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Old 26-03-2020, 11:51 AM   #661
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These people will mostly have cars. No refrigeration for frozen or chilled goods, and very very limited space.
Incredibly inefficient as they'd have to do countless trips back to the source.

The childish attitude towards one another on here is staggering. Grow up and speak like an adult
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These people will mostly have cars. No refrigeration for frozen or chilled goods, and very very limited space.
Incredibly inefficient as they'd have to do countless trips back to the source.

The childish attitude towards one another on here is staggering. Grow up and speak like an adult
Yes, it may be 'incredibly inefficient' but it can be implemented nearly immediately as it's using existing resources already in place and then improved on the go as the situation develops.

Ok then, so what is your solution to improve the supermarket distribution network? You're yet to contribute any idea aside from trying to crap on others.

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It’s not far removed from the business model of Uber, though?
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Thought this site was very useful. Particularly if you've been on a flight and want to know if there have been any confirmed cases from the same flight.

https://covid-19-au.github.io/

My boss at work was contacted a couple of days ago, being advised to self-isolate as there has been a confirmed case on a flight he was on. Thing is, he was on a domestic flight from Perth to Melbourne, but the flight was actually an international flight from London to Melbourne, stopping at Perth.

He was advised by WA health to self isolate. No one from Vic has contacted him.
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Yes, it may be 'incredibly inefficient' but it can be implemented nearly immediately and then improved on the go as the situation develops.
the streets would be gridlocked within hours.

having people go to the shop is much more efficient than taking the shop to the people.

the situation at the shops, ironically, is caused by the people, not the inefficiencies of the system. selfish people have created artificial demand. Just like most other things, many people in society these days have an issue with authority. the 'stick it to the man' mentality reigns supreme. Authorities have shouted from the rooftops that supply isn't an issue and not to hoard or panic buy, yet the idiots think they know better and create the problem they are now trying to solve.

If everyone just accepted that this is a new problem for everyone, and respected the advice given by those trying to run the country, things would actually be better. Those that think the rules and advice doesn't apply to them are the ones making it difficult for everyone else.
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the streets would be gridlocked within hours.

having people go to the shop is much more efficient than taking the shop to the people.

the situation at the shops, ironically, is caused by the people, not the inefficiencies of the system. selfish people have created artificial demand. Just like most other things, many people in society these days have an issue with authority. the 'stick it to the man' mentality reigns supreme. Authorities have shouted from the rooftops that supply isn't an issue and not to hoard or panic buy, yet the idiots think they know better and create the problem they are now trying to solve.

If everyone just accepted that this is a new problem for everyone, and respected the advice given by those trying to run the country, things would actually be better. Those that think the rules and advice doesn't apply to them are the ones making it difficult for everyone else.
The only streets seeing an increase in traffic would be residential streets as drivers go door to door, the streets are quiet as it is now because people working from home or being laid off.

It's not like Safeway and Coles are going to bring arterial roads to their knees because they've got another 30 delivery vehicles cruising around their local area per store.

I'm not sure what perfect world you live in but throw humans into a situation and it turns to ****, since when has any pandemic and crisis gone smoothly?

Where is the accountability for the media turning the fear porn and hype up to 11?

I'm a master at making propaganda and misrepresentation of data, I'm very good at selling one side of a story on purpose, but I only have a reach of the people who get sucked into my purposely designed arguments and these days most people are onto my game

I don't have the eyes of the nation at my will like the media does and they do what I do except much worse.

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I'd mobilise the army, plenty of military transport vehicles sitting idle all around the country which could be operated by plenty of military personnel looking for something positive to do, they'd also have the necessary PPE.
Have an online registry where you must register your family size so people cant over order more than they need and then provide one main shop per week on a rotating roster.
Then leave things like Uber for bread/milk and other on demand essentials.

Could run the above out of distribution centres cutting processing times instead of having thousands of people go to shopping centres.

On another note, I see the SA Gov has finally decided to close schools early to allow Teachers time to prepare at home learning which suggests they wont open next term.
Makes you wonder why now all of a sudden if the CMO suggest kids at school are safe...
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Drove to Sydney international airport yesterday from Canberra and until I was actually in Sydney there was only trucks on the roads, it was kind of surreal.
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Yes, it may be 'incredibly inefficient' but it can be implemented nearly immediately as it's using existing resources already in place and then improved on the go as the situation develops.

Ok then, so what is your solution to improve the supermarket distribution network? You're yet to contribute any idea aside from trying to crap on others.
Hang on , you.never dealt with the problem of refrigeration or boot size
Thanks for at least acknowledging your idea would be incredibly inefficient
Plus in most areas they would be travelling on major roads in addition to residential streets.
The existing system is improving anyway

A bit less of the "why don't they just...." would be better.
Social media and talkback radio is riddled with it.
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I'd mobilise the army, plenty of military transport vehicles sitting idle all around the country which could be operated by plenty of military personnel looking for something positive to do, they'd also have the necessary PPE.
Have an online registry where you must register your family size so people cant over order more than they need and then provide one main shop per week on a rotating roster.
Then leave things like Uber for bread/milk and other on demand essentials.

Could run the above out of distribution centres cutting processing times instead of having thousands of people go to shopping centres.

On another note, I see the SA Gov has finally decided to close schools early to allow Teachers time to prepare at home learning which suggests they wont open next term.
Makes you wonder why now all of a sudden if the CMO suggest kids at school are safe...
Don't know if you heard ScoMo on Sunday night, but he mentioned that ADF had reached out to a company called "Agility Logistics".

Check out their website and do a bit of research. My guess is AL may be used to assist in the preparation for temporary military style-hospitals. Who knows? All a bit mysterious...
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A bit less of the "why don't they just...." would be better.
Social media and talkback radio is riddled with it.
Why, you think the mob running the show have all the answers, they're backflipping on a daily basis.
This is something we we're not prepared for, who could be, and so they are making it up as they go along and whilst that is inevitable, logical thought and discussion, some of which has been put forward by people on much smaller incomes than Scomo and his State level associates, have initially been scoffed at before announcing it as their own brilliant plan a few days later when they think no one is noticing.

This is the COVID 19 thread, you will find many different opinions in it which may or may not align with your own, if you're not happy don't open it, simples.
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Don't know if you heard ScoMo on Sunday night, but he mentioned that ADF had reached out to a company called "Agility Logistics".

Check out their website and do a bit of research. My guess is AL may be used to assist in the preparation for temporary military style-hospitals. Who knows? All a bit mysterious...
Yep, I heard all that, don't get me wrong im not having a shot at our military, im sure they'd love to be engaged right now.
Australia is in the midst of a war right now, all the modern tech wont help obliterate this one, it requires good old fashioned hand to hand combat...at 1.5m apart
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Why, you think the mob running the show have all the answers, they're backflipping on a daily basis.
This is something we we're not prepared for, who could be, and so they are making it up as they go along and whilst that is inevitable, logical thought and discussion, some of which has been put forward by people on much smaller incomes than Scomo and his State level associates, have initially been scoffed at before announcing it as their own brilliant plan a few days later when they think no one is noticing.

This is the COVID 19 thread, you will find many different opinions in it which may or may not align with your own, if you're not happy don't open it, simples.
Could you please list say 6 of these ideas you claim were scoffed at and yet later adopted including who put them forward?
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Could you please list say 6 of these ideas you claim were scoffed at and yet later adopted including who put them forward?
Lol, that old chestnut.

Its pretty obvious that you think this whole thing is a big non event, if you haven't noticed whats going on then i'd suggest its not from lack of comprehension but from ignorance.

I said a week ago that Schools would be closing early, This week I said maintaining mainstream education wouldn't be feasible, I said modified programs would be required, all the while Scomo, and Steve Marshall at my own State level said, Schools are staying open, your kids are safe, blah, blah, blah.
Well, Victoria closed early, NSW got into a back and forth with Scomo with the head of the NSW Education board coming out yesterday and said to cancel mainstream education, Marshall has backflipped and is closing early and if you read enough articles on it, chances are they wont be reopening in the same fashion as they are now, they'll be acting as Out of School Hours carers, exactly what I said would happen.
Why do I know this would happen, because I was at that coal face, listening to parents and Educators and came to a logical answer based on what I heard and what I felt as a parent should happen, all the while people like yourself telling us not to rely on Govco to make decisions for us...hello, no one was asking Govco to make the decision for us, we we're all well aware of how it should unfold, unfortunately it took them a while to catch on, all the while suggesting that super spreader in your household hang out with another 30 in their classroom...

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Does every thread on this site now need to descend into a war of words on who has the right perspective?

After a couple of back and forths, accept that people have a different perspective to you and be adult enough to ignore it, let them have their say and move on. It takes a bit of effort the first few times, but it soon becomes second nature.

I tend to avoid those threads that dissolve into a tug of war. Problem is there are very few decent threads left now
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After a couple of back and forths, accept that people have a different perspective to you and be adult enough to ignore it, let them have their say and move on. It takes a bit of effort the first few times, but it soon becomes second nature.

I tend to avoid those threads that dissolve into a tug of war. Problem is there are very few decent threads left now
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I blame Faceache for a significant portion of that degeneracy. It definitely plays on the worst in people. Then - as for the transmission of nearly any viral sickness - rapidly infects platforms like this.
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Does every thread on this site now need to descend into a war of words on who has the right perspective?

After a couple of back and forths, accept that people have a different perspective to you and be adult enough to ignore it, let them have their say and move on. It takes a bit of effort the first few times, but it soon becomes second nature.

I tend to avoid those threads that dissolve into a tug of war. Problem is there are very few decent threads left now
Agreed, but to be fair my main commentary on the subject is on matters which I have first hand knowledge of, I'm not taking people to task for kicks.
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There is a strong political element to all of this which brings out the strong opinions amongst chatters. I see it happening a lot on facebook about "what I think should happen" and "what they should be doing" etc.
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Some people see the govt as reacting to public outcry or being late to the party. I see it different. It's a constantly changing situation and the govt is trying to keep the country running for as long as possible. They have said from the start the policies will be constantly changing as the situation changes. Just because you or I think something different doesn't make it right or wrong. We just can't see as big a picture as what the govt can see. I do not have access to the data the govt does.
I'll just keep my head down for the foreseeable future, do the right thing by the authorities and hopefully come out the other side with a healthy family and a job.

I feel for those in situations where this is not the case.
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Fair enough. Learn not to respond to your protagonists. They'll eventually give up, you won't have to continually defend your position, and we'll all benefit as a result.

BTW, the same advice goes to your protagonists. I want to be clear that I'm not just singling you out, BENT_8.

I've had my say. That will be the last on the matter from me. I'm moving on to other things now.

Confirmed that a 3rd has passed away in Vic from COVID-19. Not good.
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5 as long as it goes for less than 30 mins, if someone at the wedding dies then another 5 can attend, no 6 actually as I don't think the dead person would be included in the funeral count.
Keep in mind that each person including the deceased needs their of 4m² of social distancing space which would mean the food court would need to be at least 44m².
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Does every thread on this site now need to descend into a war of words on who has the right perspective?

After a couple of back and forths, accept that people have a different perspective to you and be adult enough to ignore it, let them have their say and move on. It takes a bit of effort the first few times, but it soon becomes second nature.

I tend to avoid those threads that dissolve into a tug of war. Problem is there are very few decent threads left now
To be fair, the tread it getting near to the pointy end of proceedings.

You know, that point where many people told you this would happen and many other people argued that it wouldn't happen...

Once this acceptance milestone is achieved we can then move on and figure out how to restart Australia. If anything this tread succinctly resembles the ramblings of old mate ScoMo.
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