US Elections - Boring or Important to Aust?

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

He can't drain the swamp yet, he has to wait until Jan 20th to start that. Even then it will take yonks because they're so far entrenched in Washington.

Yes but he is still making appointments and it seems to me like he is plucking the old turds out of the punchpowl and putting fresh ones in like everyone before him. Only a month to go before inauguration.

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by Trump

The reason you didn't get a specific answer to define what "great again" means is because whenever anyone uses the usual metrics to gauge the health economy, they are so far beyond wrong, they would need to work hard to get to wrong.

If the method and process for gathering statistics was consistent throughout the years, your idea then has merit. However, the statistics mobs change the goalposts to suit the prevailing propaganda of the day on a regular basis. In an environment like this, the statistics they spout lose any and all meaning decade to decade, let alone any period beyond that.

You are certianly welcome to your opinion, but it often seems to rely on assertions and conspiracy theories.

The collection of unemployment data may have critics but the way it is collected is an intenationally agreed standard
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@....A?opendocument

So you can compare the unemployment rate historically and internationally. The idea a government could fudge thier numbers and not be held to account by; the opposition, minor parties, section of the media, employees of the public service, any member of the public with intenet access etc etc, is just too fantastic for me to imagine. And I love a good conspiricy theory!

[superyob]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

The idea a government could fudge thier numbers and not be held to account by; the opposition, minor parties, section of the media, employees of the public service, any member of the public with intenet access etc etc, is just too fantastic for me to imagine.

Not if both major parties have a globalist agenda that keeps us beholden to the UN or international interests...

[Trump]

Originally Posted by superyob

Not if both major parties have a globalist agenda that keeps us beholden to the UN or international interests...

You don't even need to invoke ideas of globalism to see the "statistics" for what they are. And that is total baloney. When Centrelink deem someone employed for an hour a week as employed and thus doesn't end up on the monthly figures, any so-called accepted international standard doesn't mean anything.

The only way anyone will see Centrelink in its true colours is if they work there for a little while. Six months is all it takes to see that it is a political play thing subject to pressure, pandering and point scoring. The welfare of its clientale is secondary.

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by Trump

You don't even need to invoke ideas of globalism to see the "statistics" for what they are. And that is total baloney. When Centrelink deem someone employed for an hour a week as employed and thus doesn't end up on the monthly figures, any so-called accepted international standard doesn't mean anything.

The only way anyone will see Centrelink in its true colours is if they work there for a little while. Six months is all it takes to see that it is a political play thing subject to pressure, pandering and point scoring. The welfare of its clientale is secondary.

I am not responsible for the invention of the spinning wheel, Windows 10, or the international standard for compiling unemployment statistics http://www.ilo.org/public/english/bu...es/ecacpop.pdf. I understand these things made some people unhappy.

I am not suggesting someone who works one hour per week is fully employed neither is the standard. It is simply the standard way of viewing the statistics since 1982. Weather you accept it or not does not change that fact.

So now that we have established that, what unemployment rate will Mr Trump achieve to make America great again?

The unemployment rate is currently 4.6%, so what are we saying half? 2.3% unemployment would be the lowest in American history I think. Not to mention the upward pressure such low unemployment would have on wages. But I'm confident Mr Trump has all that covered

[Syndrome]

All the noise about the electoral college blocking Trump came to nothing. He is a month away from becoming the 45th president of the USofA.

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

All the noise about the electoral college blocking Trump came to nothing. He is a month away from becoming the 45th president of the USofA.

Yep, it's comical. They want the Electoral college binned, but used it as best as they could as a last resort hoping 37 republicans would vote for someone else, and she lost even more votes!!!

Michael 'Eat' Moore said he would pay the fine for any republican not to vote for Trump. Wonder if he will pay the fine for the Democrats that voted against Hillary?

[Moby Vic]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

He's on Twitter so he can by-pass the main stream media that did everything in their power to lie, bull&^%%, collude, suppress, block and stop him from winning.

He's too busy on the phone to ceos making deals to bother about the intelligent reports, that's what Pence is for.

He's on Twitter because he's a vapid imbecile, like most Twitter users. Twitter use is not a strength for a president.

We have a free press in this country. The president elect is doing everything he can to subvert that. That is not good by any means.

How do you know what he's doing? And presidents aren't supposed to be making "deals" with anyone, especially CEOs.

Show me anything in the United States Constitution where it says anything about the vice president attending intelligence briefings. Trump is shirking his job and he hasn't even been sworn in yet.

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Moby Vic

And presidents aren't supposed to be making "deals" with anyone, especially CEOs.

Well then you're definitely not going to like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPM4HGn1fl4

The men that walked out with little shiny stars on their shoulders seemed genuinely happy.

What's so bad about saving $$$ and creating/keeping jobs? And the trillion + he will request to re-build your infrastructure?

[Peterwl]

The dream team !


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...ite-house.html

[CoupeKing]

The Trump effect

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...l?refresh=true

[Express]

Donald Trump has a favorite carmaker, and that might be a problem



The Washington Post
By Max Ehrenfreund and Jim Tankersley

22 December, 2016




Ed Welburn, left, then-General Motors vice president of global design, watches the world debut of the 2015 Cadillac Escalade with Melania and Donald Trump in 2013. (Cadillac)


The love affair between Cadillac and Donald Trump peaked in the late 1980s, when they teamed up on a line of limousines called “the Trump Series.” The most luxurious model came with black, Italian-leather seats, aircraft sound insulation, a television and VCR, a cellular telephone, 24-karat-gold plating, a hidden safe and a paper shredder. The car stretched nearly 23½ feet long.

“I’m very honored that they built me the first one,” Trump said, unveiling the Golden Edition in 1988, “and, frankly, I deserve it.”

Trump has enjoyed a long and sometimes lucrative relationship with Cadillac, the brand his father drove when Trump was a child. General Motors, which makes Cadillacs, was a regular advertiser on Trump's television show, “The Apprentice,” where its products were sometimes featured in challenges for contestants. Cadillac was a longtime sponsor of a golf tournament at a Trump-owned course in Florida. Trump, in turn, has appeared at launch events to promote GM vehicles on several occasions, including one for the 2015 Cadillac Escalade.

Trump is now president-elect, and he has styled himself as a critic in chief of American companies that move factory jobs to foreign countries. On the campaign trail, he made a few mentions of GM, which is in the middle of a $5 billion plan to expand production in Mexico. But the automaker has largely escaped the worst of Trump's wrath.

In a statement sent to reporters in June, Trump criticized GM's Mexico expansion. “Many companies — like Ford, General Motors, Nabisco, Carrier — are moving production to Mexico,” the statement read. But in the version of the statement posted to the campaign's website, the reference to GM has been removed.

A GM spokesman said Trump has no business relationship with Cadillac. There is no evidence that his past relationships with GM have influenced his conduct as a candidate and president-elect. But the difference in how he has treated GM and, say, Ford — both iconic Detroit automakers — highlights a challenge Trump will face as president: how to avoid the appearance of playing favorites with companies he has done business with.

Trump frequently criticized Ford on the campaign trail for its plans to move small-car production to Mexico. Last month, he announced that he had persuaded Ford not to move a production line of sport-utility vehicles from Kentucky to Mexico, a decision that the company and union officials said did not affect any American jobs.

In a statement, Hope Hicks, a spokeswoman for Trump, said GM, “along with many other companies he is speaking to, will be encouraged to keep jobs here in the United States.”

But Trump has not criticized GM for its plans to import an SUV built in China, or for large investments in production facilities in South Korea. He did not speak out when GM announced last month that it will lay off 2,000 workers at factories in Ohio and Michigan, nor when the company said this week that it would lay off 1,300 workers in Detroit. (The company blamed both moves on softening U.S. demand for smaller cars and sedans; one of the sedans produced at the Ohio plant facing layoffs is the Cruze, which is produced, in hatchback form, in Mexico.)

GM produces about 19 percent of the cars it sells in North America in Mexico, similar to the figure for Fiat-Chrysler, according to data from the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor, Mich.; Ford produces about 12 percent there. There are GM plants at four locations in Mexico, and the company announced two years ago that new investments would create about 5,600 new positions for Mexican workers.

GM also imports the Buick Envision from China, a decision that has drawn the ire of organized labor. Workers have nicknamed the Envision the “Invasion.”

On the campaign trail, Trump largely stayed mum on those decisions, even as he criticized Ford. For instance, in the opening minutes of his first debate with Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, Trump falsely claimed Ford had plans to lay off employees.

“Ford is leaving — you see that,” Trump said. “Their small-car division — thousands of jobs, leaving Michigan, leaving Ohio.”

While Ford does plan to relocate its small-car production to Mexico, the company said its employees in the United States will continue working, building larger vehicles.

One of the few moments when Trump mentioned GM on the trail came in Grand Rapids, Mich. a week before the election. There, he used layoffs at one of the company's plants to attack not the company but his Democratic opponent.

“GM laid off 314 workers at the Lake Orion assembly plant in 2013 because of imports from the South Korean trade deal pushed by Hillary,” Trump said.

After winning the election, Trump appointed GM's chairman and chief executive, Mary Barra, to an economic advisory panel.

Cadillac Vice President of Marketing, Don Butler, and Ivanka Trump at the launch party for Cadillac, a luxury art book published by Assouline. Cadillac Vice President of Marketing Don Butler and Ivanka Trump pose at the release party for a luxury art book published by Assouline in New York in December 2012. (Cadillac).

In the past, Trump was a regular at the automaker's events. In 2005, he appeared at the New York International Auto Show with Bob Lutz, then GM's vice chairman. The pair held a news conference on the new Cadillac XLR-V, a muscle car, according to news reports. In 2013, Donald and Melania Trump appeared at the debut of the latest Escalade. The couple sat with Ed Welburn, then the company's vice president for global design.

“I think they've done a great job, really great job. They've really done a fantastic job. We love it,” Trump said, according to footage of that event from Cadillac.

Melody Lee, the director of brand marketing at Cadillac, said the company frequently invites “celebrities and influencers” to its events.

“It's a standard process,” she said, “and the Trumps must have been on that invitation list.”

Last year, his campaign told The Washington Post that a Cadillac Escalade was one of two American cars that Trump owned at the time, along with a Tesla. GM also promoted its products on “The Apprentice,” his reality-television show. The Pontiac appeared on the show in 2005 and 2006, according to a statement from the company. Also in 2006, contestants were tasked with planning a three-hour training session for Chevrolet dealers, focused on the Tahoe.

Luigi Zingales, an economist at the University of Chicago, said Trump's divergent treatment of GM and Ford on the stump raises the specter of government favoritism to specific companies, a practice economists generally believe can hurt the economy.

“It looks more and more [like] the behavior of a crony capitalist,” Zingales said. “The issue is you don’t want to be in a country where the president picks and chooses who to blast and who to promote in completely arbitrary fashion.”

Not every past partnership with Trump has worked out for GM. The Trump line of limos, for example, never really made it to the road.

At the unveiling, Trump called the car “the ultimate limousine to be found anywhere in the world.” In his book “The Art of the Deal,” Trump wrote that he received a “beautiful gold Cadillac Allanté” as a gift from the company on completing the deal.

GM says today that only three of the Trump-edition cars were ever produced.


.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.27254fe4c6b7

[Mercury Bullet]

Beat me to it.

[Mercury Bullet]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Happy Holidays.

Merry Christmas.

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

ASX now down 3.8%.

Glad I sold my Commonwealth shares.

Happy New Year!



It's the Washington Post, better known as the Washington Compost. It's scientifically impossible to go anymore left. Even CNN havn't run with that story yet (not that I can find). It's hinting favouritism - not a good thing for anyone.

Strange how it took them all this time to run with that article.

[Express]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Happy New Year!



It's the Washington Post, better known as the Washington Compost. It's scientifically impossible to go anymore left. Even CNN havn't run with that story yet (not that I can find). It's hinting favouritism - not a good thing for anyone.

Strange how it took them all this time to run with that article.

You're right, the Washington Post and the New York Times are left wing newspapers but I first read this article on 9News.com.au before I saw it on the Washington Post site.

Unfortunately it's very difficult to find mainstream US newspapers that report positive comments on Trump but if you can find them post the articles up if you wish.

[Syndrome]

[Trump]

And now this consular tit-for-tat with the US in the lead-up to Trump's inauguration:

http://www.theage.com.au/world/russi...30-gtk4l8.html

[CoupeKing]

hahahahaah gamers ftw!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzvxn3Dp9Qk

[CoupeKing]

Still 10 days to go?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWAY2_65BIg

[Squalo]

Trump voters... LMAO

[Squalo]

Trump voters... LMAO

[Syndrome]

A coloured woman who does not buy the Trump is a racist and misogynist.

[Peterwl]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

A coloured woman who does not buy the Trump is a racist and misogynist.

A correction needed here, she is not a "colored woman" she is of Lebanese decent, probably Lebanese Christian.

All her videos are essential viewing as far as I am concerned. Just imagine if we could have someone like her in Australia commenting on our politicians.

They would have to ban her, D notice or something similar.

Not bad for a 65 year old as well. !

[Fordman1]

Let's see what comes out of the news about this "nut cases" past experiences in Russia.

I won't watch the video. Some will I'm sure.

[Mercury Bullet]

It's about to get very interesting.

The Russians won't release anything though, they've got him firmly planted right where they want him.

[Mercury Bullet]

Originally Posted by Squalo

Trump voters... LMAO

image

Lol, that's gold.

Like my dearly loved old man used to say..."if they had a brain they'd be dangerous."

[CoupeKing]

Trumps press conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV4DsSKkl7Q

Just for kicks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6RHIhn_T6w

[Pis-ton broke]

Originally Posted by Peterwl

Not bad for a 65 year old as well. !

yeah thats right, like ,wow

[Trump]

Dossier on Trump "perversions" is apparently fake and was cooked up as a troll effort by 4chan:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...e-russian-hack