US Elections - Boring or Important to Aust?

[roddy1960]

Hasn't this topic got boring enough yet ?. Apparently not ...Trump is the new President..some like the idea , some don't...
No matter what we think one way or other or how much Turnbull sucks up to him , and he will with the usual platitudes like Theresa May just did only time will tell if Trump is good for America , and us.....

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Yes, but not as good as Putin. He hacked the election so Trump and his Goon Squad would win, and gave Hillary the popular vote, a complete triumph!

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...213-story.html

[Peterwl]

Originally Posted by cs123

Plenty to talk about.

There has been an acknowledgment from Trump that Russia interfered with the elections and investigations are still underway about it. That's not made up. It is a fact and agreed by all parties.

Investigations are underway. When there was a investigation into the way Clinton handled her emails all Trump supporters wanted her locked up. Yet a cosy relationship between Putin and Trump is OK.... and one with plenty of scandal around it.


Funny lot you Trump supporters are.

The intelligence community produced a combined document on the so call Russian hacking ( available on a PDF ).

The major section stated the "No votes were changed "

This statement I suspect was demanded by the FBI to be included.
FBI Director Comey keeps his job, CIA Director Brennan given the boot.

Just what did the nasty Russians Do ??

We are not allowed to be told, it involves national Sucurity !
Maybe all they did was post a few anti Hillary things on Youtube !
Ask the US inteligence community now weather it happened !
It is a con and a joke, only simple people believed it.

The founder and president of McAffee who said he has 40 years experience on internet communications, recently stated that security organisations who do try and brake into secured systems do not leave any fingerprints. He said if the KGB tried this, they would do it via a server in South Africa as an example, and it is impossible to trace. This interview is on Youtube.

Now this crazy lefty dogma about Russia.

Russia has not ever killed any Americans, Obama's middle Eastern partners have !

Russia is a Christian country, Obama's client states were not.

Russia does not want to make the world an Islamic Caliphate, Obama's client states did, and still do.

Russia does not arm Islamic terrorist groups, Obama and the US did.

Russia has come out of the Syrian disaster as the only good guy !

Russia has actually been the good guys in the world over the past 8 years as the US lost its once dominant credibility.

Russia is on the outer with the EU / UN / Obama because it refuses to be part of the new world ( left wing ) order !

I would much rather live is a safe Russia that just wants peace and cooperation with a Trump led USA, than in Obama's Nuclear emboldened Iran, Saudi Arabia, Libya etc.

It is a no brainer !


Un informed lot you NON Trump supporters are

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Peterwl

The intelligence community produced a combined document on the so call Russian hacking ( available on a PDF ).

The major section stated the "No votes were changed "

This statement I suspect was demanded by the FBI to be included.
FBI Director Comey keeps his job, CIA Director Brennan given the boot.

Just what did the nasty Russians Do ??

We are not allowed to be told, it involves national Sucurity !
Maybe all they did was post a few anti Hillary things on Youtube !
Ask the US inteligence community now weather it happened !
It is a con and a joke, only simple people believed it.

The founder and president of McAffee who said he has 40 years experience on internet communications, recently stated that security organisations who do try and brake into secured systems do not leave any fingerprints. He said if the KGB tried this, they would do it via a server in South Africa as an example, and it is impossible to trace. This interview is on Youtube.

Now this crazy lefty dogma about Russia.

Russia has not ever killed any Americans, Obama's middle Eastern partners have !

Russia is a Christian country, Obama's client states were not.

Russia does not want to make the world an Islamic Caliphate, Obama's client states did, and still do.

Russia does not arm Islamic terrorist groups, Obama and the US did.

Russia has come out of the Syrian disaster as the only good guy !

Russia has actually been the good guys in the world over the past 8 years as the US lost its once dominant credibility.

Russia is on the outer with the EU / UN / Obama because it refuses to be part of the new world ( left wing ) order !

I would much rather live is a safe Russia that just wants peace and cooperation with a Trump led USA, than in Obama's Nuclear emboldened Iran, Saudi Arabia, Libya etc.

It is a no brainer !


Un informed lot you NON Trump supporters are

I get it.

You're an employee in one of those Russian troll factories.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Barraxr8

I get it.

You're an employee in one of those Russian troll factories.

Mr Putin pays pretty good, you should join us ;)

[marty351]

Franco Cozzo for el-pesidente!!!!!
(aka, Dig Damo)

[Peterwl]

Originally Posted by Barraxr8

I get it.

You're an employee in one of those Russian troll factories.

No, I dont think you get it.

Facts and a little bit of clear thinking is what it takes !

And speaking of Trolls !

[cs123]

Originally Posted by Peterwl

No, I dont think you get it.

Facts and a little bit of clear thinking is what it takes !

And speaking of Trolls !

Alternate facts

[CoupeKing]

[cs123]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

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Reckon he will manage 8 years?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by cs123

Reckon he will manage 8 years?

Our employer Vladimir will make sure!

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Peterwl

No, I dont think you get it.

Facts and a little bit of clear thinking is what it takes !

And speaking of Trolls !

So are you based in St. Petersburg with the rest of the team ?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Barraxr8

So are you based in St. Petersburg with the rest of the team ?

Yeah, he is sitting next to me, the only complaints I have about St. Petersburg is I don't like the local cusine.

Thankfully our dear employer has thoughtfully located us near Maccas.

They don't have Coke though, its something called McKompot

[cs123]

Originally Posted by Peterwl

The intelligence community produced a combined document on the so call Russian hacking ( available on a PDF ).

The major section stated the "No votes were changed "

This statement I suspect was demanded by the FBI to be included.
FBI Director Comey keeps his job, CIA Director Brennan given the boot.

Just what did the nasty Russians Do ??

We are not allowed to be told, it involves national Sucurity !
Maybe all they did was post a few anti Hillary things on Youtube !
Ask the US inteligence community now weather it happened !
It is a con and a joke, only simple people believed it.

The founder and president of McAffee who said he has 40 years experience on internet communications, recently stated that security organisations who do try and brake into secured systems do not leave any fingerprints. He said if the KGB tried this, they would do it via a server in South Africa as an example, and it is impossible to trace. This interview is on Youtube.

Now this crazy lefty dogma about Russia.

Russia has not ever killed any Americans, Obama's middle Eastern partners have !

Russia is a Christian country, Obama's client states were not.

Russia does not want to make the world an Islamic Caliphate, Obama's client states did, and still do.

Russia does not arm Islamic terrorist groups, Obama and the US did.

Russia has come out of the Syrian disaster as the only good guy !

Russia has actually been the good guys in the world over the past 8 years as the US lost its once dominant credibility.

Russia is on the outer with the EU / UN / Obama because it refuses to be part of the new world ( left wing ) order !

I would much rather live is a safe Russia that just wants peace and cooperation with a Trump led USA, than in Obama's Nuclear emboldened Iran, Saudi Arabia, Libya etc.

It is a no brainer !


Un informed lot you NON Trump supporters are

You've really drunk the Kool Aid haven't you.

[cs123]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gneBUA39mnI

[Ratmick]

Originally Posted by cs123

You've really drunk the Kool Aid haven't you.

Interesting 'Find/Replace' of 'George W Bush' with 'Obama' at the very least.

I especially liked this bit:

It is a con and a joke, only simple people believed it.

...as it seemed he is right given the alternate facts given on Russia

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Yeah, he is sitting next to me, the only complaints I have about St. Petersburg is I don't like the local cusine.

Thankfully our dear employer has thoughtfully located us near Maccas.

They don't have Coke though, its something called McKompot

I've been to Saink Peterburg and they do great local Georgian cuisine there FrancoDictator - small side vege, mainly char-grilled meats, beer, vodka. Very yummy. Slightly Portuguese in style.

[Trump]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

I've been to Saink Peterburg and they do great local Georgian cuisine there FrancoDictator - small side vege, mainly char-grilled meats, beer, vodka. Very yummy. Slightly Portuguese in style.

And now you've got me salivating for a BBQ!

[cs123]

So over the weekend Trump makes good on his promise to ban muslim's from entering the USA. During the campaign he promised a total ban on all muslims. Then he revised that to muslims from countries that were terror prone and difficult to vet.

His EO invokes 9/11 as the reason for the ban. But strangely his ban doesn't include the countries where the terrorists came from.

And more strangely the ban seems to exclude countries he has business dealings with.

He's a great con man, that is for sure.

Can't wait for the justification on this one from the Trump supporters here. Should be some interesting cut'n'pastes from alt-right-wing websites coming up.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

I've been to Saink Peterburg and they do great local Georgian cuisine there FrancoDictator - small side vege, mainly char-grilled meats, beer, vodka. Very yummy. Slightly Portuguese in style.

So when are we going?

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by cs123

You've really drunk the Kool Aid haven't you.

I'm picturing either of these:

1. A huge bloke locked in a dark bed room in front of his PC with a tin foil hat.

or

2. A troll bot in a FSB 'fake news" centre sitting with hundreds of other comrades and feverishly posting on Western forums / news sites.

I wonder if he started his account here a while back, and sat dorment until he got the go ahead from his handler to start posting, or if he hacked into the real users account and started his job then.

His efforts are very entertaining and absolutely hilarious

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by cs123

So over the weekend Trump makes good on his promise to ban muslim's from entering the USA. During the campaign he promised a total ban on all muslims. Then he revised that to muslims from countries that were terror prone and difficult to vet.

His EO invokes 9/11 as the reason for the ban. But strangely his ban doesn't include the countries where the terrorists came from.

And more strangely the ban seems to exclude countries he has business dealings with.

He's a great con man, that is for sure.

Can't wait for the justification on this one from the Trump supporters here. Should be some interesting cut'n'pastes from alt-right-wing websites coming up.

Probably something to do with the relationship the USA and Saudi Arabia has, the USA buys oil, the Saudis appear to be operating US Military equipment and in return the USA lets the Saudis run their messed up backwards society.

Its like my relationship with my landlord, I'd love to break his nose and pull his teeth out with my pliers but he is a good customer of mine too so I look the other way.

[CoupeKing]

He should just get his signature on a stamp, be a lot easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg5ny5rrtPI

Only 8 days in, imagine 8 weeks!

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

So when are we going?

Been in 2013 baby! Snooze n' you loose

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by ford man xf

Didn't Barack Obama state several times that you can't rig the US elections? In fact he said it was impossible to rig the US elections, this of course was before Donald Trump won the election, so now all of a sudden the US elections can be rigged, anything to suit the narrative I guess.

Yes he did!

[cs123]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Yes he did!

There are two different discussions about this.

1: Can the results be rigged by manipulating the machines to register different tallies and can the results be intercepted and altered when transmitted to the central office for tallying.

2: Did the Russians interfere (not rig) the narrative of the election. Did they co-ordinate their efforts with Trump's team.

There is no evidence to suggest that 1 happened. There is evidence to suggest that 2 happened, at least in part with the Russians supplying wikileaks with damaging information that Trump used in his campaign.

Point 2 is agreed to even by Trump, that the Russians were active in the election process. He claims it made no difference. It is still being investigated. The end result is sanctions and people being expelled by the USA which had bilateral support from both the Democrats and Republicans.

What isn't know and is murky is whether Trump's team co-ordinated their efforts with Russia. There are accusations that this has happened. We will have to wait and see what is proven.

The other point is voter fraud as claimed by Trump where millions of votes were cast fraudulently by supporters of Hillary.

He claims
1: People appear on more than 1 state's roll.
2: Dead people are enrolled to vote
3: Illegals voted.

Points 1 and 2 happen and are not against the law. Trump's own children are enrolled in 2 states. He seemed to forget this and it's somewhat embarrassing that he has accused his own children of fraud.

Point 3 is not proven. Nobody apart from Trump believes there was voter fraud.

Hope that clears it up for you

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by cs123

There is evidence to suggest that 2 happened, at least in part with the Russians supplying wikileaks with damaging information that Trump used in his campaign.



Hope that clears it up for you

There's a difference between 'hacking' and 'leaked'. Julian Assange has said on numerous occasions that the Russians had nothing to do with her emails - I tend to believe him simply because of all the data he has provided thus far has been proven to be 100% authentic.

He might even have some mud on Trump )

[cs123]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

There's a difference between 'hacking' and 'leaked'. Julian Assange has said on numerous occasions that the Russians had nothing to do with her emails - I tend to believe him simply because of all the data he has provided thus far has been proven to be 100% authentic.

He might even have some mud on Trump )

They have proof the persons involved were associated with the Russians.

Assange can't be believed.

Trump admits the Russians were involved. Why can't you accept it as well

[cs123]

And a little bit more on this Russian influence.

It was suggested that part of the aim of this "influence" was to turn Bernie Sanders supports off voting at all. I heard a lot of discussion about this prior to the election where Sanders supporters were in a lather about Clinton and said the would abstain from voting rather than vote for Clinton.

It appears that this tactic was pretty successful and if true is ironic that Sanders fan boys played a (passive) part in electing Trump

[nstg8a]

I like how the Hillary supporters were quick to blame Russia for the leaked emails etc, but not once did they actually deny the contents were true.

So really, all Russia did (allegedly) was tell the American voters what was really going on.