Earthquake Japan

[Professor Farnsworth]

Put it on SKY, they've had the best coverage so far

[charles_wif_xf]

No Foxtel Farnsworth, just ABC 24.

[onfire]

So many conflicting reports between the stations though. Here's the British down playing the impact it will have on Hawaii & the western US coast line, then theres the Americans blowing it right up.

[RiTz]

The latest I just read was waves that hit Hawaii were 48cm.

Any word on whether Fiji got hit yet? My best mate is there with hubby and 2 little girls :(

Im not gonna sleep tonight I reckon.

[kpcart]

the waves came in to hawaii no bigger then most big surf waves. there was no tidal surge, just waves. the tidal surge is what these pacific islands need to be worried about, but it looks like it wont happen to most places. the 200,000 dead we saw in the 2004 indonesian tsunami wont occur again here in japan, as japan isnt built like indonesian, not as many people live near the shore, infact its mostly farmland that will be engulfed with water. even the parts that are settled by houses, the houses are brick houses and much stronger then the houses in indonesia by the sea. we may see about 1000 casualties, but nowhere near the amount of the 2004 indonesia tsunami, thankfully i must say.

[Jason[98.EL]]

Originally Posted by GT

We have one AFF member (that we know about) there on a skiiing holiday. Glen a.k.a. EXR8ED
Have sent him text messages asking to let us know he is safe and well. None of us have had any joy but will now wait and not overload the communication system. Will post here if we get any news.

Regards
Gaela

they have just announced that the after shocks are hitting the ski resorts so hope that they are not to bad and our fellow AFF member is safe

[XR6_661]

Conflicting reports or not and wether the facts are right or not, look at what's going on there...pretty sure we can all see how devestating it is...

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by XR6_661

Conflicting reports or not and wether the facts are right or not, look at what's going on there...pretty sure we can all see how devestating it is...

Exactly right, loss of life is enough

[CJR09]

Originally Posted by Rangas GTP

Technicians are struggling to cool the turbines for the nuclear reactor. All power available has been diverted to drive turbines. If this fails god help us.

by sounds of it reactor is leaking/radioactive steam spreading thoughout facility - radiation levels 1000 times greater than normal in control rooms - evacuated 10K radius now

pray to god they can contain it and get it under control!

[Jim Goose]

The waves in Hawaii were higher then 48cm!
Just watching news this morning showed a lot of coastal areas there which had plenty of water, though it wasnt devestating. 2M was the figure given and not long after those waves hit a 4.8earth quake hit Hawaii as well.

The reactor in Japan is leaking up to 8times the normal acceptable level at this stage... this isnt good.

[Jim Goose]

New cars at a wharf..




Reports now that strong waves have hit California

[Jim Goose]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/california-...ry?id=13112901

The surge smashed boats and wreck docks in the California cities of Santa Cruza and Crescent City. The tsunami was strongest in Crescent City which was smacked with an 8-foot tall wave that destroyed the city's piers and sank boats.

On Hawaii's Big Island waves surged over roads and into lobbies of beachfront hotels.

Nevertheless, President Obama said in a news conference that Washington was "taking this very seriously," and urged people, "if you are told to evacuate, do as you are told."

The president said that the Federal Emergency Management Agency was "fully activated."

[GT]

Originally Posted by Jason[98.EL]

they have just announced that the after shocks are hitting the ski resorts so hope that they are not to bad and our fellow AFF member is safe

Glenn contacted me during the night and he is (quote) "Safe and Well". Will be pleased to see him home again - he is a lovely soul and it has been quiet with him away.

Cheers
Gaela

[TUF_302]

Been hearing reports of a nuclear leek now at one the reactors, hope this is not true

[mik]

after watching the sky news it would be very surprising if the death toll does`nt skyrocket sadly, and there is still a state of emergency at the reactor, US is flying in coolant for the reactor,
its amazeing how mother nature can wipe out what has taken humans years to build in a matter of minutes........... best wishes to all concerned with this disaster.

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by TUF_302

Been hearing reports of a nuclear leek now at one the reactors, hope this is not true

yes its true... last news reports say that 8times the normal amount of radiation has been detected around the reactor.

The generators which pump the coolant arent working....

[Jim Goose]

Ok a 1000times above normal!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...12/3162223.htm

Thousands evacuated amid nuclear leak fears

Updated 2 hours 16 minutes ago
Fukushima Nuclear plant

Radioactive leak fears: The Fukushima nuclear plant (Reuters/Kyodo)

* Related Story: Residents near nuclear plant told to evacuate
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* Related Story: Japan comes to terms with earthquake horror
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The Japanese government has declared an atomic emergency because of the "possibility" of a radioactive leak from a nuclear reactor in the quake disaster zone.

But operators of the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant have warned that radiation could already have leaked.

This morning Japanese prime minister Naoto Kan said thousands of people living within 10 kilometres of the nuclear plant must evacuate.

The amount of radiation reached around 1,000 times the normal level in the No. 1 reactor's control room, the Kyodo news agency reported the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency as saying.

Trade minister Banri Kaieda earlier said authorities were nearing a decision to release radioactive steam from the troubled nuclear reactor in a bid to ease a pressure build-up after its cooling system was damaged by the massive earthquake.

"Pressure has risen in the container of the reactor and we are trying to deal with it, "a spokesman for Tokyo Electric Power, which operates the plant, said.

The government had earlier said no radiation leaks were detected among its reactors after the 8.9-magnitude earthquake struck on Friday, Japan's biggest on record, triggering huge tsunamis.

The plant had shut down after the quake, but a reactor cooling system failure had led to the evacuation instruction, a situation the government said was "under control".

Japan has dispatched around 160 military personnel, sending its chemical corps and an aircraft on a "fact finding mission" to the nuclear plant, Kyodo said.

Prime minister Naoto Kan had earlier said no radiation leaks had been detected from Japan's nuclear power stations after the massive quake struck the country.

The IAEA's Incident and Emergency Centre had said that the four nuclear power plants closest to the quake which occurred near the east coast of Honshu, Japan, had been "safely shut down".

According to the industry ministry, a total of 11 nuclear reactors automatically shut down at the Onagawa plant, the Fukushima No. 1 and No. 2 plants and the Tokai No. 2 plant after the strongest recorded earthquake in the country's history.

A fire that broke out in the turbine building of Onagawa nuclear plant in Miyagi Prefecture had been extinguished, the government said. Operator Tohoku Electric Power said there were no indications of a radioactive leak.

Miyagi prefecture was one of the areas worst hit by the tsunami.

Millions of households were without power in north-eastern Japan, according to Tohoku Electric.

Japan - located on the Pacific Ring of Fire, where continental plates meet and create a string of volcanoes and seismic hot spots - records 20 per cent of the world's major earthquakes.

As an industrial powerhouse nation poor in energy resources, Japan also draws about 30 per cent of its total power from its 53 nuclear plants.

[DJM83]

Thanks for the links Goose, the outlook seems pretty grim

[Jim Goose]

On a side note, is Andrew O'keefe the worst "presenter" on TV???
Am I alone in thinking this guy is the most incincere twat?
Watching again today on Sunrise discussing the Japan tsunami his attitude appears to be demeaning and stupid (as it always is).
Even during the floods of Brisbane and cyclone Yasi...

[ThaFlash]

the law of devine oneness

[CJR09]

source - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...-live-coverage


The latest from the Fukushima reactors is that the government is now saying that there has been "no radioactive leak so far" at the nuclear plants. That seems to contradict an earlier statements by Japan's nuclear safety agency and the Tokyo Electric Power company.

[mik]

CJR09 if i`m not mistaken the last report in that article was 1.13 am ?

[bungarra]

Originally Posted by CJR09

source - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...-live-coverage


The latest from the Fukushima reactors is that the government is now saying that there has been "no radioactive leak so far" at the nuclear plants. That seems to contradict an earlier statements by Japan's nuclear safety agency and the Tokyo Electric Power company.

A radioctive leak is classified as release to outside environmental areas. Japanes plants have a recirc loop for air for these types of small releases. The main worry would be nuclear fuel leak not radioctive gas. Radioactive gas breaks up in atmosphere rather quickly, nuclear fuel leaks contaminate anything and everything it touches. Australia has higher back ground radiation levels due to the granite in the ground in lots of areas.

Even if the reactor went to fail point as they can keep coolant levels hig enough the immediate danger would be to the local population unlike Chernobyl which was a dry melt down that became a China Syndrome event, where there is zero cooling and the core melts the reactor and hits ground water causing an explosion.

Hopefully it is only a gas vent leak which is at least fixable and minimal risk to the majority, but I prayer for those that have to repair it.

[CJR09]

Originally Posted by mik

CJR09 if i`m not mistaken the last report in that article was 1.13 am ?

yes thats GMT - Japan time = GMT + 9hrs

so that report @ 10.13am Japan time

[pulpist]

172 earthquakes near the epicentre of the 8.9 since the 10th of March.
Average magnitude of 5.4.
That is a lot of energy release.

You can see it's even set off magnitude 6.2 and 5.5 earthquakes on the mainland.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...e10/140_40.php

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...140_40_eqs.php

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

On a side note, is Andrew O'keefe the worst "presenter" on TV???

Hey, it could be worse.....

Bloody Kochie could be over there!

[chrisfpv]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Hey, it could be worse.....

Bloody Kochie could be over there!

Or even worse, Grant Denyer

[buggerlugs]

Japan's No 1 Nuclear reactor could be in meltdown...........

[Road Games]

Originally Posted by buggerlugs

Japan's No 1 Nuclear reactor could be in meltdown...........

Yep, they are in for a world of hurt... but in a few hours someone will come on here and probably say unsubstantiated rumours...

I simply qouted what I heard last night for instance...

Nothing more nothing less...

Some people need to look at the BIGGER picture surrounding the planet NOT just someone who appears to be wrong on the internet FFS !

[buggerlugs]

Some of the video footage is staggering...........