FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread - Page 293

**DFB FGXR6** · 06-09-2014, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

If they dont get the money from LCT the Gov will just find some other way to tax you, so dont think for a minute if it goes everyone will suddenly have more money in their pocket...

Exactly.
If it was removed, car makers would use it as an excuse to add extra equipment, charge the same amount and pocket the extra as profit with the dealers.

stevefreestyle · 06-09-2014, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Callum31

It appears maybe the New G6E Turbo won't get the 'Turbo' badge, the 8 on the XR is red, as well as now the 6 on the XR6 Turbo is red. And on that G6E Turbo the E was red. So maybe the G6E won't have the Turbo badge, just a red E?

The 8 on the XR8 has always been red since at least the BA & probably before.

Tbm1121 · 06-09-2014, 09:54 PM

Most bmw's and merc's don't pay lct due to the low fuel economy numbers they are running, they do this to avoid paying the lct, stop start feature brings down the average for example. Like someone mentioned earlier Toyota is the biggest manufacturer to be affected and mainly by Kluger grande and 200 series. They have been patitioning for it to be abolished for years.

LeadFoot81 · 06-09-2014, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

The 8 on the XR8 has always been red since at least the BA & probably before.

The red 8 started with BA.

I like the switch to a single red number or letter announcing the fact it's a performance model.

Chucking 'Turbo' on the end of a model name is a bit '80's' if you know what I mean.

V8 Ghia Mike · 06-09-2014, 11:44 PM

Should have been G6T all along....

What does the 'E' stand for anyway?

joeyy17 · 07-09-2014, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by V8 Ghia Mike

Should have been G6T all along....

What does the 'E' stand for anyway?

Extraordinarily amazing

FGX-302 · 07-09-2014, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tbm1121

Most bmw's and merc's don't pay lct due to the low fuel economy numbers they are running, they do this to avoid paying the lct, stop start feature brings down the average for example. Like someone mentioned earlier Toyota is the biggest manufacturer to be affected and mainly by Kluger grande and 200 series. They have been patitioning for it to be abolished for years.

Mate I don't think fuel economy has much if anything to do with LCT nor do I believe BMW or MB design thier cars to work around an australian LCT.. Aus is a very competitive but tiny car market for them. Of that tiny market they make up a low single figure percentage of sales. Just my 2 cents ;-)

Sioso · 07-09-2014, 08:01 AM

If the vehicle has a combined-cycle fuel consumption figures below 7.0L/100km the LCT threshold increases from $61,884 to $75,375.

FGX-302 · 07-09-2014, 08:14 AM

didn't know that one...Good info. Shame the FGX XR8 will be a little bit thirstier than that. My thoughts are the purchase price won't be far off $61000 should just scrape under if they (ford) dare I say it are smart at marketing lol

nstg8a · 07-09-2014, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LeadFoot81

The red 8 started with BA.

I like the switch to a single red number or letter announcing the fact it's a performance model.

Chucking 'Turbo' on the end of a model name is a bit '80's' if you know what I mean.

I remember when the xr badge was enough to signify a performance version...

stevefreestyle · 07-09-2014, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by FGX S/C V8

didn't know that one...Good info. Shame the FGX XR8 will be a little bit thirstier than that. My thoughts are the purchase price won't be far off $61000 should just scrape under if they (ford) dare I say it are smart at marketing lol

The new XR8 should be a lot (at least $8K -10K) cheaper than the last GT 335 - which was $65K INCLUDING On-Road costs / Drive Away.

stevefreestyle · 07-09-2014, 10:40 AM

Forgot to mention, the $65,000 Drive-Away Price on the last GT 335s also included full Leather Interior & Sat Nav.

FGX-302 · 07-09-2014, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

The new XR8 should be a lot (at least $8K -10K) cheaper than the last GT 335 - which was $65K INCLUDING On-Road costs / Drive Away.

That was only for 2 months or so wasn't it when they slashed 10k to get rid of them.. Normal GT price was mid 70's for the life of the GT i thought. Anything under 60k for the XR8 will be awesome value for money. Be a lot of motor car for 60k.

martinijosh · 07-09-2014, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by V8 Ghia Mike

Should have been G6T all along....

What does the 'E' stand for anyway?

Executive...

**Professor Farnsworth** · 07-09-2014, 12:47 PM

Well, ya know. Hopefully Ford will release some sort of specs on the new range before they close up in 2016.

stevefreestyle · 07-09-2014, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FGX S/C V8

That was only for 2 months or so wasn't it when they slashed 10k to get rid of them.. Normal GT price was mid 70's for the life of the GT i thought. Anything under 60k for the XR8 will be awesome value for money. Be a lot of motor car for 60k.

The XR8 was usually over $20K cheaper than the FPV GT (the last one was $49,995 + On Roads in 2010), and the last GTs were $65K Drive-Away (under $59 K plus On road costs) partly at least because FPV were no longer a 51% shareholding entity - charging $15K-$20K per Car on top.

LeadFoot81 · 07-09-2014, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by martinijosh

Executive...

I thought it stood for Euro. Could've sworn I read that in an article.

LeadFoot81 · 07-09-2014, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

I remember when the xr badge was enough to signify a performance version...

F@#$%& aye mate!

Sta Arhidia Mou · 07-09-2014, 04:38 PM

Somebody posted this bit of info on LS1 forums...

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Id just like to kick in some info for the new XR8 ford will offer a intercooled package as part of the FPV Enhancement package.. will cost around 10k but that will get you intercooler /brembo brakes/fpv bucket seats and push button start and Rspec suspension.

your welcome.. i look forward to the very best power wars for the end of the local production car battles.

XR8putts · 07-09-2014, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sta Arhidia Mou

Somebody posted this bit of info on LS1 forums...

If the intecooled variant ever makes an appearance, expect it in 2016 with a GTHO badge.

FPV414 · 07-09-2014, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LeadFoot81

I thought it stood for Euro. Could've sworn I read that in an article.

Yeah it's Euro. I worked at Ford when the FG came out and the model orientation package stated it stood for Euro.

nstg8a · 07-09-2014, 06:04 PM

I think they're forgetting fpv no longer exists...

Bossxr8 · 07-09-2014, 10:52 PM

Complete an utter rubbish. Typical LS1 member, no brains.

**PepeLePew** · 07-09-2014, 10:58 PM

Chinese Whispers, to me, show what a great job, unusually, Ford are doing at feeding the launch out on this car..

It'd be a bit harsh if it HAD of been true...if they'd have offering the I/C option on XR8 and hadn't built it into GT-F.

FGX-351 · 07-09-2014, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LeadFoot81

I thought it stood for Euro. Could've sworn I read that in an article.

Yeah G6E = Ghia Six Euro.

AGS302 · 08-09-2014, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

The new XR8 should be a lot (at least $8K -10K) cheaper than the last GT 335 - which was $65K INCLUDING On-Road costs / Drive Away.

MY 5.4 GS was $60000 + ORC with ZF, Leather, Reverse Camera + Sensors and matts back in 2009. The GT's at the time were $69990+ ORC with cloth trim.

I would expect the FGX XR8 to be the same price as the GS which was $57000 + ORC with no options.

AGS302 · 08-09-2014, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sta Arhidia Mou

Somebody posted this bit of info on LS1 forums...

The exact same thing was posted in this thread by a member on here a couple of weeks ago.

**Fordman1** · 08-09-2014, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AGS302

The exact same thing was posted in this thread by a member on here a couple of weeks ago.

And it is rubbish.

stevefreestyle · 08-09-2014, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AGS302

MY 5.4 GS was $60000 + ORC with ZF, Leather, Reverse Camera + Sensors and matts back in 2009. The GT's at the time were $69990+ ORC with cloth trim.

I would expect the FGX XR8 to be the same price as the GS which was $57000 + ORC with no options.

You are comparing apples with oranges - the GS was FPV, the new XR8 is 100% FORD - with NO 51% profit share/loss with FPV.

The FG XR8 was the same price as the XR6T, although the 5.4 BOSS BA, BF & FG XR8 engines were built by FPV, an additional production cost for Ford, which is now done by Ford in-house, which would represent a significant cost saving.

With FPV completely out of the picture and Ford the sole shareholder, the new XR8 represents a completely different business scenario, and vastly more efficient business model !

NAK302 · 08-09-2014, 09:58 AM

lets wait and see before the panties get too twisted. if Ford get it wrong, there'll be a lot of stock left over.