New Ranger teaser vidz

[jpd80]

Maybe if they wait long enough, all the petrol Ranger Raptors can be built in America

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I'll have mine with 195/70R14C tyres please

You know the ones that look like this on your 40 year old 6x4 trailer:

image

Look out for me on the December 2023 DCOA compilation where I'll be upside down on the nearest roundabout.

Seriously though I think its a bit of a compromise between load carrying capacity, rear leaf spring suspension, unloaded ute and road manners on the Thailand specials which creates some problems, thats why you see them backwards in roundabouts every month on DCOA compilations and not at high speeds either.

Maybe one day someone will make a half decent HT 4x4 tyre, like the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 for heavier vehicles that can help sort out some sketchy handling characteristics of Thailand Specials.

Your reply is to one about Ranger Raptor, that has coil springs ( not leaf springs ).

[FPV8U]

Originally Posted by nibble

Dropped into local dealer today to see how long the wait is for a Raptor. If I order today, expected arrival April 2023


They expect to get their dealer/demo Rangers in July. Customers in August.

I’ll be off to speak to my local dealer about a V6 XLT/Sport later this week, Be interesting to see what the wait time is for the more mainstream models.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I'll have mine with 195/70R14C tyres please

You know the ones that look like this on your 40 year old 6x4 trailer:



Look out for me on the December 2023 DCOA compilation where I'll be upside down on the nearest roundabout.

Seriously though I think its a bit of a compromise between load carrying capacity, rear leaf spring suspension, unloaded ute and road manners on the Thailand specials which creates some problems, thats why you see them backwards in roundabouts every month on DCOA compilations and not at high speeds either.

Maybe one day someone will make a half decent HT 4x4 tyre, like the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 for heavier vehicles that can help sort out some sketchy handling characteristics of Thailand Specials.

High grip tyres are the last thing you want in a vehicle with a high centre of gravity. Raptor is fine, because of the wide tyres, wide stance and adaptive suspension, but in vehicles like the Triton with narrow track grippy tyres are a rollover waiting to happen.

If anything, they engineer the tyres to have lower grip because you want it to slide in extreme maneuvers, cause then you have the dsc to catch it and the driver has options to counter steer out. If the tyre grips hard in that situation you have no options cause it will probably roll over. It's the safer option believe it or not. Argue all you want about this, and i'm sure someone will want to, but it's what they do. It's the safer option.

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

High grip tyres are the last thing you want in a vehicle with a high centre of gravity. Raptor is fine, because of the wide tyres, wide stance and adaptive suspension, but in vehicles like the Triton with narrow track grippy tyres are a rollover waiting to happen.

If anything, they engineer the tyres to have lower grip because you want it to slide in extreme maneuvers, cause then you have the dsc to catch it and the driver has options to counter steer out. If the tyre grips hard in that situation you have no options cause it will probably roll over. It's the safer option believe it or not. Argue all you want about this, and i'm sure someone will want to, but it's what they do. It's the safer option.

Triton is a smaller ute 75mm shorter 45mm narrower wheelbase is 220mm shorter ( that's why it has best in class turning circle ) it's also 68mm lower than a ranger wildtrack according to carsguide review on 2018 models , it's lower than it is narrower so I don't see how it can have a high centre of gravity :

[DoreSlamR]

Got my price today from Range Ford in Perth. $94200 drive away, including just the premium paint option.

Probably second batch, unless enough of the first pull out, so hopefully an August/September delivery!

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by DoreSlamR

Got my price today from Range Ford in Perth. $94200 drive away, including just the premium paint option.

Probably second batch, unless enough of the first pull out, so hopefully an August/September delivery!

Geez Ford must be making only $30k profit at that price

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by PooDog

Triton is a smaller ute 75mm shorter 45mm narrower wheelbase is 220mm shorter ( that's why it has best in class turning circle ) it's also 68mm lower than a ranger wildtrack according to carsguide review on 2018 models , it's lower than it is narrower so I don't see how it can have a high centre of gravity :

I’ll just put these YouTube’s here…

Moose test at 77 kph?
Ranger best run 73 Kph
Triton in trouble at 69 kph

[XtRmn8]

Signed a purchase contract today, it's all a bit more official now.

Dealer will have 3 demos at end of May and my Ranger will arrive in June.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by jpd80

I’ll just put these YouTube’s here…

Moose test at 77 kph?
Ranger best run 73 Kph
Triton in trouble at 69 kph

All moose of the world unite and lobby for more Rangers to be sold so they can ensure their own improved chance of survival.

Your vid reminds me of the time a dealer loaned me a Mitsu Express van when I was servicing our T4 VW Transporter...omfg...it was like driving a skakeboard with cross winds making my lane changes for me...

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by jpd80

I’ll just put these YouTube’s here…

Moose test at 77 kph?
Ranger best run 73 Kph
Triton in trouble at 69 kph

any particular reason you didn't post the Hilux one?

[Livid2]

Quoted $92,500 here is Vic

What do you think the chances are of negotiating anything at all of this price? The sales guy told me on the phone that there is no chance. What are your thoughts?

[Trevor 57]

no chance, the advance bookings will tell you that

[XR Martin]

Be lucky to get free floor mats in this climate!

[simon varley]

you sure ain't getting a full tank of fuel either at the moment

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by simon varley

you sure ain't getting a full tank of fuel either at the moment

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by jpd80

I’ll just put these YouTube’s here…

Moose test at 77 kph?
Ranger best run 73 Kph
Triton in trouble at 69 kph

What does some random foreign test have to do with the physical dimensions?

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by PooDog

What does some random foreign test have to do with the physical dimensions?

it was something a Canadian (I think) mob did to test the stability of twin cab utes - nothing to do with the new Ranger as it is a totally different car

[XtRmn8]

Originally Posted by simon varley

you sure ain't getting a full tank of fuel either at the moment

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

no chance, the advance bookings will tell you that

Originally Posted by XR Martin

Be lucky to get free floor mats in this climate!

My Ranger contract is full retail list price plus standard WA on road costs with a $2500 dealer delivery - no chance of a discount, I tried.

I did manage to get rear carpet mats and a full set of moulded rubber mats included and it will come with a full tank. All up this is about $500 worth at full retail.

We purchased another new car for the wife 2 months ago and it was the same. No discount whatsoever. Managed to get about $400 worth of accessories included. 3 days after we signed up the manufacturer lifted the list price by $1050 on the specific model we ordered.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by PooDog

Triton is a smaller ute 75mm shorter 45mm narrower wheelbase is 220mm shorter ( that's why it has best in class turning circle ) it's also 68mm lower than a ranger wildtrack according to carsguide review on 2018 models , it's lower than it is narrower so I don't see how it can have a high centre of gravity :

Serious?

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Serious?

Na just kidding

[Big_Daz]

Any Queenslanders got a D/a price on a V6D Wiltrack with Premium Pack and Paint? My dealer is giving me the run around, but has verbally said that "due to demand" I am looking at low $80k's D/a. Surely they are taking the p*&& at that sort of price? I'm the 4th person in line at this dealer so in the initial allocation for delivery...

I was expecting in the $75 - 78k range for my spec.. Another $4/5k seems like price gouging....

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Big_Daz

Any Queenslanders got a D/a price on a V6D Wiltrack with Premium Pack and Paint? My dealer is giving me the run around, but has verbally said that "due to demand" I am looking at low $80k's D/a. Surely they are taking the p*&& at that sort of price? I'm the 4th person in line at this dealer so in the initial allocation for delivery...

I was expecting in the $75 - 78k range for my spec.. Another $4/5k seems like price gouging....

Seems very smelly.
Wildtrack : $70,190 (list)
Premium pack: $1,500
Paint: $675
ORC: say $3,500
Total: $75,865
+ dealer delivery cost (ddc)

If they are quoting low $80k's, there's no way I'd be paying another say $5000 to $7000 which can only be charged as a dealer delivery fee, I'd let the other suckers go first....

As mentioned above I can understand no discounting initially and say $2,500 ddc, so as you said around $78k d/a seems fair.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

any particular reason you didn't post the Hilux one?

Mainly answering the centre of gravity discussion Triton vs Ranger but also
I wasn’t sure that I could post three videos but yeah, Hilux was downright embarrassing….

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Seems very smelly.
Wildtrack : $70,190 (list)
Premium pack: $1,500
Paint: $675
ORC: say $3,500
Total: $75,865
+ dealer delivery cost (ddc)

If they are quoting low $80k's, there's no way I'd be paying another say $5000 to $7000 which can only be charged as a dealer delivery fee, I'd let the other suckers go first....

As mentioned above I can understand no discounting initially and say $2,500 ddc, so as you said around $78k d/a seems fair.

We’re going like America where dealers smell money, desirable Fords in restricted supply,
it’s becoming pay our price or ten others next in line will.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by PooDog

What does some random foreign test have to do with the physical dimensions?

You also said “I don’t see how it could have a higher centre of gravity”
That random test in another country showed the difference exactly……

At first I couldn’t believe the difference myself but that extra track width can make
a huge difference when swerving and let’s not kid ourselves, a lot of those SUVs are
pretty ordinary performers in an emergency.

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by jpd80

You also said “I don’t see how it could have a higher centre of gravity”
That random test in another country showed the difference exactly……

At first I couldn’t believe the difference myself but that extra track width can make
a huge difference when swerving and let’s not kid ourselves, a lot of those SUVs are
pretty ordinary performers in an emergency.

I think you should be saying ALL SUV,s are pretty ordinary in the handling department

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

I think you should be saying ALL SUV,s are pretty ordinary in the handling department

EXCEPT the Territory...anyone old enough to remember the mag test where they stated it out handled a base Commodore of the time.....and yes I know you can't buy one...and frankly I think I'm going to keep mine and store it when the wife decides which EV to finally buy one day...

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Mainly answering the centre of gravity discussion Triton vs Ranger but also
I wasn’t sure that I could post three videos but yeah, Hilux was downright embarrassing….

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

I think you should be saying ALL SUV,s are pretty ordinary in the handling department

As Dr Smith said, Territory was pretty good but I remember X5 with those big tyres
stuck like glue, saw one swerving about, very impressive..

OK let’s have a laugh…..