the real impact this is having. In the case of the UK, it always looked that their 12-14%+ CMR was too high compared to similar countries and you can't even blame low testing as they have tested about a third of the adult population but they are now going too far the other way. Sensibly, you'd apply the 2-3% that seems to be the norm in most Western countries with reasonable health care systems so the last month worth of cases (34,788) should have resulted in something like 700-1,000 deaths and not the 319 reported.
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If you don't like what the data is telling you, just change the way you measure it
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The overhanded tactics of the VicPol is being brought to the forefront. Next year is going to be the year of "Class Action".
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