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Old 17-11-2020, 03:03 PM   #7681
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Just got my results back from SA Pathology and although i feel as crook as a dog im happy to report that they say im negative for Covid which i must say considering the co-morbidities I and those i've been in contact with have, it is a relief.

Can you tell me what time you were tested and how long it was before you got the result please BENT?


Were you notified of result with a phonecall, email or an SMS?
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I find it interesting he is hesitating after all the **** we have gone through the last few months
Probably wants to show confidence in the new containment and contract tracing system. Rolling the dice? No secret I've been a big fan of the response thus far, but if we get an uncontrolled outbreak here and have to go back into some sort of lock down..........Mr 71% will become Mr 2%.
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Old 17-11-2020, 05:11 PM   #7683
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There is no confusion. It's just how they decided to do it. There is no universal agreement or protocol.
Yes there is, I put the link to the WHO guidelines in my post.

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Its funny, countries spent hundreds of millions of dollars each year setting up a world body so that we can deal with these kinds of scenarios with some sort of global coordination. So what happens when the event actually occurs? They all run off doing their own thing. Madness.
The article you posted incorrectly claimed:
"There is no yardstick endorsed by the World Health Organization".

Yes there are guidelines, see above so the question is, why is Britain not following WHO guidelines?

I would suggest the reason is politics and not confusion or madness.
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Yes there is, I put the link to the WHO guidelines in my post.

https://www.who.int/classifications/...ID-19.pdf?ua=1

The article you posted incorrectly claimed:
"There is no yardstick endorsed by the World Health Organization".

Yes there are guidelines, see above so the question is, why is Britain not following WHO guidelines?

I would suggest the reason is politics and not confusion or madness.
Ah sorry I missed the bit in the BBC article about WHO. Yes, the way the US and UK are counting smells a bit funny. We don't hear much about how Europe is doing it....but then again I haven't gone looking.
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Yes there is, I put the link to the WHO guidelines in my post.

https://www.who.int/classifications/...ID-19.pdf?ua=1

The article you posted incorrectly claimed:
"There is no yardstick endorsed by the World Health Organization".

Yes there are guidelines, see above so the question is, why is Britain not following WHO guidelines?

I would suggest the reason is politics and not confusion or madness.
The WHO is very much run by China, retrace the steps from the beginning of the bug..
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The WHO is very much run by China, retrace the steps from the beginning of the bug..
Conspiracy, collusion or stuff up?

There is no doubt the WHO did not cover themselves in glory at the start of this pandemic.

The world needs a body like the WHO for many good reasons; it should not be overly influenced by one country or another.

With the change at the White House the incoming administration should see the WHO head back to the middle ground.
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Conspiracy, collusion or stuff up?

There is no doubt the WHO did not cover themselves in glory at the start of this pandemic.

The world needs a body like the WHO for many good reasons; it should not be overly influenced by one country or another.

With the change at the White House the incoming administration should see the WHO head back to the middle ground.
I wonder how effective they can be. We have seen how vicious China is if they believe you are insulting them, unfortunately I believe WHO is too “diplomatic” with them to be effective.
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Conspiracy, collusion or stuff up?

There is no doubt the WHO did not cover themselves in glory at the start of this pandemic.

The world needs a body like the WHO for many good reasons; it should not be overly influenced by one country or another.

With the change at the White House the incoming administration should see the WHO head back to the middle ground.
They were largely discredited by the orange lunatic who ran around saying CV was a hoax, injecting bleach was worth investigating, and now 2020 election is rigged. WHO made mistakes, everyone did, but if you think one man in a multi national organisation can be coerced and single handedly cover up a pandemic, then good luck

Helen Clark's report will be an interesting read.
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Old 17-11-2020, 06:32 PM   #7689
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Can you tell me what time you were tested and how long it was before you got the result please BENT?


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Yep, arrived at the testing clinic at around 8.30am yesterday, waited best part of 3.5hrs, received response via sms at 9.30am today
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No secret I've been a big fan of the response thus far, but if we get an uncontrolled outbreak here and have to go back into some sort of lock down..........Mr 71% will become Mr 2%.

Michael O'Brien and his goons could be reading. Don't give them evil ideas!
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I think its time for the Federal Government to take over the process properly and stop allowing state hotel quarantine.
It clearly is open to problems with people not doing the right thing or stuffing up.
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We also cant live in a country where the bloody borders are locked down for 20-30 cases...

I appreciate the first lockdown, VIC was bad for the second, but we have a better understanding now and we need to adapt
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We also cant live in a country where the bloody borders are locked down for 20-30 cases...

I appreciate the first lockdown, VIC was bad for the second, but we have a better understanding now and we need to adapt
Next on the list is a drawbridge and portcullis at the borders
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Anyone know what the likelihood of false negatives is with this covid testing?
I ask the question as im starting to think they may have got mine wrong, fever, burning sore throat, increasingly worse cough, headache, lack of energy and now i discover i had dinner right next door to a known possible transmission spot only 2hrs after they have advised an infected person was present. Its not unlikely that someone had been to both places in that time frame as the hotspot was a service station.
It was reported a couple of months ago that it can take being infected up to 6 days for testing to find it.
I just find it hard to believe that i feel like this on the same weekend we have an outbreak with a known transmission spot 50m from where i was hours later and its not related.
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It’s probably hysterical illness, worth reading up on.
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Anyone know what the likelihood of false negatives is with this covid testing?
I ask the question as im starting to think they may have got mine wrong, fever, burning sore throat, increasingly worse cough, headache, lack of energy and now i discover i had dinner right next door to a known possible transmission spot only 2hrs after they have advised an infected person was present. Its not unlikely that someone had been to both places in that time frame as the hotspot was a service station.
It was reported a couple of months ago that it can take being infected up to 6 days for testing to find it.
I just find it hard to believe that i feel like this on the same weekend we have an outbreak with a known transmission spot 50m from where i was hours later and its not related.
Get another test for peace of mind?
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You guys nailed it, im probably just being hystetical but i might get a second opinion...on both
Second opinions are underrated, my best mate is a staunch believer in it, he always gets a second opinion, particularly after a Prostate exam, infact medicare once asked him to accept the result once he had 4 or 5 opinions or he'd send them broke...
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Yep, arrived at the testing clinic at around 8.30am yesterday, waited best part of 3.5hrs, received response via sms at 9.30am today

Thank you
Hope ya feeling better today



EDIT - I should have read the whole page

We have kids and other relos that live in northern burbs, we are very worried for them.


Go get re-tested.

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I’ll bet he wasn’t that keen on second opinions for colonoscopy!
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I’ll bet he wasn’t that keen on second opinions for colonoscopy!
Im not so sure, i was sitting in the waiting room on one of his second opinions and im sure i heard him say 'deeper"..
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EDIT - I should gave read the whole page

We have kids and other relos that live in northern burbs, we are very worried for them.


Go get re-tested.
Im hearing ya, problem is i dont think i could stand in a line for the 10hrs they're suggesting testing has blown out to in 34* heat the way im feeling.
My eldest Daughter sat in a drive thru testing station for over 5hrs on Monday.
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Im hearing ya, problem is i dont think i could stand in a line for the 10hrs they're suggesting testing has blown out to in 34* heat the way im feeling.
My eldest Daughter sat in a drive thru testing station for over 5hrs on Monday.

I get that.
Last thing you want to be doing when feeling like that.
Maybe consider a locum doc?
Feeling for ya...
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It clearly is open to problems with people not doing the right thing or stuffing up.
Really?

Nurses and doctors have managed to get it even wearing full ppe kit. It's just one of those things that you can't protect against 100%.
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It's very common. It's why people in quarantine get tested again on day 12.
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It's very common. It's why people in quarantine get tested again on day 12.
Saw a story of one person who was tested 4 times at different locations, and 2 tests were positive, and 2 were negative. I think that was in the USA though.

But false negatives are fairly common. Probably depends on what stage you are at in terms of when you caught it too.
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Im hearing ya, problem is i dont think i could stand in a line for the 10hrs they're suggesting testing has blown out to in 34* heat the way im feeling.
My eldest Daughter sat in a drive thru testing station for over 5hrs on Monday.
What I see on TV was a line up of people all standing close to each other going in to be tested. what a breeding ground for the spread.

Who is up for the Vacc Jab when it comes out, sounds like total BS to me. there is in no proof that you will be protected at all from covid.

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Anyone know what the likelihood of false negatives is with this covid testing?
I ask the question as im starting to think they may have got mine wrong, fever, burning sore throat, increasingly worse cough, headache, lack of energy and now i discover i had dinner right next door to a known possible transmission spot only 2hrs after they have advised an infected person was present. Its not unlikely that someone had been to both places in that time frame as the hotspot was a service station.
It was reported a couple of months ago that it can take being infected up to 6 days for testing to find it.
I just find it hard to believe that i feel like this on the same weekend we have an outbreak with a known transmission spot 50m from where i was hours later and its not related.
Given your (and your families) circumstances, would it be worthwhile going into self-isolation, Bent? I know that's a painful process, but it certainly seems like you have all the symptoms, and the risks associated with you having it are pretty high, by the sounds of it.

Your only other choice is to get tested again, but that also exposes other people and potentially spreads it further whilst doing so, especially at one of the mobile testing sites which seem well patronised atm.
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Didn't the inventor of the pcr test say its not the appropriate test for CV19?

So much fake news being thrown around these days it's hard to know what to believe.
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