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Old 26-01-2008, 11:24 AM   #61
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Bob Lutz has said it will be a technological showcase, so it won't be a Torana, GTS-R or Crewman. Might be something similar to Toyota's Sportivo concept of a few years ago, a futuristic look forward. Probably running a hybrid powertrain.

So they are taking the old hybrid VT out of the back shed and throwing the VE body around it?
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Old 26-01-2008, 12:29 PM   #62
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So they are taking the old hybrid VT out of the back shed and throwing the VE body around it?
Probably
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Old 26-01-2008, 02:28 PM   #63
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Ford need to get cracking... seriously.

Start taking stabs at Holden through advertising i.e: I have seen in an FPV ad on YouTube... the narrator says,"You'll just want one." Nice & Subtle.

Ford need to release some concepts. GT Coupe? V8 Terri? Turbo'd/Supercharged V8?

For far to long, Holden have flexxed their muscles with this concept and that concept... some being put into production, some not... Ford NEED to do the same.

If Ford had planned it so they realease the Orion along with a concept V8 Terri, GT Coupe and maybe something along the lines of V8 Fairmont Coupe... this would show some power, some "we still got it".

Maybe we could be lucky, maybe Ford are being quiet for a reason... I wish... I truely wish that at the MMS that Ford shock and surprise us with a few new toys.

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Old 26-01-2008, 03:55 PM   #64
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Ultimate Ford Show car.

Base: Orion Falcon
Motor/Drivetrain: Twinforce (Twinturbo) V6 with GDi, (suppose a V8 could be used but...) and modified territory AWD
Body: Coupe, with Carbon Fiber Gaurds (wider for wheels and AWD) bonnet and bumper, Aluminum roof and boot. Small Cobra lip spoiler and bodykit based on V8 supercar. Cobra stripes etc.

...sumthin' like that.
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Old 26-01-2008, 05:19 PM   #65
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ve serie's 2 diesel hybread.
and the torrie tt36, 280kw petrol is allready in production.
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Old 26-01-2008, 05:45 PM   #66
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Ultimate Ford Show car.

Base: Orion Falcon
Motor/Drivetrain: Twinforce (Twinturbo) V6 with GDi, (suppose a V8 could be used but...) and modified territory AWD
Body: Coupe, with Carbon Fiber Gaurds (wider for wheels and AWD) bonnet and bumper, Aluminum roof and boot. Small Cobra lip spoiler and bodykit based on V8 supercar. Cobra stripes etc.

...sumthin' like that.
How desirable!
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Old 27-01-2008, 03:23 PM   #67
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Brock inspired Torana, with lots of techno gadgets
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Old 27-01-2008, 04:38 PM   #68
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Ford need to showcase technology (new V6) inside the Orion, show people what will be coming and hold faith that the Falcon may become a decent car again.
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Old 27-01-2008, 04:41 PM   #69
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Hybrid Torana concept is my guess.
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Old 27-01-2008, 06:15 PM   #70
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a v8 without pushrods?? wouldnt be the camaro because that wouldnt be a 'concept' now would it, same goes for the torana.

ford need to wake up and start making concpets too
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Old 27-01-2008, 07:17 PM   #71
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Anyone remember the HSV L8 I mentioned a while back... I reckon something along those lines...
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Old 27-01-2008, 07:20 PM   #72
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What about a retro style A9X !!,Stranger things have happened!.
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Old 28-01-2008, 10:58 AM   #73
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Ford need to showcase technology (new V6) inside the Orion, show people what will be coming and hold faith that the Falcon may become a decent car again.
So they would want people to wait another 2 and a half years to buy one, instead of this year. Thats real clever. :
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Old 28-01-2008, 11:00 AM   #74
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Ford need to get cracking... seriously.

Start taking stabs at Holden through advertising i.e: I have seen in an FPV ad on YouTube... the narrator says,"You'll just want one." Nice & Subtle.

Ford need to release some concepts. GT Coupe? V8 Terri? Turbo'd/Supercharged V8?

For far to long, Holden have flexxed their muscles with this concept and that concept... some being put into production, some not... Ford NEED to do the same.

If Ford had planned it so they realease the Orion along with a concept V8 Terri, GT Coupe and maybe something along the lines of V8 Fairmont Coupe... this would show some power, some "we still got it".

Maybe we could be lucky, maybe Ford are being quiet for a reason... I wish... I truely wish that at the MMS that Ford shock and surprise us with a few new toys.

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In the past this could work, but Holden are no longer Fords main opposition, they need to make sales from people who would otherwise buy small and medium cars and SUV's, not just from people who would buy Commodores. The days when the Falcon and Commodore dominated the market are over.
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Old 28-01-2008, 04:00 PM   #75
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Im a little confused as to what Lutzy is talking about. But remember; Holden will try ANYTHING to take some spotlight.

Torana - done I thought, how different could they possibly make a concept that will be a production car anyway

HSV - How special will that be? We know what the front will look like and they might change the tail light..wow

Camaro - Done at previous shows

Im actually with Blackout on this one; I cant see it being anything else. And I am so sick of people talking about the effijy; it looks great, but thats it. What part of that car will ever be put into production?

The Orion will be the only thing worth seeing at the show. The industry needs it and Ford cant afford to screw it up. Its BA all over again and then some.
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Old 28-01-2008, 04:10 PM   #76
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i wish i could talk about the GTS but i can't.
an 8 potter that uses less fuel and more ponie's that's all i can say.(unfortunatly)
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So they would want people to wait another 2 and a half years to buy one, instead of this year. Thats real clever. :
Well, it's not like everyone doesn't know about the V6, jeez it's been in the news for a while and been documented all over the net : . If people don't know now, i guess they're not even interested. No harm in letting people know the potential of the new v6 either, it may help them when it comes time to releasing it.

In my post i forgot the i.e.
I would like Ford to show some technology in their falcons (or use it in a concept with the V6). Show us why we should buy them again, what do they have over the competition.
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Maybe a good way to gazump Holden at the MMS would be to release Orion at the Brisbane Motor Show this coming weekend - would catch Holden with their pants down and Ford would have the show all to themselves!
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Maybe a good way to gazump Holden at the MMS would be to release Orion at the Brisbane Motor Show this coming weekend - would catch Holden with their pants down and Ford would have the show all to themselves!
and that would be dumb wouldnt it?
No one cares about the brisbane motor show. they need as many people to see there car being unveiled as possible.
Holden are experts at working car shows, i cant see ford being able to beat them.
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and that would be dumb wouldnt it?
No one cares about the brisbane motor show. they need as many people to see there car being unveiled as possible.
Holden are experts at working car shows, i cant see ford being able to beat them.

Thats because nobody releases anything of high importance at BMS. However there are a lot of new models going to be at BMS including Skoda (sp).

Interestingly Mercedes is pulling out of MMS. I dare say in the future we will only have the Sydney show.
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saw an r8 VE ute today... one impressive looking machine. i can't fathom what a ve sw would look like though, would be interested.
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Old 30-01-2008, 01:41 PM   #82
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I'd expect holden to come up with a competitor to the Mondeo, but with the added street cred of being RWD. My guess is a born again Torana. It would have to include a diesel option and would show them as being progressive enough to chase the mid-size & fuel efficient car market. Of course, they would have the option of more powerful motors to chase the BMW 3-Series etc...
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Holden have been reknowned to Do Concepts that steal the Show on the day but don't actually make it to production...
Im kinda expecting more of the same and will be pleasently surprised if its not the case.
Orion will definitely have its fair share of the show, have no doubt. People have seen how great the BA is and the amount of attention it got when it was release was fantastic. Remember the XR6T when it was first released? Holden had nothing. Zip and still don't have anything force inducted in the C'dore Range...
It's going to be an interesting week at the Motor show
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i know what they are going to show but if i say i will probably lose my job.
But i will say it is a production car!
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i know what they are going to show but if i say i will probably lose my job.
But i will say it is a production car!
In your opinion, will this steal the Falcon's thunder at the MMS?
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Cadlillac's ?
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Ford upstaged again by Holden again? Ford would have to have the worst marketing team in the industry, either that, or the smallest budget to work with.
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Cadlillac's ?
I imagine by "production car" he means "to be built in Aussie"
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But i will say it is a production car!
doing a bit of printing for the mms are you?
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I dont understand the hype from holden; but thats what they are good at.

They have all but confirmed a mid sizer RWD anyway. So what they will show a more boring version of the concept. A big whatever from me.
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