New Ranger teaser vidz

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

https://www.drive.com.au/news/electr...teased-by-ceo/

Farley's comments about another EV pick up due in 2025 pretty much give it away.

Be careful, when Farley made those comments he was at the current Lightning launch and talking about
another pickup that Ford was going to make at Tennessee, he was talking about TE1 Lightning but did not
correct the ambiguity, it was deliberate…and the press ran with it.

Mind you, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Lincoln LT makes a reappearance,
Clint Eastwood drove one in The Mule…

[mattrobbo26]

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

For the 3.0? It should be better than you think.. 600NM through a 10 speed will have it barely revving.

I couldn't find an exact figure but I believe the F150 gets between 22 - 25MPG which is around 10L/100. some claim 30MPG

so expect better than that

He was asking about the Raptor tank size. So the 3.0tt petrol. Any figures from American vehicles running that engine?

[mattrobbo26]

Answered my own question. The Explorer ST which weighs in 500-600kg lighter than the Ranger Raptor gets between 18-25mpg so 9.4-13 L/100. I'd probably expect the Ranger Raptor to start at 13 L/100.

[BENT_8]

Might be a bit more of a wait for you guys on the list.

With PX3 stock almost non existent as we've been told by our industry insiders, this will hurt the monthly figures in the short term you'd have to think.

https://www.drive.com.au/news/new-ford-ranger-delayed/

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by mattrobbo26

Answered my own question. The Explorer ST which weighs in 500-600kg lighter than the Ranger Raptor gets between 18-25mpg so 9.4-13 L/100. I'd probably expect the Ranger Raptor to start at 13 L/100.

Or you could compare to 4x4 Expedition with 3.5 EB, similar weight to RR and gets 17-22mpg
10l/100km and 14.5 l/100/km

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by mattrobbo26

He was asking about the Raptor tank size. So the 3.0tt petrol. Any figures from American vehicles running that engine?

I read it as being concerned over an 80L tank size.

I'm going to guess the consumption of the diesel to be 9L/100 which should give a range of 890kms plenty enough IMO

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Or you could compare to 4x4 Expedition with 3.5 EB, similar weight to RR and gets 17-22mpg
10l/100km and 14.5 l/100/km

I think it will be pretty close to the diesel maybe only a little more depending how you drive..

The Ecoboost are a cracking range of engines, built for economy but just so happen to be pretty powerful

[Big_Daz]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Might be a bit more of a wait for you guys on the list.

With PX3 stock almost non existent as we've been told by our industry insiders, this will hurt the monthly figures in the short term you'd have to think.

https://www.drive.com.au/news/new-ford-ranger-delayed/

When I signed my final contract I was told December delivery for my V6D Wiltrak at the earliest. Now I see that story who knows...

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Big_Daz

When I signed my final contract I was told December delivery for my V6D Wiltrak at the earliest. Now I see that story who knows...

Santa’s workshop is going to be very busy in Q3 & Q4….

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Big_Daz

When I signed my final contract I was told December delivery for my V6D Wiltrak at the earliest. Now I see that story who knows...

It'll be well worth the wait though.

[Big_Daz]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

It'll be well worth the wait though.

Yeah, It sure will... I nearly bought a PX3 Wildtrak but the rumour of a V6 Diesel made me hold off... Im glad I did. And in the grand scheme of things, the wait for me is no worse some some other car makers anyway (If we ordered my Wive's Sorento GT Line now, we wouldnt see it until next year, same with Rav4, Cruiser, etc) so its fine.

The main negative of the wait is that the reason for getting it, is so I can make my SSV Redline the weekender and do the remaining Performance mods that will make it fun, but not the best daily (Blower, Intake, Heads, E85) and now I have to wait until start of next year for that... lol... First world problems and all that....

[RHR]

Just looking into the specifications of the V6 diesel. I see its an evolution of the lion engine that was once found in the Territory.

Why must car makers insist of developing an engine with a timing belt.

Is there any reason why they still use a belt verses timing chains.

[RANGEREST]

Originally Posted by RHR

Just looking into the specifications of the V6 diesel. I see its an evolution of the lion engine that was once found in the Territory.

Why must car makers insist of developing an engine with a timing belt.

Is there any reason why they still use a belt verses timing chains.

https://carphrases.com/timing-belt-vs-timing-chain/

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by RHR

Just looking into the specifications of the V6 diesel. I see its an evolution of the lion engine that was once found in the Territory.

Why must car makers insist of developing an engine with a timing belt.

Is there any reason why they still use a belt verses timing chains.

Don't worry, Holden 3.6L V6 from VZ all the way through to VFII use timing chains and they need to be replaced every 5 minutes because they stretch

*Engine light on*
CMP Bank 1
RIP timing chain

Same with that Nissan 2.5L Diesel 4 cylinder they used in the D40 Navara had a love affair for stretching timing chains.

I do understand though, I too would rather an engine with a timing chain, but you know, NVH and spondoolies.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by RHR

Just looking into the specifications of the V6 diesel. I see its an evolution of the lion engine that was once found in the Territory.

Why must car makers insist of developing an engine with a timing belt.

Is there any reason why they still use a belt verses timing chains.

Some info I’ve sourced,
In F150, the schedule is at 150,000 miles /250,000 km, I hope they keep that for Ranger
Ford warranty time is 4 hours for the main belt but customer price is probably 5-7 hrs.

[rare ss]

I'd rather change a timing belt vs a chain, I've never done a V8 toyota but the 4cyl and 6 cyl diesels were a breeze

We did see some belts snap on the Hilux's when the went from 100k to 150k interval though, even when they didn't snap after 150k the timing was almost a tooth out in some cases

[prydey]

According to comments earlier in the thread the engine is based on, or same family as territory engine. Timing belt change interval in Territory is 10years or 165000km. Sure, it will set you back the best part of $2k if you take it to a dealer but it's hardly a big cost in the scheme of things.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Some info I’ve sourced,
In F150, the schedule is at 150,000 miles /250,000 km, I hope they keep that for Ranger
Ford warranty time is 4 hours for the main belt but customer price is probably 5-7 hrs.

I know these cars will still be running fine at 250,000 kms but to many that's a a vehicles lifetime.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

I know these cars will still be running fine at 250,000 kms but to many that's a a vehicles lifetime.

Exactly and the point being that most original owners will never have to worry about it anyway….
I’m always cautious about putting Ford and never have to worry about in the same sentence….

Originally Posted by prydey

According to comments earlier in the thread the engine is based on, or same family as territory engine. Timing belt change interval in Territory is 10years or 165000km. Sure, it will set you back the best part of $2k if you take it to a dealer but it's hardly a big cost in the scheme of things.

Which makes me wonder if the upgraded belt from the 3.0 Powerstroke can be fitted to earlier 2.7 Territory engines…

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by jpd80

I’m always cautious about putting Ford and never have to worry about in the same sentence….


Which makes me wonder if the upgraded belt from the 3.0 Powerstroke can be fitted to earlier 2.7 Territory engines…

Is there a belt upgrade? or is the belt in the 2.7 actually fine for higher kms?

I've searched for examples of Belt failures but could only find issues where it wasn't done correctly, and I'm almost certain there are cars been driven around without having the belt changed, there is not dash rest and its not part of the regular service so easily missed IMO.
I'm not suggesting people do this just an observation.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

Is there a belt upgrade? or is the belt in the 2.7 actually fine for higher kms?

I've searched for examples of Belt failures but could only find issues where it wasn't done correctly, and I'm almost certain there are cars been driven around without having the belt changed, there is not dash rest and its not part of the regular service so easily missed IMO.
I'm not suggesting people do this just an observation.

I realise it's a bit off topic for this thread but I've done similar research regarding belt failures, as my car is 10years old this year, and no real evidence of the belts being an issue if not done on time. I agree that there would be plenty of owners oblivious to the Ford recommendation of changing the belt.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by prydey

I realise it's a bit off topic for this thread but I've done similar research regarding belt failures, as my car is 10years old this year, and no real evidence of the belts being an issue if not done on time. I agree that there would be plenty of owners oblivious to the Ford recommendation of changing the belt.

sorry even more off topic..
I had a Belt failure years ago on a Toyota Trueno 4AGE. its stripped the teeth on startup.
new belt fitted - no other damage done. easy job

I also had a chain tensioner failure on an older Toyota 3TG engine smashed front casing bent valves oil everywhere.. awful thing to work on

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

Is there a belt upgrade? or is the belt in the 2.7 actually fine for higher kms?

I've searched for examples of Belt failures but could only find issues where it wasn't done correctly, and I'm almost certain there are cars been driven around without having the belt changed, there is not dash rest and its not part of the regular service so easily missed IMO.
I'm not suggesting people do this just an observation.

J/LR belt change was/is 100,000 km, Terry is 160,000 km, F-150 is 250,000….sounds like real world feedback.

With earlier engines, J/LR would also change the the oil pump at the same time because the timing belt tensioner mounts to the oil pump and the boss can snap when changing the belt, newer oil pumps have a changed Boss….

[JKL]

QLD dealer has confirmed XLT V6 just over $70k drive away, prestige paint, no touring pack (was told n/a) dealer delivery was $2k - not sure how it compares - August delivery!!

[RANGEREST]

Originally Posted by JKL

QLD dealer has confirmed XLT V6 just over $70k drive away, prestige paint, no touring pack (was told n/a) dealer delivery was $2k - not sure how it compares - August delivery!!

I think you'll find the touring pack is available in the XLT, just not for an August delivery.

[Gumboot]

Here is a Raptor quote in Brisbane that was posted on the whirlpool forum yesterday by a user.

Vehicle Price $77718.18
Colour/Trim as applicable No Charge
Other Costs & Charges
Registration Fee $630.00
Compulsory Third Party $401.60
Dealer Delivery $2722.72
FORD 5YR/UNLIMITED KM WTY No Charge
Stamp Duty (Calculated on 85,500.00) $2992.50
GST $8044.09
TOTAL Purchase Amount $92509.09

[Polyal]

$92k for a Ford ute that is RHD factory....impressive.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Gumboot

Here is a Raptor quote in Brisbane that was posted on the whirlpool forum yesterday by a user.

Vehicle Price $77718.18
Colour/Trim as applicable No Charge
Other Costs & Charges
Registration Fee $630.00
Compulsory Third Party $401.60
Dealer Delivery $2722.72
FORD 5YR/UNLIMITED KM WTY No Charge
Stamp Duty (Calculated on 85,500.00) $2992.50
GST $8044.09
TOTAL Purchase Amount $92509.09

Ok Rego I assume no profit made there? looks like its cheaper than VIC anyway
I would cancel the compulsory 3rd party and organize your own insurance, and request no dealer delivery - all they do is wash it and bolt the plates on.

looks like they calculate stamp duty on that too which doesn't look right and of course GST calculated on everything

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Polyal

$92k for a Ford ute that is RHD factory....impressive.

Whats the RAM 1500 Express going for these days? Used to be around $80K.

[naddis01]

Used ones that were originally sold for $80000 driveaway a few years ago are now selling for $100k plus.