US Elections - Boring or Important to Aust?

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by ford man xf

And yet none of these celebrities have put their money where their mouth is, if they are so concerned with America and the issues that they lecture us all about why don't they risk it all and enter politics like Donald Trump has?

I think we both know that they won't....

It sure is getting awkward to watch celebrities preaching to us all from their ivory towers...

You could say the same about our Trump supporters and why they should move to America? Obviously a lot of love for him here. Maybe they should put their money where their mouth is too.

[ford man xf]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

You could say the same about our Trump supporters and why they should move to America? Obviously a lot of love for him here. Maybe they should put their money where their mouth is too.

The Trump supporters here don't need to enter politics, they have Donald Trump.
The celebrities on the other hand are complaining about anything he does, yet have no alternative solution, they offer nothing, they could enter politics and offer solutions to these so called problems, yet they don't?

The best part I personally loved about the celebrity "uprising" against Donald Trump was the part when a number of them threatened, no, PROMISED to move to Canada if Donald Trump was elected, but why Canada? Why not Mexico? What's wrong with Mexico? Why would they move to Canada which is a majority white / anglo-saxon country, aren't these celebrities being a touch racist?

[ford71V8]

And how many have moved?

[MITCHAY]

Well if the news is right he has signed an executive order to build the wall. Catch is America will pay for it initially and Mexico will pay later if that is to be believed.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

You could say the same about our Trump supporters and why they should move to America? Obviously a lot of love for him here. Maybe they should put their money where their mouth is too.

Trump supporters never virtue signalled their intent to go anywhere, unlike the loud pharisaic proclamations of many so called celebrities...

[paule11]

Gene Simmons is always good to listen too Celebrities Should Shut Their Pie Holes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghi_nx1qH5k

[CoupeKing]

[CoupeKing]

No messing about that's for sure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWZRHuYyfOo

[Peterwl]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Well if the news is right he has signed an executive order to build the wall. Catch is America will pay for it initially and Mexico will pay later if that is to be believed.

America gives Mexico monetary aid every year !

This was around 430 Million dollars in 2013 total, of which around 50 million was cash.

Not sure of the past year, but bottom line is, the US only has to stop this aid for the next 4 years to help pay for the wall ( and renewed on ground security ).

The US gave 37 BILLION ( not million ) in foreign aid in the year 2013.

Cutting most of this out and putting that to infrastructure / Jobs / wall / etc will go a long way.

Add 8 Billion that they contribute to running the UN every year, and they are looking good. ( if Congress pulls this plug ).

If someone owes you money, why would anyone give them more ?

That is something only the previous administration would do !

[cs123]

Originally Posted by Peterwl

America gives Mexico monetary aid every year !

This was around 430 Million dollars in 2013 total, of which around 50 million was cash.

Not sure of the past year, but bottom line is, the US only has to stop this aid for the next 4 years to help pay for the wall ( and renewed on ground security ).

The US gave 37 BILLION ( not million ) in foreign aid in the year 2013.

Cutting most of this out and putting that to infrastructure / Jobs / wall / etc will go a long way.

Add 8 Billion that they contribute to running the UN every year, and they are looking good. ( if Congress pulls this plug ).

If someone owes you money, why would anyone give them more ?

That is something only the previous administration would do !

The top recipients of US Aid are
Israel (3.1B), Egypt (1.46B) and Afganistan(1.25B). Mexico is way down the list.

Should the aid to these countries be cut?

The idea of aid is to buy influence and goodwill. You remove this and you remove the goodwill and influence. The bulk of the money to Mexico is based on improving democracy. You take that away and you potentially have a country next door that has issues... and those issues are exported to you. So when the FBI may want assistance from Mexico they will potentially get told to f off.


Same with the UN. I suppose Hannity and co hate them... Just think about the work they do like peace keeping and humanitarian efforts. If this isn't done then the problem spreads into other countries.

[cs123]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELD2AwFN9Nc&t=38

[superyob]

Originally Posted by cs123

Same with the UN. I suppose Hannity and co hate them... Just think about the work they do like peace keeping and humanitarian efforts.

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[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by cs123

The top recipients of US Aid are
Israel (3.1B), Egypt (1.46B) and Afganistan(1.25B). Mexico is way down the list.

Should the aid to these countries be cut?

The idea of aid is to buy influence and goodwill. You remove this and you remove the goodwill and influence. The bulk of the money to Mexico is based on improving democracy. You take that away and you potentially have a country next door that has issues... and those issues are exported to you. So when the FBI may want assistance from Mexico they will potentially get told to f off.


Same with the UN. I suppose Hannity and co hate them... Just think about the work they do like peace keeping and humanitarian efforts. If this isn't done then the problem spreads into other countries.

I'd say most of the aid money to mexico would be for law and order against the drug cartels. I guess building the wall is his way of stopping those drugs getting smuggled across the border?

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I'd say most of the aid money to mexico would be for law and order against the drug cartels. I guess building the wall is his way of stopping those drugs getting smuggled across the border?

Perhaps he hasn't heard of boats and planes

[lgpking22]

best thing about trump is weve heard from the far left and there stupid crap for 8 years now we get to hear the stupid crap from the right for 4 years while the rest of us in the sensible center get to be ****** by both left and right.

[CJR09]

One of the better basic and simplistic ensemble of words on the matter:


http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/01...d-this-happen/


Trump! How did this happen?
Brendan O'Neill


It happened because you banned super-size sodas. And smoking in parks. And offensive ideas on campus. Because you branded people who oppose gay marriage ‘homophobic’, and people unsure about immigration ‘racist’.

Because you treated owning a gun and never having eaten quinoa as signifiers of fascism. Because you thought correcting people’s attitudes was more important than finding them jobs. Because you turned ‘white man’ from a description into an insult. Because you used slurs like ‘denier’ and ‘dangerous’ against anyone who doesn’t share your eco-pieties.

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Because you treated dissent as hate speech and criticism of Obama as extremism. Because you talked more about gender-neutral toilets than about home repossessions. Because you beatified Caitlyn Jenner. Because you policed people’s language, rubbished their parenting skills, took the **** out of their beliefs.

Because you cried when someone mocked the Koran but laughed when they mocked the Bible. Because you said criticising Islam is Islamophobia. Because you kept telling people, ‘You can’t think that, you can’t say that, you can’t do that.’

Because you turned politics from something done by and for people to something done to them, for their own good. Because you treated people like trash. And people don’t like being treated like trash. Trump happened because of you.

[marty351]

There can be no want for better words.^^^

[cs123]

I saw trumpy ranting about electoral fraud and how there were people enrolled in multiple states and they all voted for Hillary.

Seems serious.

I sure hope none of trumps siblings or close advisors were enrolled in 2 states. That would be embarrassing.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by marty351

If all this negative,false and hate inspiring media campaigns keep getting worse, the first amendment is under threat.
The liberal left cannot be allowed to incite hate crimes and or terrorism, which they are already beginning to do.

Ever watch hannity or oriley while Obama was in office.

You guys are a riot. With bad memories.

[marty351]

Oh, I remember it quite clearly.
Difference being is that Obama's lack of spine and inaction was the order of the day.
When your own Congress is working against you, just about all scrutiny has some validity.

Trump on the other hand, time will tell.

[Mercury Bullet]

Originally Posted by cs123

Ever watch hannity or oriley while Obama was in office.

You guys are a riot. With bad memories.

Bah! Fake News...

Oh wait!

[Peterwl]

My post number 639 does not need any reinforcement about far left wing ideology mental disorder, but this is too much to ignore.

get a load of this !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tYVrFDxcDY

If Hilary Clinton won, she may have appointed this maniac to some position of power.

[Peterwl]

On a balanced note.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpe-2Yi6ZuE

This is the first time I have heard the truth ( what informed people knew ) about Obama funding terrorist groups over the past 4 years.

This is being said by a sitting Democrat from Hawaii.

Tulsi Gabbard is her name and I think we will hear more of her.

She is the only "normal" Democrat I have actualy listed too in the past decade !

She speaks well, and not down to people.

If I were to take a wild punt ( like backing the Western Buldogs in July last year ), she could be a contender in the Democrat primaries in 4 years time.

[Mercury Bullet]

Originally Posted by Peterwl

On a balanced note.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpe-2Yi6ZuE

This is the first time I have heard the truth ( what informed people knew ) about Obama funding terrorist groups over the past 4 years.

This is being said by a sitting Democrat from Hawaii.

Tulsi Gabbard is her name and I think we will hear more of her.

She is the only "normal" Democrat I have actualy listed too in the past decade !

She speaks well, and not down to people.

If I were to take a wild punt ( like backing the Western Buldogs in July last year ), she could be a contender in the Democrat primaries in 4 years time.

Failed history did we?

Keep fighting the good fight though, it's entertaining.

[CoupeKing]

President Donald Trump Hannity FULL Interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgonptSjqWI

His talk on the wall/ramp made me laugh. He fries the media too. Havn't watched it all yet.

Some scumbag comedian attacked his 10 year-old son via social media again - that's 3 people now. These weak pathetic people have no limits.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

President Donald Trump Hannity FULL Interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgonptSjqWI

His talk on the wall/ramp made me laugh. He fries the media too. Havn't watched it all yet.

Some scumbag comedian attacked his 10 year-old son via social media again - that's 3 people now. These weak pathetic people have no limits.

I enjoyed it for different reasons. A train wreck interview. He looks like a fool

But the true believers will lap that up

[LTD Ute]

So what do all you Truump supporters want for Australia?

Given that you can't vote in US elections, how are you going to "progress" you views in the current Aussie political environment?

What is it you want to achieve and how?

Cheers, Will

[marty351]

Future leadership lessons for our now loony lollies.

If our pollies are to be taken seriously, take heed what's happening it the US.

Stop being frightened little bugs in an overwhelming spotlight, take charge of true democracy and show true leadership. Kow-towing to minorities gets us all nowhere.

[Adamz Ghia]

It's a beautiful thing.

Trump was elected because the average person got sick of being screamed at by the 'progressive' left and the more Trump and his supporters were attacked the more popular he got.

And now he's been elected Trump and his supporters are being screamed at even louder.

If I could be bothered I'd upload the picture of Michael Jackson eating popcorn because it really is great to watch.

Heaven forbid we try to understand why people are so disaffected with mainstream politics (they know why, but knowing is far different to understanding) and then try and take them along for the ride. No, let's try to scream and shout at them till they submit. Been working a treat so far.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

It's a beautiful thing.

Trump was elected because the average person got sick of being screamed at by the 'progressive' left and the more Trump and his supporters were attacked the more popular he got.

And now he's been elected Trump and his supporters are being screamed at even louder.

If I could be bothered I'd upload the picture of Michael Jackson eating popcorn because it really is great to watch.

Heaven forbid we try to understand why people are so disaffected with mainstream politics (they know why, but knowing is far different to understanding) and then try and take them along for the ride. No, let's try to scream and shout at them till they submit. Been working a treat so far.

Ok, that's great. What specifically about him do you like. What policies did you like and why do you like them?

I am having a lot of trouble understanding people's reason for liking his policies. He has said a lot of things and it's hard to pin people down.

You seem to hate "progressives". Which policies of theirs don't you like ?

Are you in favour of repealing the ACA (obama care)? That seems to be a big one amongst Trump supporters?