BA brakes onto AU...

[genebaby]

well, they fit under 16" standard steelies.

[JC]

Originally Posted by AU2PWR

Choice Henri , Can you get a Pic of them ?

Plus a Side by Side pic of the BA ones and the AU2 ones when your doing em ...

Cheers
Daniel

Here you go (AU1 vs BA), but it's not so much the discs (there's only 10mm diff in diameter - AU1 and AU2 are same size in diameter):


But the Pads are bigger


And then there's the callipers:


It's the callipers that give the better braking performance, the extra size of the disc means a bigger pad can be used, and the benefits of using a bigger brake pad clamped by one or more additional pistons in the calliper should be obvious to all.

I don't think the difference between AU2 and BA would be all that great. AU2 to Territory would be though as the disc is at least 15mm larger diameter, so I imagine the callipers and pads are quite a bit larger too.

HLC - The BA brakes will fit under 16" rims, no worries at all.

[mattp]

Holy ****, those calipers look HUUUGE compared to the AU1's. I'm going to order my parts tomorrow, I hope JC hasn't taken the last of my wrecker's current stock :

[JC]

Originally Posted by mattp

Holy ****, those calipers look HUUUGE compared to the AU1's. I'm going to order my parts tomorrow, I hope JC hasn't taken the last of my wrecker's current stock :

And that's not trick photography - they are really that much bigger.

He said he had plenty - once again, thanks for the info Matt - I would have been spending twice what I did otherwise.

[JC]

AU2/3/BA/BF rear brakes will not fit on the rear of an AU1 without an adapter plate between the calliper and the axle housing. At the stage. it looks like a plate of around 3mm to be used as a spacer is required - without it, the face/pad mounting area on the back part of the calliper hits the disc. The good news is that the disc fits with the handbrake shoe etc, so if you used a spacer plate with an appropriately longer bolt, then it should be OK. BUT, I will stick with the AU1 rear brakes. While the BA disc is larger, and the pads look to be slightly wider, the calliper is pretty much the same, so I don't see any benefit in changing the rears, especially as a spacer is needed and I'm not 100% sure on how safe that would be.

So today, instead of fitting the rears, I painted the fronts - it took twice as much paint as required for a series one calliper! LOL.

[mattp]

Thanks for letting us know mate, I'll just grab some slotteds and new pads for the rear then, you've saved me the costs/hassle of getting the BA rears and finding out the same way you did! Cheers.

[blue terra]

Originally Posted by JC

How much?

The brisbane buyg's prices match the ones available at my local wrecker (or very close), but he has the stock and my local wrecker hardly does any AUs yet, so the answer for me was simple really. Freight was always going to be a cost, so it doesn't matter to me if it's Melb or Brissie - whoever can deliver for the better price gets my business, and Aussie Car Recyclers were great both for price, and service.

I think with all the conversion parts to do it's going to be around the $1000 mark. I didnt want hassles of doing the ring around so i left it up to my brake and tyre fitter to get the parts needed. he was saying the swaybar to do it are of an EB falcon. My conversions happening this friday coming so. I kind of justify it that if it helps pull the ute and trailer up quicker/safer and avoids 1 accident to me it will have paid for itself.

[blue terra]

Originally Posted by mattp

Holy ****, those calipers look HUUUGE compared to the AU1's.

Who ever in ford thought that these brakes were substantail should be shot.

[JC]

Originally Posted by blue terra

Who ever in ford thought that these brakes were substantail should be shot.

You mean the AU1 ones, right?

Mattp - no worries mate. You did me a favour, and got one in return (not the chief and adam kind of favour, though). LOL.

[blue terra]

Yep. theyre only half good for slowing.

[loxxr6]

Any chance of getting this as a sticky thread ?

The brake upgrade question is a common one with AU owners.

[Casper]

Originally Posted by loxxr6

Any chance of getting this as a sticky thread ?

The brake upgrade question is a common one with AU owners.

Yup, I think its well worth a sticky!

[AU1XLS]

JC did you need to do anything with master cyl?

[NeishaXR8_347]

Just thought i would point out that as JC said the 16inch rims are fine BUT 15inch will not fit on so you will need to get a 16inch spare. The 15inch wheel i tried was just a steelie and maybe an alloy 15inch might fit depending on the style.
Mines a series 2 and i noticed a differance on the initial Response of the BA setup right away.
I have got EBC greenstuff pads on mine with the BA setup and geez those Greenstuffs are in a leage of their own, well worth the 100 odd.

Shaun

[jimmy_c]

I got a full AU-AUII conversion from our local wreckers this includes everything needed. I mean everything !!! grand total price of 350 dollars. This was a walk in price and we didnt know them from a bar of soap.

Brakes were not rooted either new pads too.

FTG asked 1000 plus freight.

[NeishaXR8_347]

The only thing i hated about the EBC greens is for the first 500 or so KM they squeeeled like pigs and turned the rims and guards black. But this is NORMAL for the first 500kms as says in the InfoBook that came with them.

[JC]

Originally Posted by AU1XLS

JC did you need to do anything with master cyl?

I believe there is a difference between AU1 and AU2/3 master cylinders, but I'm going to stick with the series one for the time being - if required, i will swap it over to series 2 one - they're about $50 from wreckers. I don't expect to have to swap it though.

[genebaby]

Anybody in Canberra or nearby looking for a 16inch steelie, let me know, I have a virtually brand new one available.

[AU1XLS]

Originally Posted by JC

I believe there is a difference between AU1 and AU2/3 master cylinders, but I'm going to stick with the series one for the time being - if required, i will swap it over to series 2 one - they're about $50 from wreckers. I don't expect to have to swap it though.

Thanks, Im in the middle of conversion as well but im fitting BF typhoon brakes on to a series one ute, have all the bits sorted except for the brackets for the rear calipers and I was considering going to a ba/bf master cylinder

[HLC]

woohoo! i got a sticky!!!

anyway, cleaned up my brakes yesterday! they are now in the shed in a container lol.. i gotta sand em back and repaint them. they are currently red lol i want them blue.

and then ill think about fitting them!

[ToxikXR]

stop procrastinating "chief" i mean henri..

[blue terra]

Well today i got my brake upgrade done by unique tyres in seven hills. It has got the BA callipers with slotted rotors. Am still bedding the brakes in but so far a lot better. The test will be when i tow the trailer tomorrow should notice a big difference then.

[HLC]

Originally Posted by blue terra

Well today i got my brake upgrade done by unique tyres in seven hills. It has got the BA callipers with slotted rotors. Am still bedding the brakes in but so far a lot better. The test will be when i tow the trailer tomorrow should notice a big difference then.

how much did they charge for fitting mate?

[blue terra]

$400 but thats because i have the series 1 so they had to do all the changes with it. BTW henri i got 16's and they just fit in.

[HLC]

Originally Posted by blue terra

$400 but thats because i have the series 1 so they had to do all the changes with it. BTW henri i got 16's and they just fit in.

oooooh ok. i might have to give them a ring or something!

[AU1XLS]

Today upgraded AU1 ute rear brakes to BF Typhoon rear 330mm with single piston (apparently same as territory rears)
All bolts up with the exception of having to get a larger dust sheild

[Casper]

Thats a LOT more brake there. Wonder if the IRS will take a similar straight up swap?

[AU1XLS]

I dont see why not

[Casper]

Well, I have a set of BA XR8 rears that I may just put on and see what happens. Then I'll be forced to do something decent to the front brakes, god knows they need it.

[philstoj]

Ill have to keep an eye out for a SH set, i already have the fronts, but find the rear set at $950 too expensive.
Have you done the front aswell? great upgrade for an AU1.